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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#761 » by Walton1one » Wed May 21, 2025 5:06 pm

No Ceilings scout on Cedric Coward

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/cedric-coward-the-noise-is-valid?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=536361&post_id=163416357&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1f5gb9&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Remember the way Shaedon Sharpe skyrocketed up boards? There were questions about redshirting, then it felt almost surprising that Sharpe would be eligible to enter the 2022 NBA Draft. Sharpe ultimately entered the pre-draft process while maintaining his college eligibility—he then stayed in the draft, and was selected by the Portland Trail Blazers with the seventh pick. That’s not the typical trajectory for a Top 10 pick, but the raw talent Shaedon possessed was enough for teams to feel comfortable with taking him high in the draft without any production at the college level


This year, teams will have to wrestle with this question: “How high is too high for Cedric Coward?”


After playing in just six games, Cedric suffered a torn labrum. That injury required surgery, with a recovery window of 4-6 months. That effectively ended his lone season with Washington State. Despite having a low Minutes Percentage, Coward graded out favorably in essentially every field. It might be a bit optimistic to assume that if he played the rest of the year the way that he began it that he would have continued to produce the way that he did.


When compared Kon—who is getting buzz in the Top 3-to-7 range among most reputable draft outlets—Cedric gives him a run for his money in a number of areas. Coward is almost +3 in Offensive Rebound Percentage. He is almost +7 in Defensive Rebounding Percentage. He is around +16 in Free Throw Rate. He is almost +5 in Block Percentage.

Even in the areas where Kon is graded higher than Cedric, it is relatively marginal. What stands out to me is that Cedric has a higher Assist Percentage than Kon, though he hasn’t been used in as much of an on-ball role. Also, Coward’s Effective Field Goal Percentage and True Shooting Percentage are in line with those of hyper-efficient big men, though he took 8.5 three-point attempts per 100 possessions.


This season, Cedric Coward ranked in the 97th percentile in Points Per Possession (PPP) offensively on 1.161 PPP. This came on only 87 credited offensive possessions. What makes that grade so interesting, is that Coward graded out in the 96th percentile at Eastern Washington—scoring 1.140 PPP. That was on 429 credited possessions. Sure, the conference at Eastern Washington wasn’t the best, but he did score 16 points against Ole Miss, 21 points against Cincinnati, and 14 points against Stanford that season. Even going back to his first season with Eastern Washington, Cedric ranked in the 99th percentile on 204 credited possessions.

In other words, Coward has been a very good and efficient scorer his entire time playing Division I basketball.


Cedric does not operate as a lead initiator at this point in his career, and one could argue that he was working his way into being comfortable in that role prior to injury. Despite the perceived weakness, Coward showed solid improvement in this decision-making, albeit in a small sample size...The trajectory in his playmaking was going wonderfully, with his Assist-to-Turnover (ATO) ratio improving from 0.78 to 1.41. The improvement in this regard really helped to solidify the connective role he could play early on in the NBA.


What makes Cedric such an intriguing project isn’t just him being a good floor spacer with some upside to become better on that end. Coward has utilized his 7’2”+ wingspan and 8’10” standing reach to be an impactful defender. Cedric Coward possesses quick hands to go along with his length.

A few things worth noting right about now. 1) Cedric tied for the ninth-largest hands at the NBA Draft Combine—tying with big men like Danny Wolf, Asa Newell, Ryan Kalkbrenner, Johni Broome, Yaxel Lendeborg, and Alex Condon. 2) Coward posted a Steal Percentage of 1.4—and recorded Steal Percentages of 1.6 and 2.1 the previous two years, respectively...Cedric’s 38.5-inch max vertical leap graded out ninth in the NBA Draft Combine—tying with consensus Top 5 pick V.J. Edgecombe. In terms of block history, Cedric recorded a Block Percentage of 5.3. This actually topped his previous two seasons of 3.7 and 3.2 (both still very good), respectively.


So, what do we do with all of this information? I’m conflicted.


