Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?)

[FNQ]

Wiseman for Hampton and Bol Bol pull the trigger now before it's too late

good grief I hope this is self deprecating sarcasm

that's exactly what yall said when I said we need to trade for Hunter, and then Hali...now it's too late.

Which of those 2 guys is appealing to you? Hampton can't shoot and gets lost a lot in my limited viewings of him, and Bol Bol is basically Boban, and cant play more than 10-15mpg

[tarantism]

What about Oubre & Wiseman for Jerami Grant?

I feel like he'd be exactly what we need, another long smart 2 way player in the dubs mold. I would imagine that there is also a Kerr connection with him having played with his uncle. Makes way more sense than Beal, who is smaller, more ball dominant, and doesn't have the same defensive tools.

what's the point¿

is Grant gonna get us over the hill at this point? right now he's just a dude who seemingly posts empty numbers on a terrible team.

I don't think we should trade Wiseman for Grant but don't downplay what Jerami Grant has done this year because the Pistons are bad. He's increased his raw totals and ballooned his usage while maintaining good efficiency. Nobody thought he could succeed as a primary option and he proved everybody wrong, including me and I was already a big Grant guy.

Not to mention he already proved he can be a key contributor on a team that went deep into the playoffs last year.

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[clyde21]

good grief I hope this is self deprecating sarcasm

that's exactly what yall said when I said we need to trade for Hunter, and then Hali...now it's too late.

Which of those 2 guys is appealing to you? Hampton can't shoot and gets lost a lot in my limited viewings of him, and Bol Bol is basically Boban, and cant play more than 10-15mpg

both, i am big fan of both players obviously and think they would be great fits here.

[clyde21]

What about Oubre & Wiseman for Jerami Grant?

I feel like he'd be exactly what we need, another long smart 2 way player in the dubs mold. I would imagine that there is also a Kerr connection with him having played with his uncle. Makes way more sense than Beal, who is smaller, more ball dominant, and doesn't have the same defensive tools.

what's the point¿

is Grant gonna get us over the hill at this point? right now he's just a dude who seemingly posts empty numbers on a terrible team.

I don't think we should trade Wiseman for Grant but don't downplay what Jerami Grant has done this year because the Pistons are bad. He's increased his raw totals and ballooned his usage while maintaining good efficiency. Nobody thought he could succeed as a primary option and he proved everybody wrong, including me and I was already a big Grant guy.

Not to mention he already proved he can be a key contributor on a team that went deep into the playoffs last year.

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i'm not downplaying it, he's my MIP right now, but I just don't see the point of this trade. and it's crazy to make that people were not willing to trade Wiseman for Haliburton or Hunter but now they want to trade Wiseman for Jerami Grant.

[tarantism]

what's the point¿

is Grant gonna get us over the hill at this point? right now he's just a dude who seemingly posts empty numbers on a terrible team.

I don't think we should trade Wiseman for Grant but don't downplay what Jerami Grant has done this year because the Pistons are bad. He's increased his raw totals and ballooned his usage while maintaining good efficiency. Nobody thought he could succeed as a primary option and he proved everybody wrong, including me and I was already a big Grant guy.

Not to mention he already proved he can be a key contributor on a team that went deep into the playoffs last year.

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i'm not downplaying it, he's my MIP right now, but I just don't see the point of this trade. and it's crazy to make that people were not willing to trade Wiseman for Haliburton or Hunter but now they want to trade Wiseman for Jerami Grant.

You're really gonna die on that "Wiseman for Haliburton" hill huh?

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[clyde21]

I don't think we should trade Wiseman for Grant but don't downplay what Jerami Grant has done this year because the Pistons are bad. He's increased his raw totals and ballooned his usage while maintaining good efficiency. Nobody thought he could succeed as a primary option and he proved everybody wrong, including me and I was already a big Grant guy.

Not to mention he already proved he can be a key contributor on a team that went deep into the playoffs last year.

