2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2

[marson]

3:03 - 4th 1v1 against Bitadse in the paint, and instead of going for the easy drive, he pulls a fadeaway jumper.

1:58 - 4th quarter, Bam has Bitadse all alone and Crotty's literally yelling, "Just go at him, Bam! off the dribble" So what does Bam do? Passes it to Herro, who proceeds to launch a brick.

A couple of key moments in crunch time when we had a clear mismatch... and somehow still couldn’t capitalize. Classic.

[VaDe255]

Herro is a demonstation of why not to give up on young talent, JJJ has my full support to keep pushin'

I’d have to disagree with this comparison. Herro is an excellent 3p shooter, able to knock down shots both off the dribble and off the catch, which is huge in today’s NBA. He’s also a solid shot creator in isolation, able to generate offense in tight spots, and his mid-range game is super polished (he might lean on it more again in the future). On top of that, he can get to the rim and create on drives. This was always there, just at different frequencies. He improved choosing better frequencies and playing off the ball.

JJJ, on the other hand, has a much more limited offensive game. As a wing in today’s NBA, not having a reliable 3p shot is a major issue. In a league that’s all about floor spacing and versatility, wings without a consistent perimeter shot don’t usually see big minutes. JJJ just doesn’t have the same offensive versatility as Herro and leans more on physical tools and hustle plays than actual skill, he’s already playing the “old man game.” Without a dependable outside shot (or jump shot of any kind), it’s tough for him to really thrive in today’s pace-and-space style, where spacing and dynamic scoring are everything for wings.

I'd move off him asap, while you can still maybe get a FRP for him, he isn't helping them win games right now and his ceiling looks limited to a short minutes guy off the bench.

[al bondiga]

Please Posters, you are part of the problem.
And not the solution.... I don't claim to have answers but it is plain and simple... It is the basics... spo Is tired or confused... that is Probably why the team is so disorganized and low on morale

Yes, the players could be a lot better, but they also could be a lot worse...There are thousands of possibilities, trades, Positions, salaries, etc,etc

but there's only one front office And only one coach.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

3:03 - 4th 1v1 against Bitadse in the paint, and instead of going for the easy drive, he pulls a fadeaway jumper.

1:58 - 4th quarter, Bam has Bitadse all alone and Crotty's literally yelling, "Just go at him, Bam! off the dribble" So what does Bam do? Passes it to Herro, who proceeds to launch a brick.

A couple of key moments in crunch time when we had a clear mismatch... and somehow still couldn’t capitalize. Classic.

Ok so he wasn’t dominated, there were just 2 instances you thought he should’ve scored and didn’t. He shot one of the times but it wasn’t the type of shot you wanted, the other time he went to our 1st scoring option and it didn’t work out. Sure, we scored 8 points in the 4th quarter we can go back and over analyze every single play, it was probably the worst quarter I’ve ever seen as a Heat fan

[greg4012]

If he were on the Wizards the forum would be busting a nut at the thought of trying to get him to Miami but I agree, free Bam and get him to a legit team that he can maximize and win with

Stop feeding into this Bammy. Bam is not going anywhere.

While I agree that Bam isn’t going anywhere, this notion that Bam will be “freed” if he goes elsewhere is delusional, when our whole system has been built to cater to him, both to maximize his strengths and cover his weaknesses.

Crazy how the "system" that is presumably built to cater to Bam on offense is one that results in Miami not having a single player among the top 40 assist leaders in the NBA (there are 30 teams).

There are only 2 teams in the NBA with their assist leader averaging less apg than Miami--Portland and Minnesota.

You would think that an offense built to "cater to" their center would put more emphasis on having the guards/perimeter players create open looks for the center. But, Miami's roster personnel has been deficient in perimeter creators to run an offense and create looks for others. The result is Bam having only 59% of his FGA assisted. While every other top big man is in the 60s or 70s (Jokic 70% assisted; Embiid 67% assisted; Wemby 70% assisted; Towns 70% assisted; Sabonis 68% assisted; AD 62% assisted).

[greg4012]

Where is this narrative coming from that Goga dominated Bam in their matchup and Bam couldn’t stop him while Goga was locking him down on the other end?

Bam shot 75% when defended by Goga last night, Goga had 2 points on 1 shot attempt against Bam.

You need to talk to Spo about having Dru Terry etc. on opposing centers because he likes to run Bam at the top from time to time (not near as much as you all are trying to make it seem to appease Bams lack of size lol he runs far more drop now than ever but I know 95% of the forum doesn’t even understand wtf that means)

So many seem to struggle with the idea that a team game has complex dynamics that result in issues and they need to find one scapegoat to focus their frustrations on to emote.

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Stop feeding into this Bammy. Bam is not going anywhere.

While I agree that Bam isn’t going anywhere, this notion that Bam will be “freed” if he goes elsewhere is delusional, when our whole system has been built to cater to him, both to maximize his strengths and cover his weaknesses.

Crazy how the "system" that is presumably built to cater to Bam on offense is one that results in Miami not having a single player among the top 40 assist leaders in the NBA (there are 30 teams).

