Tank World Order (XIV) Here we go, The Final Stretch of the 2025 Tank Season!!!

[Jerry Lucas]

Time for the scheduled white boy comparison. Who is better Gradey or Kon?

Earlier in the college season, I had posted in one of the draft threads that freshman Gradey and freshman Kon actually had pretty similar production profiles, to the point where I wouldn't even call it a lazy comparison. Then Kon really separated himself as the season went on (from freshman Gradey).

[DelAbbot]

Sixers look poised to lose their 12th game in a row.

I envy the commitment to tanking excellence

Not saying I want to be the PHI, but I want their commitment to the correct direction for our FO.

[Boardbreaker]

Time for the scheduled white boy comparison. Who is better Gradey or Kon?

This might be another lazy white player comparison but am I alone in seeing Kon as a Joe Ingles type of player? Maybe a smaller but more of a rich man’s version offensively.

[youngRAPZ]

Time for the scheduled white boy comparison. Who is better Gradey or Kon?

At this point I'd have to say Kon would have more value (even outside of 2 more years of controllability)

Feels like he has better handles and is less of a defensive liability. And his shot looks like it would translate a bit more quickly to the NBA level.

That's my guess.

Not saying you’re wrong or disagreeing but I mean I remember lots of people saying the same things about dick before he stepped on the court. Dicks handles and defence looked good at Kansas too but obviously nba athletes will expose Kon just as much as Gradey.

That being said I like Kon and think he’s just as good a prospect as gradey.


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[Rapsalot]

We have to lose 1 game out of the next 3.

Christ, can we do it?

Should have been done and out of the way a long time ago and the very least vs Nets. You could have ended season at home starting everyone but BI. Maybe Gradey sit? Beat the crap out of Hornets for team and fans then seen skeleton to Tx for last 2 but no we F up and put draft capital at risk again.

MU needs to have the talk on selfish players again.

Rest everyone vs. Mavs with AD and hope it's an L. Then do whatever afterward.

We likely beat Hornets then I don’t let any starters get on the plane to Tx. Let NBA fine us? That would be crazy if they have not fined 76ers who have lost 11 in a row.

[ciueli]

We've been going on about how other teams are so bad and we're just too good to tank based on the personnel on the roster. I seriously hope they can prove it next season by actually winning. It would be a nightmare to discover we're just the best of the worst and we still don't have enough juice to be a solid playoff team.

So much depends on Ingram staying healthy and being an impact player again. Without him playing a significant number of games it's basically the same team we trotted out this year minus Bruce Brown, Kelly Olynk, and Chris Boucher as decent veteran bench pieces that actually won us some games. If there are other players missing games as well the record next season might not be much better than this season.

The current 7th place team in the East is under .500

The Bucks, sitting in 5th place, might be done, if Dame is done, and Giannis demands a trade.

6th place team is the Pistons. They have had a great year, but this is a team that has been rock bottom for years. Can they improve next year, or start to regress after a year playing inferior talent in the East.

Honestly, the Pistons rise this year, and the Magic last season are perfect examples of how teams can easily rise in the East.

The Magic are a perfect example of how even a good team loaded with young talent can falter when injuries hit. There's a good chance the same thing happens to us next season if Ingram can't stay healthy (you know, like he hasn't been able to to his entire career). We've also had trouble keeping Jak healthy (back issues), he's headed into his year 30 season and we literally have no replacement for him as a starting C right now and no salary flexibility to add anyone in the offseason.

To throw on to the pile, we'll be adding yet another two draft picks to a team that is already really young, we'll have to find minutes for our first round pick at least with no guarantee that player is good (rookies are usually mostly bad year 1), and then we'll also need to keep developing Gradey, Ja'Kobe, Shead, and Mogbo, none of those guys have shown they can be key pieces on a winning team yet.