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i'm not downplaying it, he's my MIP right now, but I just don't see the point of this trade. and it's crazy to make that people were not willing to trade Wiseman for Haliburton or Hunter but now they want to trade Wiseman for Jerami Grant.

You're really gonna die on that "Wiseman for Haliburton" hill huh?

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[FNQ]

that's exactly what yall said when I said we need to trade for Hunter, and then Hali...now it's too late.

Which of those 2 guys is appealing to you? Hampton can't shoot and gets lost a lot in my limited viewings of him, and Bol Bol is basically Boban, and cant play more than 10-15mpg

both, i am big fan of both players obviously and think they would be great fits here.

I get that, I'm asking why. I dont see anything particularly interesting with either player, and Hampton's international profile wasn't much to get excited about either

[FNQ]

Wouldnt trade Wiseman for Grant... Grant thrives in isolation. If we're trading Wiseman, should be for someone who fits our system. If they dont fit our system, no real point, because the whole idea of trading Wiseman is to find someone who fits the system.

Otherwise, why not just develop Wiseman, if we aren't going to give our stars a good complement?

[Big J]

Haliburton is great, and he would be an awesome floor raiser, but he doesn't have Grant's athleticism, physicality, or scoring ability. Kings probably would never trade him either.

[Big J]

Wouldnt trade Wiseman for Grant... Grant thrives in isolation. If we're trading Wiseman, should be for someone who fits our system. If they dont fit our system, no real point, because the whole idea of trading Wiseman is to find someone who fits the system.

Otherwise, why not just develop Wiseman, if we aren't going to give our stars a good complement?

But you think Beal fits our system? He is tiny and doesn't play a lick of defense. He'd be a horrible fit next to Curry.

[clyde21]

Which of those 2 guys is appealing to you? Hampton can't shoot and gets lost a lot in my limited viewings of him, and Bol Bol is basically Boban, and cant play more than 10-15mpg

both, i am big fan of both players obviously and think they would be great fits here.

I get that, I'm asking why. I dont see anything particularly interesting with either player, and Hampton's international profile wasn't much to get excited about either

neither was LaMelo's...if shooting is the shooting for you for RJ I don't think that's gonna be a problem, I trust his shooting and scoring long term, and he's a multi-positional guard on both ends of the court is a great fit here next to Steph and Klay in the coming years.

[ahmetmekin]

What about Wiseman for Wood? Both bpm and rpm like him. I did not watch him enough to say he fits or does not fit our system.

[FNQ]

Wouldnt trade Wiseman for Grant... Grant thrives in isolation. If we're trading Wiseman, should be for someone who fits our system. If they dont fit our system, no real point, because the whole idea of trading Wiseman is to find someone who fits the system.

Otherwise, why not just develop Wiseman, if we aren't going to give our stars a good complement?

But you think Beal fits our system? He is tiny and doesn't play a lick of defense. He'd be a horrible fit next to Curry.

1) He has a much larger wingspan than his height, which doesnt matter
2) He was a good defender before Wall went down, and the Wizards backcourt went extremely well with Wall
3) He's learned to be a primary ball handler and is still lethal off-ball as well

He'd actually be a perfect fit next to Curry

[FNQ]

What about Wiseman for Wood? Both bpm and rpm like him. I did not watch him enough to say he fits or does not fit our system.

Im with you - I havent seen enough to say either way, but I'm at least intrigued. Would be a hard contract to pry from Houston though - very rare you get players of that caliber on a 2nd contract that nice

[FNQ]

both, i am big fan of both players obviously and think they would be great fits here.

I get that, I'm asking why. I dont see anything particularly interesting with either player, and Hampton's international profile wasn't much to get excited about either

neither was LaMelo's...if shooting is the shooting for you for RJ I don't think that's gonna be a problem, I trust his shooting and scoring long term, and he's a multi-positional guard on both ends of the court is a great fit here next to Steph and Klay in the coming years.

thats true but go further back and in HS level competition, Melo was a decent 3pt shooter, just chose his spots horribly. Had range like crazy. Hampton.. just one of those classic can't shoot types.