Cedric Coward has shown a continuous upward trajectory that consists of increased production with increased levels of competition. His player type is one of the most coveted in the NBA. There are concerns surrounding his handle, but I feel they are overstated. Even if Coward isn’t an on-ball maestro yet, he isn’t the type of person you would bet against developing a good enough one. Every NBA team would love to have a 6’6” wing that has good size and athleticism, who connects on the majority of their jumpers, and can defend at a good clip. Literally every team.


I have Cedric 12th on my board right now, in a tier that extends up to #8. This isn’t just catching up with the crowd. This is film-based, intel-based analysis on a player who had a fair amount of questions centered on whether or not he would want to return to college.

With the noise surrounding Cedric Coward’s draft stock, the draft community is coming to grips with the idea that he will likely be drafted. We’re having to dive into his tape and the intel on him again, trying to measure how valid the noise might be. There are no certainties when it comes to evaluation, but Coward is as valid a lottery-level talent as there is in this class.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#762 » by oldfishermen » Wed May 21, 2025 11:24 pm

Walton1one wrote:No Ceilings scout on Cedric Coward

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/cedric-coward-the-noise-is-valid?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=536361&post_id=163416357&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1f5gb9&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Remember the way Shaedon Sharpe skyrocketed up boards? There were questions about redshirting, then it felt almost surprising that Sharpe would be eligible to enter the 2022 NBA Draft. Sharpe ultimately entered the pre-draft process while maintaining his college eligibility—he then stayed in the draft, and was selected by the Portland Trail Blazers with the seventh pick. That’s not the typical trajectory for a Top 10 pick, but the raw talent Shaedon possessed was enough for teams to feel comfortable with taking him high in the draft without any production at the college level


This year, teams will have to wrestle with this question: “How high is too high for Cedric Coward?”


After playing in just six games, Cedric suffered a torn labrum. That injury required surgery, with a recovery window of 4-6 months. That effectively ended his lone season with Washington State. Despite having a low Minutes Percentage, Coward graded out favorably in essentially every field. It might be a bit optimistic to assume that if he played the rest of the year the way that he began it that he would have continued to produce the way that he did.


When compared Kon—who is getting buzz in the Top 3-to-7 range among most reputable draft outlets—Cedric gives him a run for his money in a number of areas. Coward is almost +3 in Offensive Rebound Percentage. He is almost +7 in Defensive Rebounding Percentage. He is around +16 in Free Throw Rate. He is almost +5 in Block Percentage.

Even in the areas where Kon is graded higher than Cedric, it is relatively marginal. What stands out to me is that Cedric has a higher Assist Percentage than Kon, though he hasn’t been used in as much of an on-ball role. Also, Coward’s Effective Field Goal Percentage and True Shooting Percentage are in line with those of hyper-efficient big men, though he took 8.5 three-point attempts per 100 possessions.


This season, Cedric Coward ranked in the 97th percentile in Points Per Possession (PPP) offensively on 1.161 PPP. This came on only 87 credited offensive possessions. What makes that grade so interesting, is that Coward graded out in the 96th percentile at Eastern Washington—scoring 1.140 PPP. That was on 429 credited possessions. Sure, the conference at Eastern Washington wasn’t the best, but he did score 16 points against Ole Miss, 21 points against Cincinnati, and 14 points against Stanford that season. Even going back to his first season with Eastern Washington, Cedric ranked in the 99th percentile on 204 credited possessions.

In other words, Coward has been a very good and efficient scorer his entire time playing Division I basketball.


Cedric does not operate as a lead initiator at this point in his career, and one could argue that he was working his way into being comfortable in that role prior to injury. Despite the perceived weakness, Coward showed solid improvement in this decision-making, albeit in a small sample size...The trajectory in his playmaking was going wonderfully, with his Assist-to-Turnover (ATO) ratio improving from 0.78 to 1.41. The improvement in this regard really helped to solidify the connective role he could play early on in the NBA.


What makes Cedric such an intriguing project isn’t just him being a good floor spacer with some upside to become better on that end. Coward has utilized his 7’2”+ wingspan and 8’10” standing reach to be an impactful defender. Cedric Coward possesses quick hands to go along with his length.