The Pistons rose this year because they had a bunch of cap space to spend on win-now veterans to fill holes on their team, they still have a ton of salary flexibility with which to make moves and further improve. We will be right at the luxury tax line next season with no way to fill bench holes and relying heavily on our starting 5 to win games, a starting 5 that has literally never played together at all in a real NBA game so we have no idea if it will even work. We don't have a credible backup PF, no backup C, and we're an Ingram injury away from not having a credible backup SF, our projected backup PG is at 50.4% True Shooting and 33.3% 3pt percentage this season, that really tempers my expectations for this team next year.

[Basketball_Jones]

Our destiny is in our hands a bit here but holy crap it’s so hard to lose

[Basketball_Jones]

Time for the scheduled white boy comparison. Who is better Gradey or Kon?

Kon by a landslide

[ArthurVandelay]

I think either Raps lose to Mavs or Spurs beat Suns before Sunday

In other words, 7th not coming down to a coin toss

[redeye514]

RealGM, sorry if this was already answered, couldnt find it after a couple min of searching through posts...

If we win out, and Spurs lose out, who gets 7th?

[causal_fan]

RealGM, sorry if this was already answered, couldnt find it after a couple min of searching through posts...

If we win out, and Spurs lose out, who gets 7th?

Then it's a coin toss for 7/8th spot.

[Duffman100]

Sixers look poised to lose their 12th game in a row.

I envy the commitment to tanking excellence

Not saying I want to be the PHI, but I want their commitment to the correct direction for our FO.

What correct direction?

DedicatiNg a super max to a guy who plays 30 games a season. Signing a injury prone Paul George to a massive deal. Having a very bleak future outside of Maxey?

All to be a grand total of 2 spots ahead of us? Yeah ... that's commitment...

[Spida888]

I think either Raps lose to Mavs or Spurs beat Suns before Sunday

In other words, 7th not coming down to a coin toss

I hope you're right . If Lakers take care of the Mavs on Wed, then Mavs should play extra hard against the Raps on Fri to stay within the play-in.

[Pointgod]

I envy the commitment to tanking excellence

Not saying I want to be the PHI, but I want their commitment to the correct direction for our FO.

What correct direction?

DedicatiNg a super max to a guy who plays 30 games a season. Signing a injury prone Paul George to a massive deal. Having a very bleak future outside of Maxey?

All to be a grand total of 2 spots ahead of us? Yeah ... that's commitment...

I think what he’s saying is that the front office committed to keeping that lottery pick all of the way back in February probably a couple weeks before announcing Joel was out for the season. FYI post trade deadline they were four games ahead of us and now they’re 6 games behind us. That takes commitment to your craft.

[bluerap23]

Time for the scheduled white boy comparison. Who is better Gradey or Kon?

At this point I'd have to say Kon would have more value (even outside of 2 more years of controllability)

Feels like he has better handles and is less of a defensive liability. And his shot looks like it would translate a bit more quickly to the NBA level.

That's my guess.

Not saying you’re wrong or disagreeing but I mean I remember lots of people saying the same things about dick before he stepped on the court. Dicks handles and defence looked good at Kansas too but obviously nba athletes will expose Kon just as much as Gradey.

That being said I like Kon and think he’s just as good a prospect as gradey.


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I've really liked what I've seen from Kon in the tourney. He is very poised and under control. The one area I think Gradey has him is athleticism. Kon seems slower with less hops. I think Kon's floor is higher. Seems like he'd fit in any starting lineup as a 4th or 5th guy. I think Gradey has a higher ceiling though, just not sure he ever touches it.

[TeamDisgruntled]

I envy the commitment to tanking excellence

Not saying I want to be the PHI, but I want their commitment to the correct direction for our FO.

What correct direction?

DedicatiNg a super max to a guy who plays 30 games a season. Signing a injury prone Paul George to a massive deal. Having a very bleak future outside of Maxey?

All to be a grand total of 2 spots ahead of us? Yeah ... that's commitment...

It blows my mind that people around here still want to put an ounce of blame on the front office for not finishing absolute bottom of the league. It was NEVER going to happen. Not a chance on earth with our second half schedule that we could possibly finish that low without season ending injuries to our main guys.

