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Post#761 » by Knicksfan1992 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:02 pm

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I believe the person that runs that account is a member of the forum actually. I might be getting them confused with Let's Talk Knicks though which is a similar type of fan content account.

They're doubling down in subsequent tweets and keeping it intentionally vague so it feels like towing the line of engagement bait with actual news.
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Post#762 » by Spandau » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:06 pm

DOT wrote:I'll keep saying it

If you go after Giannis, you should keep KAT.


This is really important…and despite what folks say, the assets are there to do it. Try to sort a deal with a core of Giannis and Pat Connaughton for Mikal, Hart, Mitch and someone like Dadiet.

I’m not going to pretend I know how we’d deal with the lost depth, but if there’s a way to put Giannis with Brunson, OG, KAT and Deuce, that’s a conversation worth having right away.
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Post#763 » by kNicksGmen » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:07 pm

Spandau wrote:
DOT wrote:I'll keep saying it

If you go after Giannis, you should keep KAT.


This is really important…and despite what folks say, the assets are there to do it. Try to sort a deal with a core of Giannis and Pat Connaughton for Mikal, Hart, Mitch and someone like Dadiet.

I’m not going to pretend I know how we’d deal with the lost depth, but if there’s a way to put Giannis with Brunson, OG, KAT and Deuce, that’s a conversation worth having right away.

have to hope you can get a bunch of vet mins that can actually play.
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Post#764 » by sol537 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:08 pm

Spandau wrote:
DOT wrote:I'll keep saying it

If you go after Giannis, you should keep KAT.


This is really important…and despite what folks say, the assets are there to do it. Try to sort a deal with a core of Giannis and Pat Connaughton for Mikal, Hart, Mitch and someone like Dadiet.

I’m not going to pretend I know how we’d deal with the lost depth, but if there’s a way to put Giannis with Brunson, OG, KAT and Deuce, that’s a conversation worth having right away.


If you're MIL, you're not going to accept that package and we don't have the picks to make up the difference, IMO of course. I think KAT has to be included as the starting point for any Giannis trade even if he's routed to a 3rd team for assets MIL actually wants.
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Post#765 » by Jay10 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:10 pm

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I wonder what could be going down three weeks before the draft outside of a coaching change?


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This was taped before big Knicks energy said what he tweeted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think it’s about thibs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or does Leon Rose walk away on a high note. The team had the best run they had in 25 years, but they weren't good enough, and very few ways to improve going forward.


KD for KAT and the Knicks are in the Finals next season.

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If you really want to mess with opposing team's defense you can also move KD to the Center position.
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Post#766 » by Capn'O » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:10 pm

Spandau wrote:
DOT wrote:I'll keep saying it

If you go after Giannis, you should keep KAT.


This is really important…and despite what folks say, the assets are there to do it. Try to sort a deal with a core of Giannis and Pat Connaughton for Mikal, Hart, Mitch and someone like Dadiet.

I’m not going to pretend I know how we’d deal with the lost depth, but if there’s a way to put Giannis with Brunson, OG, KAT and Deuce, that’s a conversation worth having right away.


I don't think that trade works without a lot of draft capital, which we no longer have.

I'm pessimistic that we have the gas for him. On the bright side, OKC's probably out.
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Post#767 » by Polk377 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:10 pm

DOT wrote:I'll keep saying it

If you go after Giannis, you should keep KAT.

They actually compliment each other perfectly as a big man combo.
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Post#768 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:15 pm

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WargamesX wrote:2nd apron rules is another reason they should trade KAT. He’s making too much money based on his production and liabilities.


KAT and Thibs for 2025-26 means we are not likely to ever again reach the ECF. One or both have to go. Yesterday was like the Pacers on ice skates and the Knicks stuck in cement. For a reported D coach, Thibs screwed the pooch. And that's not even getting into the pound 17 seconds for an iso offense. That worked well yesterday, didn't it? If this was baseball, KAT would be the designated hitter. And valuable. But it's basketball. :nonono:


Curious why you think this way. What have you seen from the current eastern conference that makes you think the teams we beat with these guys that will make them better or the teams we didn’t face to be better than this squad?

Exactly my thoughts. If anything, this team has literally proven the opposite: they are very capable of reaching the ECF.
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Post#769 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:17 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:
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I’d welcome Giannis with open arms. I don’t think I want to be shocked in any other way.
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Post#770 » by Jay10 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:17 pm

Polk377 wrote:
DOT wrote:I'll keep saying it

If you go after Giannis, you should keep KAT.