A few things worth noting right about now. 1) Cedric tied for the ninth-largest hands at the NBA Draft Combine—tying with big men like Danny Wolf, Asa Newell, Ryan Kalkbrenner, Johni Broome, Yaxel Lendeborg, and Alex Condon. 2) Coward posted a Steal Percentage of 1.4—and recorded Steal Percentages of 1.6 and 2.1 the previous two years, respectively...Cedric’s 38.5-inch max vertical leap graded out ninth in the NBA Draft Combine—tying with consensus Top 5 pick V.J. Edgecombe. In terms of block history, Cedric recorded a Block Percentage of 5.3. This actually topped his previous two seasons of 3.7 and 3.2 (both still very good), respectively.


So, what do we do with all of this information? I’m conflicted.


Cedric Coward has shown a continuous upward trajectory that consists of increased production with increased levels of competition. His player type is one of the most coveted in the NBA. There are concerns surrounding his handle, but I feel they are overstated. Even if Coward isn’t an on-ball maestro yet, he isn’t the type of person you would bet against developing a good enough one. Every NBA team would love to have a 6’6” wing that has good size and athleticism, who connects on the majority of their jumpers, and can defend at a good clip. Literally every team.


I have Cedric 12th on my board right now, in a tier that extends up to #8. This isn’t just catching up with the crowd. This is film-based, intel-based analysis on a player who had a fair amount of questions centered on whether or not he would want to return to college.

With the noise surrounding Cedric Coward’s draft stock, the draft community is coming to grips with the idea that he will likely be drafted. We’re having to dive into his tape and the intel on him again, trying to measure how valid the noise might be. There are no certainties when it comes to evaluation, but Coward is as valid a lottery-level talent as there is in this class.


If the Blazers keep #11, Cedric Coward is my pick.

Cedric makes a consistent positive impact on O, and he is a good defender.

Cedric's floor is a high level role player. His ceiling ?, but he appears to be very coachable.

I like good 2 way players like Cedric, that also bring an elite skill (shooting).
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#763 » by dckingsfan » Wed May 21, 2025 11:32 pm

oldfishermen wrote:If the Blazers keep #11, Cedric Coward is my pick.

Cedric makes a consistent positive impact on O, and he is a good defender.

Cedric's floor is a high level role player. His ceiling ?, but he appears to be very coachable.

I like good 2 way players like Cedric, that also bring an elite skill (shooting).

Over Egor for sure (just don't think he is all that). So, I would hope that Cedric would jump him in the Blazers FO collective mindset...
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Post#764 » by Case2012 » Thu May 22, 2025 1:06 am

Yeah, I think I’m leaning Coward at 11 too. One of the things I really like about his game is his background — he played a lot of 4 early on, so his post game and footwork are well ahead of most guards, and he rebounds like a forward. That versatility stands out.

My hope is we can land a second pick and grab one of Nique, Wolf, Yaxel, WCJ, or Fleming. Out of that group, Yaxel is the one I just can’t pass on. His size, wingspan, and skill set are rare. He and Coward both have serious defensive potential, they can rebound, they see the floor, and they’ve got the tools to guard and play across 2–3 positions.

And when you start picturing the lineups? It’s wild. Credit to Schmitz — this team is quietly becoming one of the longest rosters in the league. If we add even a couple of those guys, the defensive potential is ridiculous.

Just look at this possible lineup as one example (not starting):

Deni – 6'10", 6'10"+ wingspan

Cedric (Coward) – 6'6", 7'2" wingspan

Camara – 6'7", 7'1" wingspan

Yaxel Lendeborg – 6'9", 7'4" wingspan

Clingan – 7'2", 7'7" wingspan

And if the only major trade is Simons for Isaac and pick 16? That’s another 6'11" guy with a 7'2" wingspan. Add to that:

Robert Williams – 7'6" wingspan

Thybulle – 7'2"

Grant – 7'3"

Rupert – 7'3"

Ayton – 7'5"

It’s not just theoretical length either, these are guys who can switch, rotate, and defend in space. If we commit to this identity and keep drafting players who fit this mold, we’re going to be a nightmare to score on. Just need to get the playmaking and shooting around them so we don't become the Magic of the west but defensively, we’re building something serious.
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Post#765 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu May 22, 2025 1:53 am

I could live with Coward at 11. I would prefer to get 16 via ORL and take him there though.

