2024-25 NBA MVP Discussion Thread (Pt. 3: Son of daughter of MVP thread)

[Special_Puppy]

SGA best scorer in the NBA so far this season

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[Special_Puppy]

That SGA aura tik tok is stuck in my head

[DrModesty]

Insane on a night where Jokic goes 38/10/8 that he loses ground on SGA

[RRR3]

Hard not to see SGA winning atm

[Special_Puppy]

Hard not to see SGA winning atm

FWIW current odds are
SGA -650
Jokic +425
Giannis +8000
Tatum +25000
Wemby +30000

So yeah would be a surprise for SGA to not win even given the caveat that there are 30+ games left

[DrModesty]

Shai last 7 games scoring: 54, 31, 35, 52, 29 (3 quarters), 34 (3 quarters), 50

He is also averaging a flat 36 ppg since Jan 1st.

[Infinite Llamas]

March 9 and March 10

Circle them on your calendars.

[Jaqua92]

Insane on a night where Jokic goes 38/10/8 that he loses ground on SGA

This is as outrageous as suggesting SGA is a better scorer.

[Dutchball97]

With how insanely good both Jokic and SGA have been, I just don't see the argument for not giving the MVP to the guy on the 1st seed.

[Jaqua92]

I've watched teams go through trials and tribulations. I've also seen the 2012 thunder get to the finals at the same age. Teams don't have to go through trials and tribulations as much anymore. Because, aside from the Celtics, there are no established dominant teams that have been consistently making deep playoff runs. There always used to be several, yes, and up and coming teams struggled to beat them.

Had the Minnesota Timberwolves been through trials and tribulations before beating Denver last year (kills your argument right there)? Do you think last years Twolves were as good as OKC this season? Do you think the 23 wolves/Suns/Lakers or heat were anywhere close to as good as this year's thunder? I just dont see any logic to saying OKC has no chance to beat Denver with how they've looked this season. What proven teams in the West are there that they are too inexperienced to beat?

SGA has been the best guard in the league, and they are loaded. Experience isn't as important as it used to be.

It is when certain teams have a history of cracking under pressure.

I mean, yeah they lost in 6 to Dallas last year on a bad late foul by SGA. A Dallas team, by the way, who easily went on to handle Minnesota who beat Denver in the previous round. And I'll repeat, those Twolves who beat Denver had never won a single playoff series together prior to last year. It denounces your entire experience theory in relation to beating Denver, who is as unproven as any of the other top teams in the west this year. Their title in 23 was related to the competition they faced, as evidenced by last years series loss vs the inexperienced twolves (who were better than any teams they faced in 2023). All their title in 23 proved was that they could beat those weaker teams, which we already know. Can Denver beat a true championship contender? We'll see this year.

Hold.....

Did you not realize that 3 of Denver's rotational players were injured last year?

Good lord

[RRR3]

Jaqua having an absolute meltdown

Chill out you're not even a Denver fan

[Special_Puppy]

With how insanely good both Jokic and SGA have been, I just don't see the argument for not giving the MVP to the guy on the 1st seed.

*IF* you think the difference in team record is almost entirely due to the difference in supporting casts then I'm not sure why you'd care about the difference in team success

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[BigGargamel]

SGA isn't doing anything all that special recently other than scoring, but ESPN/the media and the casuals sure love those beautiful beautiful points per game so that has to look good to the mouth breathers out there.

Jokic has had a better year, and definitely a better run so far in 2025. Easy vote for January's player of the month.

Since January started the Thunder have been 13-4 and the Nuggets have been 14-6. Things are evening out between the two teams, but Denver's slow start still stands out.

Denver is very close go grabbing that three seed, and I would not be surprised if they end up at 2. They'll win over 50 games.

It's easy to see team record is still the main, and only, argument SGA has over Jokic. That extra 3.0 ppg doesn't make up for the fact that Jokic, a center, has almost twice as many assists as SGA, a point guard. SGA just doesn't have to do as much as Jokic for his team to win. A simple fact. We've moved past the point that the most PPG in the NBA on the team with the best record doesn't automatically equal MVP. SGA needs to do more for it to be fair.