Long-term is the issue here. IDGAF about long-term.. if we're going to wait on someone to develop, might as well be JW. I'm only down to trade him for some immediate, good-fit help for our stars.

[Big J]

What about Wiseman for Wood? Both bpm and rpm like him. I did not watch him enough to say he fits or does not fit our system.

Im with you - I havent seen enough to say either way, but I'm at least intrigued. Would be a hard contract to pry from Houston though - very rare you get players of that caliber on a 2nd contract that nice

I'd do Oubre & Wiseman for Wood in a heartbeat. Why would Houston reject a Wiseman trade? Young assets are probably exactly what they want.

[FNQ]

What about Wiseman for Wood? Both bpm and rpm like him. I did not watch him enough to say he fits or does not fit our system.

Im with you - I havent seen enough to say either way, but I'm at least intrigued. Would be a hard contract to pry from Houston though - very rare you get players of that caliber on a 2nd contract that nice

I'd do Oubre & Wiseman for Wood in a heartbeat. Why would Houston reject a Wiseman trade? Young assets are probably exactly what they want.

When we signed Curry to something like a 4-42 extension, would you have given him up for a young prospect and hoped to hit again? Or would you have taken the currently successful player on a great contract and ran with it?

I dont think HOU is going to have much interest in trading Wood at all, and if they did, we wouldnt have much interest in paying that price

[Big J]

Im with you - I havent seen enough to say either way, but I'm at least intrigued. Would be a hard contract to pry from Houston though - very rare you get players of that caliber on a 2nd contract that nice

I'd do Oubre & Wiseman for Wood in a heartbeat. Why would Houston reject a Wiseman trade? Young assets are probably exactly what they want.

When we signed Curry to something like a 4-42 extension, would you have given him up for a young prospect and hoped to hit again? Or would you have taken the currently successful player on a great contract and ran with it?

I dont think HOU is going to have much interest in trading Wood at all, and if they did, we wouldnt have much interest in paying that price

Wood's nice, but he's never going to the the number one on a contending team. We had already seen that Curry had that potential when he signed his deal, it was just a matter of getting his ankles & the coaching issues fixed.

[FNQ]

I'd do Oubre & Wiseman for Wood in a heartbeat. Why would Houston reject a Wiseman trade? Young assets are probably exactly what they want.

When we signed Curry to something like a 4-42 extension, would you have given him up for a young prospect and hoped to hit again? Or would you have taken the currently successful player on a great contract and ran with it?

I dont think HOU is going to have much interest in trading Wood at all, and if they did, we wouldnt have much interest in paying that price

Wood's nice, but he's never going to the the number one on a contending team. We had already seen that Curry had that potential when he signed his deal, it was just a matter of getting his ankles & the coaching issues fixed.

That's what people said about Curry back then too.. took too many crazy shots, couldnt play defense, couldnt run a team.. no one is a #1 on a contending team until they are

Guy is putting up 22-10 with great efficiency and score all over the court.. sure looks like a potential #1 option to me. And even if not, a solid #2 gets the same treatment. You dont trade one of those on a great contract for a guy who *might* work out

[SAKURABA216]

What about Oubre & Wiseman for Jerami Grant?

I feel like he'd be exactly what we need, another long smart 2 way player in the dubs mold. I would imagine that there is also a Kerr connection with him having played with his uncle. Makes way more sense than Beal, who is smaller, more ball dominant, and doesn't have the same defensive tools.

Maybe for Jerami Grant and one of Saddiq Bey or Isaiah Stewart. Wiseman is a lot to give up without getting a center back in return. This would suck for Wiseman though because it seems like he needs someone like Draymond to help him develop. On the otherhand, Wiseman could also model his game after Blake and become an absolute monster.