I like the hedge Coward brings. He has the athleticism and quick feet to play SG should Sharpe not take the next step. He also is basically the exact same size as Kawhi Leonard was coming out - who no one has ever argued was too small to play SF. That makes it interesting - if Sharpe takes some developmental steps you could be looking at Coward at SF - and while I love Camara, Cedric has a MUCH more dynamic offensive ceiling. (This doesnt mean that Camara cant be in our long term plans - it makes the future even brighter w/ Camara as an elite 6th man who can come in and defend 1-4, basically making him playable with any combination of starters). Like, the idea outcome to me would be this -

G - Scoot Henderson / Egor Demin (16)
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Egor Demin (16)
F - Cedric Coward (11) / Toumani Camara
F - Deni Avdija / Toumani Camara
C - Donovan Clingan / [Smaller, more nimble compliment backup big man X]

*** 16 comes over in a ORL trade ***

That is INSANE size and versatility. Egor is slotted as a G but he probably plays defense against the opposing teams SF or even PF due to footspeed issues, but here we have Camara who can guard up to PG or SG allowing Demin to really not get picked on.

My mind changes daily but that above roster is pretty freaking unique. Not sure who the backup C would be but the 8 man playoff rotation would be sick -

G - Scoot Henderson (34) / Egor Demin (16)
G - Shadeon Sharpe (36) / Egor Demin (14)
F - Cedric Coward (34) / Toumani Camara (16)
F - Deni Avdija (36) / Toumani Camara (14)
C - Donovan Clingan (30) / [Smaller, more nimble compliment backup big man X] (18)
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Post#766 » by dckingsfan » Thu May 22, 2025 3:27 am

Double... :wink:
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Post#767 » by dckingsfan » Thu May 22, 2025 3:28 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:I could live with Coward at 11. I would prefer to get 16 via ORL and take him there though.

I like the hedge Coward brings. He has the athleticism and quick feet to play SG should Sharpe not take the next step. He also is basically the exact same size as Kawhi Leonard was coming out - who no one has ever argued was too small to play SF. That makes it interesting - if Sharpe takes some developmental steps you could be looking at Coward at SF - and while I love Camara, Cedric has a MUCH more dynamic offensive ceiling. (This doesnt mean that Camara cant be in our long term plans - it makes the future even brighter w/ Camara as an elite 6th man who can come in and defend 1-4, basically making him playable with any combination of starters). Like, the idea outcome to me would be this -

G - Scoot Henderson / Egor Demin (16)
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Egor Demin (16)
F - Cedric Coward (11) / Toumani Camara
F - Deni Avdija / Toumani Camara
C - Donovan Clingan / [Smaller, more nimble compliment backup big man X]

*** 16 comes over in a ORL trade ***

That is INSANE size and versatility. Egor is slotted as a G but he probably plays defense against the opposing teams SF or even PF due to footspeed issues, but here we have Camara who can guard up to PG or SG allowing Demin to really not get picked on.

My mind changes daily but that above roster is pretty freaking unique. Not sure who the backup C would be but the 8 man playoff rotation would be sick -

G - Scoot Henderson (34) / Egor Demin (16)
G - Shadeon Sharpe (36) / Egor Demin (14)
F - Cedric Coward (34) / Toumani Camara (16)
F - Deni Avdija (36) / Toumani Camara (14)
C - Donovan Clingan (30) / [Smaller, more nimble compliment backup big man X] (18)

Yeah - just not sold on Demin at all. But - I have been wrong before...

And I definitely start Camara over Sharpe.
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Post#768 » by Butter » Thu May 22, 2025 9:44 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:I could live with Coward at 11. I would prefer to get 16 via ORL and take him there though.

