2020 Offseason: Trade Ideas / Trade Talk

[RookieStar]

The only way I accept a potential Rubio trade is that we trade Fultz somehow. But it is not going to happen. So NO to Rubio.

What is the expectation for Fultz’s return next season? Do we think he will be playing in games before March?

My thinking is he will be back before the season starts. Now March?

I thought it was widely expected that Fultz will miss a chunk in the 1st half of next season. I expect him December at the earliest seeing his injury ( if you compare to other NBA players) has more or less a 1 year absence.

[basketballRob]

Rubio would probably help the team next season, until Fultz got completely healthy. I'd like to see some of our players with a PG that can pass. Also can we get get Rubio plus Culver, a pick swap, or a future 1st?

Rubio is playing great right now.

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[neuraldarwinism]

lol

Josh Robbins: The Magic own a 13-26 record. Team officials think a healthy roster would have competed for a playoff berth this season, and they’re probably correct. But the avalanche of key injuries and a difficult remaining schedule now make it unlikely for Orlando to challenge for a spot in the East’s play-in tournament.

So let’s explore ways to put Orlando in position to have a productive 2021-22 season and an optimistic long-term outlook. As you examine the current roster and the franchise’s salary-cap situation, what would concern you if you were in Magic officials’ shoes?

John Hollinger: The No. 1 thing that would concern me is that the overall talent level just isn’t that great. The best player on the team, Nikola Vucevic, is a borderline All-Star and he’s 30, and the next-best offensive player, Evan Fournier, is about to become a free agent. Maybe Jonathan Isaac blows up next season and changes that picture, but for now, they’re trying to squeeze an eighth seed from a limited roster.

The other issue is the luxury-tax situation for 2021-22. I don’t think this team is good enough to justify spending into the tax, but unless Al-Farouq Aminu miraculously opts out of his 10 USD (10 USD) million player option for next year, the Magic seem unlikely to be able to re-sign Fournier and remain below the line. They’re likely looking at using their mid-level exception and minimum contracts.


Danny Leroux: My bigger concern is not their expected talent level but the lack of dramatic upside. A fully healthy Isaac would elevate their defense, and this group has made the playoffs before, but there is not a clear avenue to a dynamic enough offense to really make noise in the Eastern Conference. Having a capacity to win a playoff series rather than getting a spot in the postseason only matters if ownership values it, and shifting gears more fully would be painful for a franchise that has won two playoff games since trading Dwight Howard in August 2012.

Without changing direction, it appears the Magic are the franchise most firmly on the treadmill of mediocrity in the entire NBA. While there are worse places to be than mediocre, the longer they stay here the longer it will take to move forward because building a roster that can win postseason series requires talent upgrades that typically come with either high draft picks or significant cap space.ontracts.

[ogmagicfan]

We’ve heard rumors of management holding out from trading Aaron Gordon & Vucevic due to packages not having high enough draft picks (lottery). Realistically which teams that seem lottery bound can you see trading their upcoming 1st round pick? Note that the team could also be a 3rd team in a trade that doesn’t acquire Vuc or Gordon.

NO & Houston have been linked to Gordon, however Houston seems primed to keep their pick or it goes to OKC if it falls out the top 4.

[3ddman23]

Pretty hilarious that augustine gets traded in his first season with the bucks just like he did with a bunch of other teams but yet he managed to not get traded for 4 seasons in orlando. Lol idk what to think about that. Ugh this organization....

[skywalker33]

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Gotta say this is a bit intriguing...

[VFX]

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Gotta say this is a bit intriguing...

Not surprising, but interesting.

Magic starting lineup:

Mobley
Isaac
Vucevic
Bamba
Bol Bol

[Skin]

Kevin Porter Jr has been tearing it up. Loved him in the draft and his problems dissuaded teams from trading for him, but Houston has found themselves a stud.

[pepe1991]

Kevin Porter Jr has been tearing it up. Loved him in the draft and his problems dissuaded teams from trading for him, but Houston has found themselves a stud.