[RRR3]

SGA isn't doing anything all that special recently other than scoring, but ESPN/the media and the casuals sure love those beautiful beautiful points per game so that has to look good to the mouth breathers out there.

Jokic has had a better year, and definitely a better run so far in 2025. Easy vote for January's player of the month.

Since January started the Thunder have been 13-4 and the Nuggets have been 14-6. Things are evening out between the two teams, but Denver's slow start still stands out.

Denver is very close go grabbing that three seed, and I would not be surprised if they end up at 2. They'll win over 50 games.

It's easy to see team record is still the main, and only, argument SGA has over Jokic. That extra 3.0 ppg doesn't make up for the fact that Jokic, a center, has almost twice as many assists as SGA, a point guard. SGA just doesn't have to do as much as Jokic for his team to win. A simple fact. We've moved past the point that the most PPG in the NBA on the team with the best record doesn't automatically equal MVP. SGA needs to do more for it to be fair.

As usual, pretending defense doesn't exist

Yes SGA isn't that special, you're so objective

[BigGargamel]

SGA isn't doing anything all that special recently other than scoring, but ESPN/the media and the casuals sure love those beautiful beautiful points per game so that has to look good to the mouth breathers out there.

Jokic has had a better year, and definitely a better run so far in 2025. Easy vote for January's player of the month.

Since January started the Thunder have been 13-4 and the Nuggets have been 14-6. Things are evening out between the two teams, but Denver's slow start still stands out.

Denver is very close go grabbing that three seed, and I would not be surprised if they end up at 2. They'll win over 50 games.

It's easy to see team record is still the main, and only, argument SGA has over Jokic. That extra 3.0 ppg doesn't make up for the fact that Jokic, a center, has almost twice as many assists as SGA, a point guard. SGA just doesn't have to do as much as Jokic for his team to win. A simple fact. We've moved past the point that the most PPG in the NBA on the team with the best record doesn't automatically equal MVP. SGA needs to do more for it to be fair.

As usual, pretending defense doesn't exist

Yes SGA isn't that special, you're so objective

Not what I said at all.

You probably have 100 posts in this thread, but have added absolutely nothing of value. All if know about you is "Jokic fans Stans lolzzzz"

Either contribute to the conversation or just sit in the corner and let the adults talk.

[RRR3]

We can't all make brilliant contributions like "Jokic is much better than SGA **** impact stats, defense doesn't matter, muh triple doublez" I guess

[MaliBrah]

SGA isn't doing anything all that special recently other than scoring, but ESPN/the media and the casuals sure love those beautiful beautiful points per game so that has to look good to the mouth breathers out there.

Jokic has had a better year, and definitely a better run so far in 2025. Easy vote for January's player of the month.

Since January started the Thunder have been 13-4 and the Nuggets have been 14-6. Things are evening out between the two teams, but Denver's slow start still stands out.

Denver is very close go grabbing that three seed, and I would not be surprised if they end up at 2. They'll win over 50 games.

It's easy to see team record is still the main, and only, argument SGA has over Jokic. That extra 3.0 ppg doesn't make up for the fact that Jokic, a center, has almost twice as many assists as SGA, a point guard. SGA just doesn't have to do as much as Jokic for his team to win. A simple fact. We've moved past the point that the most PPG in the NBA on the team with the best record doesn't automatically equal MVP. SGA needs to do more for it to be fair.

As usual, pretending defense doesn't exist

Yes SGA isn't that special, you're so objective

Not what I said at all.

You probably have 100 posts in this thread, but have added absolutely nothing of value. All if know about you is "Jokic fans Stans lolzzzz"

Either contribute to the conversation or just sit in the corner and let the adults talk.

You typed this and said let the adults talk?

SGA isn't doing anything all that special recently other than scoring, but ESPN/the media and the casuals sure love those beautiful beautiful points per game so that has to look good to the mouth breathers out there.

[1993Playoffs]

Lmao kinda funny see Jokic fans crash out over this MVP award, now they are hating on SGA

[BigGargamel]

I'm not here to make friends. Every once in a while I have to stop by in this thread and remind some people that SGA is, in fact, not a better player than Jokic and is not having a better season. It's all team record.

See you again in a few weeks.