I like the hedge Coward brings. He has the athleticism and quick feet to play SG should Sharpe not take the next step. He also is basically the exact same size as Kawhi Leonard was coming out - who no one has ever argued was too small to play SF. That makes it interesting - if Sharpe takes some developmental steps you could be looking at Coward at SF - and while I love Camara, Cedric has a MUCH more dynamic offensive ceiling. (This doesnt mean that Camara cant be in our long term plans - it makes the future even brighter w/ Camara as an elite 6th man who can come in and defend 1-4, basically making him playable with any combination of starters). Like, the idea outcome to me would be this -

G - Scoot Henderson / Egor Demin (16)
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Egor Demin (16)
F - Cedric Coward (11) / Toumani Camara
F - Deni Avdija / Toumani Camara
C - Donovan Clingan / [Smaller, more nimble compliment backup big man X]

*** 16 comes over in a ORL trade ***

That is INSANE size and versatility. Egor is slotted as a G but he probably plays defense against the opposing teams SF or even PF due to footspeed issues, but here we have Camara who can guard up to PG or SG allowing Demin to really not get picked on.

My mind changes daily but that above roster is pretty freaking unique. Not sure who the backup C would be but the 8 man playoff rotation would be sick -

G - Scoot Henderson (34) / Egor Demin (16)
G - Shadeon Sharpe (36) / Egor Demin (14)
F - Cedric Coward (34) / Toumani Camara (16)
F - Deni Avdija (36) / Toumani Camara (14)
C - Donovan Clingan (30) / [Smaller, more nimble compliment backup big man X] (18)


I cannot see any scenario where a rookie starts over Tou.

I know Egor is getting a lot of love right now, but I'm also interested in targeting the "Smaller, more nimble compliment backup big man X" you suggested at 11. Whatever the Blazers do, they need to improve their perimeter shooting at 11.

In the end, it really comes down to BPA.
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Post#769 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu May 22, 2025 2:47 pm

Butter wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:I could live with Coward at 11. I would prefer to get 16 via ORL and take him there though.

I like the hedge Coward brings. He has the athleticism and quick feet to play SG should Sharpe not take the next step. He also is basically the exact same size as Kawhi Leonard was coming out - who no one has ever argued was too small to play SF. That makes it interesting - if Sharpe takes some developmental steps you could be looking at Coward at SF - and while I love Camara, Cedric has a MUCH more dynamic offensive ceiling. (This doesnt mean that Camara cant be in our long term plans - it makes the future even brighter w/ Camara as an elite 6th man who can come in and defend 1-4, basically making him playable with any combination of starters). Like, the idea outcome to me would be this -

G - Scoot Henderson / Egor Demin (16)
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Egor Demin (16)
F - Cedric Coward (11) / Toumani Camara
F - Deni Avdija / Toumani Camara
C - Donovan Clingan / [Smaller, more nimble compliment backup big man X]

*** 16 comes over in a ORL trade ***

That is INSANE size and versatility. Egor is slotted as a G but he probably plays defense against the opposing teams SF or even PF due to footspeed issues, but here we have Camara who can guard up to PG or SG allowing Demin to really not get picked on.

My mind changes daily but that above roster is pretty freaking unique. Not sure who the backup C would be but the 8 man playoff rotation would be sick -

G - Scoot Henderson (34) / Egor Demin (16)
G - Shadeon Sharpe (36) / Egor Demin (14)
F - Cedric Coward (34) / Toumani Camara (16)
F - Deni Avdija (36) / Toumani Camara (14)
C - Donovan Clingan (30) / [Smaller, more nimble compliment backup big man X] (18)


I cannot see any scenario where a rookie starts over Tou.

I know Egor is getting a lot of love right now, but I'm also interested in targeting the "Smaller, more nimble compliment backup big man X" you suggested at 11. Whatever the Blazers do, they need to improve their perimeter shooting at 11.

In the end, it really comes down to BPA.


FWIW - I wasn’t saying Coward starts over Tou immediately. That rotation would be a year or two out.

