The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall.

[cjbulls]

other than maybe his mobility, i think the biggest disconnect between people who hate this pick and people who are at least open to the idea of it working out is williams's shooting

i assume people just look at his 32% 3pt and read/hear that his outside shot is still a work in progress and assume "damn, no guarantee he's a good shooter..maybe if we're lucky he gets to league average." but to me, part of the appeal is that williams is easily projectable as a strong shooter. good ft%, good on long twos, weirdly weakest from the corners in college (which feels fluky or like he just needs to get more accustomed to that shot)

His form is also nothing special. I'm cautiously optimistic here, but assume his average outcome is that he will be an average shooter (by today's standards).

[nomorezorro]

yeah i guess i should say a strong catch-and-shoot option; he's almost certainly not gonna be a guy you bring off screens or anything. but still, there's knockdown stand-still potential there imo

[jStuNNa]

yeah i guess i should say a strong catch-and-shoot option; he's almost certainly not gonna be a guy you bring off screens or anything. but still, there's knockdown stand-still potential there imo

This is a complete guess on my part, but I don't expect Williams to be used predominantly in a 3 and D role. Though I agree that he's going to get a decent amount of shots as a stand-still shooter beyond the three point line, I have a feeling we're going to see him facing up and backing down a lot from mid-range, scoring off the bounce and pulling up.

[nomorezorro]

while i still maintain he's going to be playable at the three for the foreseeable future, in my head, an increasingly forceful undercurrent of everything i read and say about williams is "lauri markkanen is probably not a particularly useful piece long-term"

[Indomitable]

A day later, I've bought in to this pick a lot.

PatWill seems to have improved his body for the better already, and from what I've read, seems to have upside to potentially improve his foot-speed if he corrects physical imbalances. That's not to say I believe he can be an SF, still pretty wary on that one, seems like an unlikely possibility to me, but it should improve his game and his defensive versatility a bit more.

Combine that with the fact that he was really underutilized his freshman season and has shown really positive flashes as a passer/handler/pull-up shooter, there is a lot to like.

I see AK's vision now and I'm sorry I doubted him, if only for 24 hours, lol. I'm officially excited for this pick. Him and WCJ are going to form such an exciting back-court.

Front court right?

[johnnyvann840]

Also, showed great progress during his freshman season at FSU. Was a completely different player by March. Maybe we got lucky he didn't get a chance to show out in the Tourney.

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[NecessaryEvil]

PG-13/Kawhi vibes in those highlights

[Jahensle]

PG-13/Kawhi vibes in those highlights

I think he needs a year or two but he's gonna be really good.

[Ugly Duckling]

Williams is going to continue to be a tough sell, I think for those skeptical of the pick. Kornisovas seems absolutely set on the kid, so I am envisioning a real pillar of our team in a few years. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't put up a typical #4 pick's amount of minutes this year. His youth is a good thing, but we might not see this kid as a starter for a year or two.

Or what the hell do I know. I hope he comes out absolutely blasting on defense, and we can't keep him off the court.

No I think you're right. He's not going to see the floor much yr 1. He's not going to go from coming off the bench in college to starting in the pros. Yr 3 is where he should really begin to shine

[jStuNNa]

Williams is going to continue to be a tough sell, I think for those skeptical of the pick. Kornisovas seems absolutely set on the kid, so I am envisioning a real pillar of our team in a few years. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't put up a typical #4 pick's amount of minutes this year. His youth is a good thing, but we might not see this kid as a starter for a year or two.

Or what the hell do I know. I hope he comes out absolutely blasting on defense, and we can't keep him off the court.

No I think you're right. He's not going to see the floor much yr 1. He's not going to go from coming off the bench in college to starting in the pros. Yr 3 is where he should really begin to shine

The #4 pick in the draft better see the floor a lot, especially on a team that only won 22 games last season.

[johnnyvann840]

Williams is going to continue to be a tough sell, I think for those skeptical of the pick. Kornisovas seems absolutely set on the kid, so I am envisioning a real pillar of our team in a few years. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't put up a typical #4 pick's amount of minutes this year. His youth is a good thing, but we might not see this kid as a starter for a year or two.

Or what the hell do I know. I hope he comes out absolutely blasting on defense, and we can't keep him off the court.

No I think you're right. He's not going to see the floor much yr 1. He's not going to go from coming off the bench in college to starting in the pros. Yr 3 is where he should really begin to shine

The #4 pick in the draft better see the floor a lot, especially on a team that only won 22 games last season.

He should play significant minutes, but keep in mind the kid just turned 19 and was the youngest player in the draft and will be the youngest player in the NBA.

[thedarkstark]

That is a great point. We have too many indifferent/inflexible defenders. WCJ finally has someone who can help him out.

Okoro just would have been better. Haha

I don’t know man. This kid is three inches taller and I like the shot more.

But Okoro has no athleticism concerns defensively. He is an elite defender with quick feet and fluid hips that can truly guard 1-4. You just need him to develop a shot. I agree that Williams is certainly a better potential shooter and bigger, but that's not necessarily an advantage. I want a defensive wing over a defensive forward.

The front office has already said they don't want 1 way players, it's why they let Dunn and Shaq go, they only want versatile guys who can play positionless basketball and won't be a blackhole on offense.

[jStuNNa]

No I think you're right. He's not going to see the floor much yr 1. He's not going to go from coming off the bench in college to starting in the pros. Yr 3 is where he should really begin to shine

The #4 pick in the draft better see the floor a lot, especially on a team that only won 22 games last season.

He should play significant minutes, but keep in mind the kid just turned 19 and was the youngest player in the draft and will be the youngest player in the NBA.

Yeah, I'm not expecting him to be good every night but I am expecting Billy Donovan to give him a good amount of minutes.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Has anyone identified the other players in that lifetime fitness highlight?

Dinwiddie
OG (maybe)
Anyone else?

[Chi town]

while i still maintain he's going to be playable at the three for the foreseeable future, in my head, an increasingly forceful undercurrent of everything i read and say about williams is "lauri markkanen is probably not a particularly useful piece long-term"

Evs said at the 3 and small ball 4.

I think Lauri can play small ball stretch 5 with PW next to him at the 4.

[Chi town]

Has anyone identified the other players in that lifetime fitness highlight?

Dinwiddie
OG (maybe)
Anyone else?

I did pages back. Wiggins, Don Mitchell and Payton Pritchard.

[dougthonus]

I wouldn't be surprised either (but not remotely). But that shouldn't have been the concern here. We are pick 4, for the last time supposedly. Let's go for a star. It's not like we have some great core that we can't sacrifice. They are headed for the treadmill at a very fast pace unless they plan to quickly start making sacrifices, or we underestimate how bad Boylen was.

Who do you think that was left on the board had greater star potential? I think Patrick Williams is in that camp as much as any of these guys for the most part.

[cjbulls]

I don’t know man. This kid is three inches taller and I like the shot more.

But Okoro has no athleticism concerns defensively. He is an elite defender with quick feet and fluid hips that can truly guard 1-4. You just need him to develop a shot. I agree that Williams is certainly a better potential shooter and bigger, but that's not necessarily an advantage. I want a defensive wing over a defensive forward.

The front office has already said they don't want 1 way players, it's why they let Dunn and Shaq go, they only want versatile guys who can play positionless basketball and won't be a blackhole on offense.

Well there goes Zach, Lauri and WCJ. It’s going to be the Coby (maybe) and Otto show.

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He had about 15 moves in there that looked better than anything I saw in college.