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2015-16 Fake Trade Thread

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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#781 » by LofJ » Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:21 am

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yosemiteben wrote:I think Calderon makes the most sense, but would NYK move him without getting a PG in return? They have Grant and Larkin and Galloway, so maybe they have enough going on there. Don't know their team as well.

they have plenty of cap space to sign a good starter


On top of what they're already paying Calderon for the next 2 years? That's not smart cap management. If they're going after another point on top of Grant it's a good idea to move Jose. No guarantee that they are, Calderon is a backup at this stage of his career but not a bad one.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#782 » by BigSlam » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:53 pm

I know he's a huge unknown and also a risk - and he might not even be on the block, but I would LOVE for our front office to make an aggressive play for Embiid.

Not sure if he could be acquired on the cheap, but if he could be I would be all over it.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#783 » by chellis20 » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:39 pm

BigSlam wrote:I know he's a huge unknown and also a risk - and he might not even be on the block, but I would LOVE for our front office to make an aggressive play for Embiid.

Not sure if he could be acquired on the cheap, but if he could be I would be all over it.



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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#784 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:53 pm

BigSlam wrote:I know he's a huge unknown and also a risk - and he might not even be on the block, but I would LOVE for our front office to make an aggressive play for Embiid.

Not sure if he could be acquired on the cheap, but if he could be I would be all over it.


What do you consider "an aggressive play for Embiid"?
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#785 » by LofJ » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:04 am

I doubt we do this, but I think this trade is feasible provided the Lakers aren't able to sign a center in free agency.

We send out Al Jefferson
We get back Jordan Hill

This move saves us 5 million and makes resigning Biz a lot easier.

We then move Marvin and a lottery protected first to Brookyn for Jarrett Jack. This cuts off an additional one million from the payroll and balances out the roster.

Kemba/Jack/Roberts
Batum/Lamb/Daniels
MKG/Hairston
Kaminsky/Zeller
Biyombo/Hawes/Hill

With these moves we'd have an extra 6 million to pay Biyombo and we could finally give the reins over to our young guys and clear the lane for Kemba and MKG.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#786 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:06 am

Jack has an extra year on his deal. My offer is Marvin straight up. No picks.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#787 » by yosemiteben » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:07 am

LofJ wrote:This move saves us 5 million and makes resigning Biz a lot easier.


Signing Biz already is easy though. We aren't really in danger of going into the luxury tax with our current roster, and there's no other reason not to sign him. MJ is about to get an All Star game, he better be willing to open the check book.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#788 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:13 am

stinger14 wrote:We should just make an offer for Carmelo at thus point. He is pissed at the Knicks front office. We are obviously vacating our supposed patient rebuild program to make playoffs, so it is a perfect fit. They get young talent, expirings, and/or draft picks. We get that scoring machine we need. One thing for me though big Al has to be part of the salary offset whether the Knicks use his expiring for cap room next year or they flip him to a 3rd team.

Big Al, Marvin, Kaminsky, and future picks

Kemba / FA / Roberts
Batum / Lamb
MKG / PJ
Carmelo / Zeller
Biz / Hawes

I'm still drawn to this idea. NYC needs a full rebuild and Carmelo needs to find a home on a team trying to win now. That said I'm thinking that NYC isn't going to want Al or Marvin, even if they are expirings.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#789 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:13 am

Al's Jefferson's name will appear in this thread all season. But the thing that puts Al's lard ass on the bench and our best lineup on the floor will be injury (due to high fructose corn syrup addiction, insulin resistance and poor conditioning).
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#790 » by LofJ » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:19 am

yosemiteben wrote:
LofJ wrote:This move saves us 5 million and makes resigning Biz a lot easier.


Signing Biz already is easy though. We aren't really in danger of going into the luxury tax with our current roster, and there's no other reason not to sign him. MJ is about to get an All Star game, he better be willing to open the check book.


Completely agree, MJ definitely needs to open his check book for Biz. As for the extra year on Jack's contract I'm not sure the Nets will be willing to move him just for the 6 million in savings next year. I'm not sure they'd see that as enough incentive, especially if they're going to pay Thad Young. If they let him walk though I could see a straight swap interesting them.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#791 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:23 am

LofJ wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
LofJ wrote:This move saves us 5 million and makes resigning Biz a lot easier.


Signing Biz already is easy though. We aren't really in danger of going into the luxury tax with our current roster, and there's no other reason not to sign him. MJ is about to get an All Star game, he better be willing to open the check book.


Completely agree, MJ definitely needs to open his check book for Biz. As for the extra year on Jack's contract I'm not sure the Nets will be willing to move him just for the 6 million in savings next year. I'm not sure they'd see that as enough incentive, especially if they're going to pay Thad Young. If they let him walk though I could see a straight swap interesting them.


Well I hope Thad Young leaves and the Nets approach us for Marvin. We offer Marvin for Jack and just before the papers are processed we back out and deal Marv for Jason Thompson instead.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#792 » by BigSlam » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:27 am

Oh, and as for our backup SF problem, I'd love to make a play for KJ McDaniels.

He reminds me a LOT of a young Gerald Wallace.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#793 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:34 am

Backup PG targets

Jarrett Jack
Avery Bradley
Jose Calderon
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#794 » by catch20two » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:37 am

BigSlam wrote:Oh, and as for our backup SF problem, I'd love to make a play for KJ McDaniels.

He reminds me a LOT of a young Gerald Wallace.

That's a problem on a problem.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#795 » by BeesWax » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:49 am

BigSlam wrote:Oh, and as for our backup SF problem, I'd love to make a play for KJ McDaniels.

He reminds me a LOT of a young Gerald Wallace.

While this would be a smart move it is not one Cho can make. If we had a better coach it would be a great idea but we are obviously sacrificing quality and future to only pick guys that Cliff can figure out how to use. He has no clue how to use a quality athletic player who can do a lot but isn't a three point threat. Now if we do pick him up on a reasonable multi year deal I will be excited when we get someone who knows how to use him.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#796 » by stinger14 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:34 am

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:
stinger14 wrote:We should just make an offer for Carmelo at thus point. He is pissed at the Knicks front office. We are obviously vacating our supposed patient rebuild program to make playoffs, so it is a perfect fit. They get young talent, expirings, and/or draft picks. We get that scoring machine we need. One thing for me though big Al has to be part of the salary offset whether the Knicks use his expiring for cap room next year or they flip him to a 3rd team.

Big Al, Marvin, Kaminsky, and future picks

Kemba / FA / Roberts
Batum / Lamb
MKG / PJ
Carmelo / Zeller
Biz / Hawes

I'm still drawn to this idea. NYC needs a full rebuild and Carmelo needs to find a home on a team trying to win now. That said I'm thinking that NYC isn't going to want Al or Marvin, even if they are expirings.


Love the idea, not sure this organization has it in them to pull a move like this....
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#797 » by Diop » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:22 am

I really like that lineup with Melo, but I think if New York traded Melo now the city would right and burn MSG to the ground.

They were pissed about the draft pick not being "win now" trading away the franchise player would be suicide
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#798 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:37 am

Sixers have to trade one of Noel, Embiid, or Okafor eventually. I don't see Noel being a long term 4 in today's NBA.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#799 » by Diop » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:40 am

If I was the 6ers I would consider playing them all this season, unless they think Embiid is going to have an Oden career than trade him ASAP.
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Re: 2015-16 Fake Trade Thread 

Post#800 » by stinger14 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:14 am

3 team trade sending out big Al and getting our backup PG

Hornets get Collison and Thompson from Kings

Mavericks get Big Al from Hornets

Kings get Rondo from Mavs in a S & T

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