But I do think ideally Tou becomes our Caruso off the bench and we find a more dynamic offensive player to start at the 2nd forward spot (One who also can play some defense - hence Coward as the projection in this scenario). Love Tou but he is 25 and end of the day ‘just’ a high level role player.
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Post#770 » by Chanse503 » Thu May 22, 2025 3:56 pm

Mentioned on Locked On podcast:

Blazers send #11 and Rupert
Blazers get GG Jackson x2 2025 2nds

Grizzles send GG Jackson x2 2025 2nds
Grizzled get #11 and Rupert

GG likely would be top eight pick in this draft and fits needs and timeline.
Package 2nds and move up- loads of value will be there :Drake Powell, Maxime Raynaud, Ben Saraf, Danny Wolf
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Post#771 » by tester551 » Thu May 22, 2025 4:09 pm

Chanse503 wrote:Mentioned on Locked On podcast:

Blazers send #11 and Rupert
Blazers get GG Jackson x2 2025 2nds

Grizzles send GG Jackson x2 2025 2nds
Grizzled get #11 and Rupert

GG likely would be top eight pick in this draft and fits needs and timeline.
Package 2nds and move up- loads of value will be there :Drake Powell, Maxime Raynaud, Ben Saraf

Terrible.
GG was a mid-second round pick. He has shown that he can be an NBA player, but I don't see him as being anywhere near worth #11.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#772 » by jhern87 » Thu May 22, 2025 4:31 pm

Great aggregate of info in this thread. Thank you to everyone contributing.

You know the staff is auditioning to keep their jobs with new ownership coming and I’m excited to see what they do. Like many of you, really hope we can make a move to get another first round pick.
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Post#773 » by oldfishermen » Thu May 22, 2025 4:43 pm

The mock drafts confuse me. I still firmly believe the players in the FR top third of the mock drafts are over-valued, and over-hyped.

I believe the real value in this draft is the FR middle third. And hope we can pick up more picks in this range.

There maybe future all-stars in rhe FR mid range. Controlling as many good role players as possible maybe our best option to build a contender. In several seasons, we have a better chance of landing an all-star by making a consolidation trade with proven players on rookie contracts.
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Post#774 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu May 22, 2025 5:23 pm

Chanse503 wrote:Mentioned on Locked On podcast:

Blazers send #11 and Rupert
Blazers get GG Jackson x2 2025 2nds

Grizzles send GG Jackson x2 2025 2nds
Grizzled get #11 and Rupert

GG likely would be top eight pick in this draft and fits needs and timeline.
Package 2nds and move up- loads of value will be there :Drake Powell, Maxime Raynaud, Ben Saraf, Danny Wolf


GG put up empty stats on a terrible, tanking MEM team. He has been a net negative on the court his 2 seasons in the league -

23/24 OnCourt Per 100 -8.2 / On-Off Per 100 -1.4
24/25 OnCourt Per 100 -6.9 / On-Off Per 100 -13.3

Even his 'good' year as a rookie wasnt actually good - he posted stats many guys could given his usage -

23/24 WS48 0.48 / OBPM -0.2 / DBPM -1.8 / ORTg 107 / DRTg 117

He is young and looks the part but he has shown basically nothing that indicates he would contribute to winning basketball.
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Post#775 » by Jsun947 » Thu May 22, 2025 6:55 pm

I’m on the Bryant, Coward, Flemming train and I’d love to find a way to get all three if we could while moving off of Simons, Grant, Ayton, Thybulle, and Williams.

Bryant’s draft floor seems to be around where we are but Flemming and Coward are all over the damn place.

I have a feeling the Blazers aren’t going to want to get worse or dramatically younger while trying to sell the team though. I’d be a bit shocked if Grant & Simons aren’t on the team next year
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Post#776 » by Case2012 » Thu May 22, 2025 7:21 pm

I like that line up BB but i view SS as a 6th man. I'd rather trade him tbh because i dont think he's worth whatever his next deal is going to be so CC would be better at the 2 next to Tou.I think you draft CC to hedge against SS and trade him if the contract demands are crazy.
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Post#777 » by zzaj » Thu May 22, 2025 7:48 pm

Got done with my overdue Queen deepdive, and I'm pretty out on him...