Bro, he is guard who shoots 23% for 3. He is like Fultz, just has no medical record.

Houston is terrible, terrible, terrible team. Easly worst team in nba.

For istance, last night he played 38 min, Houston was down by 23 at half time. Game was never even competitive, he just kept adding empty calory numbers for rest of a game and played basically whole 4th quater that wasn't even competitive basketball


He might develop into something, but so far, it's like Malik Beasley- 20 ppg on T wolves. IT doesn't mean much if they are goign to lose by 25 every game and he will play 40 min on 25 shots.

[Skin]

Kevin Porter Jr has been tearing it up. Loved him in the draft and his problems dissuaded teams from trading for him, but Houston has found themselves a stud.

Bro, he is guard who shoots 23% for 3. He is like Fultz, just has no medical record.

Houston is terrible, terrible, terrible team. Easly worst team in nba.

For istance, last night he played 38 min, Houston was down by 23 at half time. Game was never even competitive, he just kept adding empty calory numbers for rest of a game and played basically whole 4th quater that wasn't even competitive basketball


He might develop into something, but so far, it's like Malik Beasley- 20 ppg on T wolves. IT doesn't mean much if they are goign to lose by 25 every game and he will play 40 min on 25 shots.

He hasn't "arrived", but he's already more than anyone every expected. His 3pt shot may be a work in progress, but he's putting up 20 ppg, 8 apg, 1.8 spg, 1 bpg in the last week. Not bad for the 30th pick of the draft.

I bet HOU wouldn't give him to us even if we offered Vuc.

[ogmagicfan]

Kevin Porter Jr has been tearing it up. Loved him in the draft and his problems dissuaded teams from trading for him, but Houston has found themselves a stud.

Bro, he is guard who shoots 23% for 3. He is like Fultz, just has no medical record.

Houston is terrible, terrible, terrible team. Easly worst team in nba.

For istance, last night he played 38 min, Houston was down by 23 at half time. Game was never even competitive, he just kept adding empty calory numbers for rest of a game and played basically whole 4th quater that wasn't even competitive basketball


He might develop into something, but so far, it's like Malik Beasley- 20 ppg on T wolves. IT doesn't mean much if they are goign to lose by 25 every game and he will play 40 min on 25 shots.

Comparing his shooting to Fultz is dishonest. He shot 34% from 3 last season in 50 games and you’re judging him for 3 point shooting from a 5 game sample. He shot 41% in college.

It’s a no brainer that the Magic should have traded for him, especially considering how low the price was and with Fultz being out & Fournier more than likely being on his way out. No reason he can’t become more consistent from 3 but his skill is undeniable regardless of what team he’s playing for.

[Bensational]

ORL
out: Gordon + Fournier + Birch
in: Harris + Barton + Bol + Dozier/Hampton

DEN
out: Harris + Barton + Bol + Dozier/Hampton
in: Gordon + Fournier + Birch

Vuc/Bamba
Chuma/Bol/Aminu
(Isaac)/Barton/Bacon
Harris/Ross/(Hampton/Dozier)
(Fultz)/Cole/MCW

Bamba/Bol/Isaac would be something to watch on defense. That's a lot of long players that would go a long way to locking down the paint when needed.

Barton would be an underrated scoring spark plug for us, similar to Ross. Like Ross 2.0.

Harris I'm not fussed about in the slightest. If another team would take him (SAC for Hield? HOU for Oladipo?) I'd do it in a second.

Dozier/Hampton is up to WeHam. I suspect they'd want Hampton, but maybe not.

Denver consolidate in a big way and get 3 much better depth pieces. They might be just what they need to get to the finals this time around.

[jonbob17]

What is the expectation for Fultz’s return next season? Do we think he will be playing in games before March?

My thinking is he will be back before the season starts. Now March?

I thought it was widely expected that Fultz will miss a chunk in the 1st half of next season. I expect him December at the earliest seeing his injury ( if you compare to other NBA players) has more or less a 1 year absence.