There are only 2 teams in the NBA with their assist leader averaging less apg than Miami--Portland and Minnesota.

You would think that an offense built to "cater to" their center would put more emphasis on having the guards/perimeter players create open looks for the center. But, Miami's roster personnel has been deficient in perimeter creators to run an offense and create looks for others. The result is Bam having only 59% of his FGA assisted. While every other top big man is in the 60s or 70s (Jokic 70% assisted; Embiid 67% assisted; Wemby 70% assisted; Towns 70% assisted; Sabonis 68% assisted; AD 62% assisted).

I brought that point up a couple months ago as this has been an ongoing issue. In what world does it make sense to make Bam go get his own bucket at the same rate or even higher rate than the best player in the world (Jokic) or the most dominant player in the world (Embiid)? Thats an insane statistic and I had no clue the gap had jumped up that much this season.

These guys just simply don’t understand that you have to make a concerted effort to get you bigs involved (not just Bam, every center) and you need to run actions for them to score and find them in the spots where they’re most comfortable. When we want Bam to score we just throw him the ball and tell him to iso, that’s not good/consistent offense for majority of the players in the league. Thats why it eats me up when these guys miss simple lobs and things like that. That can help build a rhythm and confidence which may help when he is put in those isolation situations.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Where is this narrative coming from that Goga dominated Bam in their matchup and Bam couldn’t stop him while Goga was locking him down on the other end?

Bam shot 75% when defended by Goga last night, Goga had 2 points on 1 shot attempt against Bam.

You need to talk to Spo about having Dru Terry etc. on opposing centers because he likes to run Bam at the top from time to time (not near as much as you all are trying to make it seem to appease Bams lack of size lol he runs far more drop now than ever but I know 95% of the forum doesn’t even understand wtf that means)

So many seem to struggle with the idea that a team game has complex dynamics that result in issues and they need to find one scapegoat to focus their frustrations on to emote.

You would think he scored 6 points on 17 shots the way people are talking here and not 24 (they credited Dru with 1 of his free throws in the 1st quarter for some reason) on 15 with 2 of them being grenade 3s.

Could he have been better? Sure, the we scored 8 points in the 4th quarter literally everyone could have been better

Bottom line, the entire team got too cool for school and let their foot off the gas and it came back to bite them in the ass, they got what they deserved.

[eddieheatfan]

Please Posters, you are part of the problem.
And not the solution.... I don't claim to have answers but it is plain and simple... It is the basics... spo Is tired or confused... that is Probably why the team is so disorganized and low on morale

Yes, the players could be a lot better, but they also could be a lot worse...There are thousands of possibilities, trades, Positions, salaries, etc,etc

but there's only one front office And only one coach.

i think that the divorce has him depressed. he hasnt been the same since. either way, the heat must move on and rebuild, coach included. last loss to the magic was really embarrassing. it shouldnt have happened agaisnt a team that was hurt like they were and yet they showed more determination than the heat

[AirP.]

Please Posters, you are part of the problem.
And not the solution.... I don't claim to have answers but it is plain and simple... It is the basics... spo Is tired or confused... that is Probably why the team is so disorganized and low on morale

Yes, the players could be a lot better, but they also could be a lot worse...There are thousands of possibilities, trades, Positions, salaries, etc,etc

but there's only one front office And only one coach.

You say the posters are part of the problem but you didn't mention why, nor what the posters need to do to change?

The team has leaned into offense without having much offensive talent on the roster, it's really that simple. The only person really benefiting is Herro who is playing "off-ball" yet is taking the most shots per game of his career (and maybe this is what the FO wants). It really doesn't help to have 3 of your main guards who can't defend yet that's what this FO has given Spoelstra while Spoelstra is leaning more and more into Dru Smith who is really his only good defensive guard option at this time.

I put way more on the FO putting together (should I say keeping together) a bad overall roster than Spoelstra trying to get the most out of this roster. Weirdly, Lock'd on Heat finally said the FO didn't do enough during the Butler era and yet they haven't done much for the future other than utilize their own draft picks. The front office has done very little in the last half decade, they may have been putting in the time but they haven't executed much on a roster that's needed improvement.

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[Beenie]

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Wonder if Jovic is in his ear saying F Spo

[dubasilva]

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Wonder if Jovic is in his ear saying F Spo

Instead being in Spo's ear, he should make shots, play defense, etc...

[Beenie]

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Wonder if Jovic is in his ear saying F Spo

Instead being in Spo's ear, he should make shots, play defense, etc...

And learn body control and how to dribble better in tight quarters if he insists on barreling his way into the lane.

[AirP.]

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[twix2500]

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[AirP.]

Here's a question...

Minnesota has a PG problem but they're in the 2nd apron.

How about a trade centered around sending Rozier to Minnesota, getting back Randall.
Miami would also have to drop around another 10 million, so you're talking about sending out Robinson for under 10-million-dollar player in return to make it work.

For instance, Robinson could be sent to Detroit for Beasley and save a little bit of money.

[twix2500]

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