They actually compliment each other perfectly as a big man combo.


This is why i said KAT and Giannis would be a better fit than Giannis and Jalen.

Jalen to Giannis in pick and rolls isn't going to work because the defender is just going to drop and force Giannis to shoot mid-range jumpers from the free throw line, and they will welcome that since he isn't a threat as a shooter.

KAT and Giannis works because teams have to worry about KAT being a theat from the 3 point line. Do you give Giannis the dunk/layup or KAT the 3 pointer?
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Post#771 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:19 pm

Jay10 wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=W09F6FrMDfp5_y1gKYgF1g

This was taped before big Knicks energy said what he tweeted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think it’s about thibs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or does Leon Rose walk away on a high note. The team had the best run they had in 25 years, but they weren't good enough, and very few ways to improve going forward.


KD for KAT and the Knicks are in the Finals next season.

Brunson
Mikal
OG
KD
Mitchell

If you really want to mess with opposing team's defense you can also move KD to the Center position.

I wouldn’t trade KAT for Durant. He may be better, but also a lot older.
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Post#772 » by snadler » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:19 pm

The new year doesn’t start for a month, so nothing can happen now, the only obvious news is Thibs getting fired or mutually agreeing to part ways..maybe Leon stepping down..but trades etc can’t happen for weeks so nothing would be imminent or being announced soon
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Post#773 » by DOT » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:20 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Spandau wrote:
DOT wrote:I'll keep saying it

If you go after Giannis, you should keep KAT.


This is really important…and despite what folks say, the assets are there to do it. Try to sort a deal with a core of Giannis and Pat Connaughton for Mikal, Hart, Mitch and someone like Dadiet.

I’m not going to pretend I know how we’d deal with the lost depth, but if there’s a way to put Giannis with Brunson, OG, KAT and Deuce, that’s a conversation worth having right away.


I don't think that trade works without a lot of draft capital, which we no longer have.

I'm pessimistic that we have the gas for him. On the bright side, OKC's probably out.

Well that's really the rub, we don't have the assets to get anyone

But I also don't think the team needs another big name, we just need better fitting connective pieces.
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Post#774 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:21 pm

Jay10 wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
DOT wrote:I'll keep saying it

If you go after Giannis, you should keep KAT.

They actually compliment each other perfectly as a big man combo.


This is why i said KAT and Giannis would be a better fit than Giannis and Jalen.

Jalen to Giannis in pick and rolls isn't going to work because the defender is just going to drop and force Giannis to shoot mid-range jumpers from the free throw line, and they will welcome that since he isn't a threat as a shooter.

KAT and Giannis works because teams have to worry about KAT being a theat from the 3 point line. Do you give Giannis the dunk/layup or KAT the 3 pointer?

So Brunson can’t hit a three?
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Post#775 » by Richard4444 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:24 pm

sol537 wrote:
Spandau wrote:
DOT wrote:I'll keep saying it

If you go after Giannis, you should keep KAT.


This is really important…and despite what folks say, the assets are there to do it. Try to sort a deal with a core of Giannis and Pat Connaughton for Mikal, Hart, Mitch and someone like Dadiet.

I’m not going to pretend I know how we’d deal with the lost depth, but if there’s a way to put Giannis with Brunson, OG, KAT and Deuce, that’s a conversation worth having right away.


If you're MIL, you're not going to accept that package and we don't have the picks to make up the difference, IMO of course. I think KAT has to be included as the starting point for any Giannis trade even if he's routed to a 3rd team for assets MIL actually wants.


I don't think KAT has a lot of value either. He is not a superstar; he is old, and his contract is huge.

If the team is already a contender, it's tough to acquire KAT without trading away their core due to the Apron rules.

If the team is far away from contending, it doesn't make sense to build around KAT, considering his age and the gaps in his game.

Moreover, I can not see us trading a star such as KAT for inferior players. It would be marketing suicide.
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Post#776 » by Capn'O » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:26 pm

DOT wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Spandau wrote:
This is really important…and despite what folks say, the assets are there to do it. Try to sort a deal with a core of Giannis and Pat Connaughton for Mikal, Hart, Mitch and someone like Dadiet.