He tore us ACL in January. It’s at least a 12 month injury. Our front office has historically been pretty cautious returning players to the court. If we return to normal next year the season would start in October by the way. They may start the season later who knows. I’d be shocked if we saw Fultz before February. In all likelihood the All star break if I had to guess. Assuming the schedule returns to normal.

[89Magicfan]

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Gotta say this is a bit intriguing...

Why would you be intrigued with this?

This to me would be an absolute joke.

[Skybox]

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Gotta say this is a bit intriguing...

Why would you be intrigued with this?

This to me would be an absolute joke.

That's my initial response too...convince me please

[pepe1991]

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Gotta say this is a bit intriguing...

Why would you be intrigued with this?

This to me would be an absolute joke.

Bol is nothing but gimmick. He is execlly same type of player that gives somebody as dumb as Hammond boners. Tall, without purpose without any basketball skills player that has NO usage in modern baskteball. Bol is like Maker,Skal Labissière,Bamba or Mouhamed Sene in past.
He is player that at college level ( or highschool or in Europe, China... ) looks interesting because he moves better than other big men ( and there is no big men to being with ), but mostly because they weight 30-40 pounds less than other bigs, against competition mostly made by 6'4-6'8 players.
SO they dominate and show " ballhandling and shooting skills". Where in reality, they just have huge benefits of being taller and more mobile than most of ( low quality) competition they face.

Once they get into nba, they have no role or purpose in modern era. Nuggets play Isaiah Hartenstein over him... i don't know who that guy is.

[The Real Dalic]

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Gotta say this is a bit intriguing...

Why would you be intrigued with this?

This to me would be an absolute joke.

Bol is nothing but gimmick. He is execlly same type of player that gives somebody as dumb as Hammond boners. Tall, without purpose without any basketball skills player that has NO usage in modern baskteball. Bol is like Maker,Skal Labissière,Bamba or Mouhamed Sene in past.
He is player that at college level ( or highschool or in Europe, China... ) looks interesting because he moves better than other big men ( and there is no big men to being with ), but mostly because they weight 30-40 pounds less than other bigs, against competition mostly made by 6'4-6'8 players.
SO they dominate and show " ballhandling and shooting skills". Where in reality, they just have huge benefits of being taller and more mobile than most of ( low quality) competition they face.

Once they get into nba, they have no role or purpose in modern era. Nuggets play Isaiah Hartenstein over him... i don't know who that guy is.

Yeah, I really never understood the Bol Bol thing. He doesn't even play as far as I know. We would also still have the same problem with him as we do with Bamba anyway. Not sure why we would want him.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

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Gotta say this is a bit intriguing...

Why would you be intrigued with this?

This to me would be an absolute joke.

That's my initial response too...convince me please

there's no convincing. Bol Bol will be out of the league after his rookie deal

[pepe1991]

Why would you be intrigued with this?

This to me would be an absolute joke.

That's my initial response too...convince me please

there's no convincing. Bol Bol will be out of the league after his rookie deal

Man i don't want to make it sound racist or anything... but look at career of his father.
10 years in nba 1 year in italy.
Career average 2,6 points a game in centers era.

7'6 guy who had some heavy african accent talking stories how he might be 50 years old, when he was 25. NBA kept him because it was great global PR.
NBA does the same with Boban Marjanovic or Taco Fall, they hold very little playing value, they never will, but they are attraction to fans and they are all very nice people, that's why they stick for long.

Only super tall players that actually had some playing value were Shawn Bradley and Ming. And fans and Bradley himself, embraced role of goofbomb cartoonish villain, most people hated him.

btw Bradley had accident i think today, and it seems like it will be really, really nasty one. hopefully first opinions are not correct ones.

[thelead]

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Gotta say this is a bit intriguing...

Why would you be intrigued with this?

This to me would be an absolute joke.

Because he is a Nuggets fan and it would be highway robbery. I don’t blame him but of course he’s intrigued. I would be intrigued by a Fournier for Murray rumor too