He's incredibly skilled with the ball in his hands, and has beautiful touch. But I just don't see a world where he fits on the Blazers.

For those that are thinking of him as a PF next to Clingan, consider this:

Queen's strength is a playstyle very similar to the role that Jerami Grant likes to play (attacking off the dribble in the mid-range) and the role that got taken away from him last season. What happened when that role was taken away from Grant? He floundered.

Based on what the Blazers have implemented and prioritized in their offense, attacking in the midrange off the dribble has been largely phased out.

Now is Queen a better rebounder than Grant? Unequivocally, yes. However, Grant is a far superior defender, overall. And also a much better 3pt shooter.

Long story longer--If Grant in his typical role isn't a fit on the Blazers I see no role for Queen to flourish.

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As an aside on Grant--he's not going anywhere. Let's truly hope that he embraces his new 3&D bench role and is able to show the league that he has value in that capacity. Maybe after next year if he's able to put up great 3pt shooting and prioritize his defensive impact he can have a bit of value in the league again.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#778 » by Jsun947 » Thu May 22, 2025 9:34 pm

zzaj wrote:Got done with my overdue Queen deepdive, and I'm pretty out on him...

He's incredibly skilled with the ball in his hands, and has beautiful touch. But I just don't see a world where he fits on the Blazers.

For those that are thinking of him as a PF next to Clingan, consider this:

Queen's strength is a playstyle very similar to the role that Jerami Grant likes to play (attacking off the dribble in the mid-range) and the role that got taken away from him last season. What happened when that role was taken away from Grant? He floundered.

Based on what the Blazers have implemented and prioritized in their offense, attacking in the midrange off the dribble has been largely phased out.

Now is Queen a better rebounder than Grant? Unequivocally, yes. However, Grant is a far superior defender, overall. And also a much better 3pt shooter.

Long story longer--If Grant in his typical role isn't a fit on the Blazers I see no role for Queen to flourish.

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As an aside on Grant--he's not going anywhere. Let's truly hope that he embraces his new 3&D bench role and is able to show the league that he has value in that capacity. Maybe after next year if he's able to put up great 3pt shooting and prioritize his defensive impact he can have a bit of value in the league again.


Would Miami be interested in a deal revolving around Grant and Rozier or Robinson? Denver and Porter Jr? Or my favorite, the Lakers and some combo of Vincent/Rui/DFS/Vanderbuilt/Kleber?

I think he could be traded if we wanted to
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#779 » by Butter » Thu May 22, 2025 9:53 pm

Chanse503 wrote:Mentioned on Locked On podcast:

Blazers send #11 and Rupert
Blazers get GG Jackson x2 2025 2nds

Grizzles send GG Jackson x2 2025 2nds
Grizzled get #11 and Rupert

GG likely would be top eight pick in this draft and fits needs and timeline.
Package 2nds and move up- loads of value will be there :Drake Powell, Maxime Raynaud, Ben Saraf, Danny Wolf


The other idea they floated on Locked On Blazers was trading down for 2x FRPs

OKC: 15 & 24
ORL: 16 & 25
BRK: 19 & 26
Rip City, baby!!!!
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#780 » by tester551 » Thu May 22, 2025 10:45 pm

Butter wrote:
Chanse503 wrote:Mentioned on Locked On podcast:

Blazers send #11 and Rupert
Blazers get GG Jackson x2 2025 2nds

Grizzles send GG Jackson x2 2025 2nds
Grizzled get #11 and Rupert

GG likely would be top eight pick in this draft and fits needs and timeline.
Package 2nds and move up- loads of value will be there :Drake Powell, Maxime Raynaud, Ben Saraf, Danny Wolf


The other idea they floated on Locked On Blazers was trading down for 2x FRPs

OKC: 15 & 24
ORL: 16 & 25
BRK: 19 & 26

If Essenge is off the board, I would totally do a trade down. Nets version would need to include more value (19+26+27)

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