Have you guys not been seeing what we’ve trotted out there? How many games guys have been sat while obviously being healthy/available? What more do you want from this front office? You guys realize other, **** rosters are ALSO trying to lose just as hard, while ALSO having harder second half schedules. I guess you wanted to gut the roster to the studs last season? Fair enough. I want Cooper too, hope for some luck and stop your whining.

[Godaddycurse]

Its much easier for Philly to tank because they have like zero prospects to try to develop after mccain is out for the year and they dont need to care about the team morale. Toronto was trying to develop 4 rookies and also keep its vets happy.

[earthtone]

At this point I'd have to say Kon would have more value (even outside of 2 more years of controllability)

Feels like he has better handles and is less of a defensive liability. And his shot looks like it would translate a bit more quickly to the NBA level.

That's my guess.

Not saying you’re wrong or disagreeing but I mean I remember lots of people saying the same things about dick before he stepped on the court. Dicks handles and defence looked good at Kansas too but obviously nba athletes will expose Kon just as much as Gradey.

That being said I like Kon and think he’s just as good a prospect as gradey.


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I've really liked what I've seen from Kon in the tourney. He is very poised and under control. The one area I think Gradey has him is athleticism. Kon seems slower with less hops. I think Kon's floor is higher. Seems like he'd fit in any starting lineup as a 4th or 5th guy. I think Gradey has a higher ceiling though, just not sure he ever touches it.

I think there's a ton of recency bias in here, Gradey is a tier above Kon as a prospect IMO. Gradey was National Player of the Year in highschool and had more scoring responsibilities on a much worse team than Kon. He struggled a bit this season, but still improved on almost every metric from his rookie year. He has waaay more off-the-dribble juice and ability to finish at and above the rim than Kon.

Gradey's biggest weakness by far is his physical strength, and luckily that's the one thing you're guaranteed to improve as you mature from a 20 year-old. Everyone was super low on Gradey when he struggled his first few months as a rookie until he turned it on after the all-star break, and his injuries robbed him of the chance to make that same leap this season. He comfortably clears Kon as a prospect imo

[Tha Cynic]

Not saying you’re wrong or disagreeing but I mean I remember lots of people saying the same things about dick before he stepped on the court. Dicks handles and defence looked good at Kansas too but obviously nba athletes will expose Kon just as much as Gradey.

That being said I like Kon and think he’s just as good a prospect as gradey.


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I've really liked what I've seen from Kon in the tourney. He is very poised and under control. The one area I think Gradey has him is athleticism. Kon seems slower with less hops. I think Kon's floor is higher. Seems like he'd fit in any starting lineup as a 4th or 5th guy. I think Gradey has a higher ceiling though, just not sure he ever touches it.

I think there's a ton of recency bias in here, Gradey is a tier above Kon as a prospect IMO. Gradey was National Player of the Year in highschool and had more scoring responsibilities on a much worse team than Kon. He struggled a bit this season, but still improved on almost every metric from his rookie year. He has waaay more off-the-dribble juice and ability to finish at and above the rim than Kon.

Gradey's biggest weakness by far is his physical strength, and luckily that's the one thing you're guaranteed to improve as you mature from a 20 year-old. Everyone was super low on Gradey when he struggled his first few months as a rookie until he turned it on after the all-star break, and his injuries robbed him of the chance to make that same leap this season. He comfortably clears Kon as a prospect imo

Yeah, I agree with this. Gradey has a ton more potential for me and he has shown that he can take the type of shots that can alter defences. I don’t see that from Kon and Kon looks very small on the court. It will be interesting to see his measurements. Of course Gradey’s shot not falling is a concern, but that potential is a lot more intriguing. I feel like a lot of what Kon does will be neutralized in the NBA at his size.

I also think Gradey’s defense will get better as he gets stronger. He had a stretch where he was rotating well last season, but then this year looked lost at times. Darko has shown he can develop the young guys well, so I have a ton of hope the same will happen with Gradey.

[GoRapstheoriginal]

NETS WIN! NETS WIN! WOOHOO! HOORAY!