I’m not going to pretend I know how we’d deal with the lost depth, but if there’s a way to put Giannis with Brunson, OG, KAT and Deuce, that’s a conversation worth having right away.


I don't think that trade works without a lot of draft capital, which we no longer have.

I'm pessimistic that we have the gas for him. On the bright side, OKC's probably out.

Well that's really the rub, we don't have the assets to get anyone

But I also don't think the team needs another big name, we just need better fitting connective pieces.


Breaking up Villanova (Mikal or Hart) was my first thought. If Dallas were interested in KAT, Davis would make a ton of sense. They have Gafford and Lively to cover for him.

We're pretty well situated to make Player -> Player moves but Giannis takes draft capital and... yeah.
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Post#777 » by Jay10 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:27 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
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Polk377 wrote:They actually compliment each other perfectly as a big man combo.


This is why i said KAT and Giannis would be a better fit than Giannis and Jalen.

Jalen to Giannis in pick and rolls isn't going to work because the defender is just going to drop and force Giannis to shoot mid-range jumpers from the free throw line, and they will welcome that since he isn't a threat as a shooter.

KAT and Giannis works because teams have to worry about KAT being a theat from the 3 point line. Do you give Giannis the dunk/layup or KAT the 3 pointer?

So Brunson can’t hit a three?


You plan on turning Brunson into a spot up 3 point shooter, because Giannis needs the ball to be effective because he can't shoot..

The only way Giannis and Jalen can work together is by Giannis playing the role of Shaq.
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Post#778 » by WargamesX » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:27 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
sol537 wrote:
Spandau wrote:
This is really important…and despite what folks say, the assets are there to do it. Try to sort a deal with a core of Giannis and Pat Connaughton for Mikal, Hart, Mitch and someone like Dadiet.

I’m not going to pretend I know how we’d deal with the lost depth, but if there’s a way to put Giannis with Brunson, OG, KAT and Deuce, that’s a conversation worth having right away.


If you're MIL, you're not going to accept that package and we don't have the picks to make up the difference, IMO of course. I think KAT has to be included as the starting point for any Giannis trade even if he's routed to a 3rd team for assets MIL actually wants.


I don't think KAT has a lot of value either. He is not a superstar; he is old, and his contract is huge.

If the team is already a contender, it's tough to acquire KAT without trading away their core due to the Apron rules.

If the team is far away from contending, it doesn't make sense to build around KAT, considering his age and the gaps in his game.

Moreover, I can not see us trading a star such as KAT for inferior players. It would be marketing suicide.

He’s in his prime, just had back to back conference finals runs, and was 3rd team all NBA. He absolutely has positive value and might even be worth more since we now know last season wasn’t a fluke.
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Post#779 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:29 pm

DOT wrote:
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Spandau wrote:
This is really important…and despite what folks say, the assets are there to do it. Try to sort a deal with a core of Giannis and Pat Connaughton for Mikal, Hart, Mitch and someone like Dadiet.

I’m not going to pretend I know how we’d deal with the lost depth, but if there’s a way to put Giannis with Brunson, OG, KAT and Deuce, that’s a conversation worth having right away.


I don't think that trade works without a lot of draft capital, which we no longer have.

I'm pessimistic that we have the gas for him. On the bright side, OKC's probably out.

Well that's really the rub, we don't have the assets to get anyone

But I also don't think the team needs another big name, we just need better fitting connective pieces.

I agree with you 100%. It is also an a lot more interesting question who these players could be. I actually think we have a lot of options.
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Post#780 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:30 pm

WargamesX wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
sol537 wrote:
If you're MIL, you're not going to accept that package and we don't have the picks to make up the difference, IMO of course. I think KAT has to be included as the starting point for any Giannis trade even if he's routed to a 3rd team for assets MIL actually wants.


I don't think KAT has a lot of value either. He is not a superstar; he is old, and his contract is huge.

If the team is already a contender, it's tough to acquire KAT without trading away their core due to the Apron rules.

If the team is far away from contending, it doesn't make sense to build around KAT, considering his age and the gaps in his game.

Moreover, I can not see us trading a star such as KAT for inferior players. It would be marketing suicide.

He’s in his prime, just had back to back conference finals runs, and was 3rd team all NBA. He absolutely has positive value and might even be worth more since we now know last season wasn’t a fluke.

Great. Keep him then.

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