Jabroni Lames wrote:DavidSterned wrote:Jabroni Lames wrote:
>>> 50%. Because Simmons can show precedent of players doing much worse things than he did today and that not being deemed “detrimental conduct”. He would have a very strong case to avoid the fine.
Not how it works, and no he cannot.
Dude, there is a entire section & provision in the CBA for filing grievances to dispute fines and suspensions, etc…. This is exactly how it works. You are 100.1 % wrong here.
That said, it would be pretty rare for an arbitrator to overturn team disciplinary action, but Simmons has a good case here. It’s nowhere near zero, like you were suggesting.
https://atlhawksfanatic.github.io/NBA-CBA/grievance-and-arbitration-procedure-and-special-procedures-with-respect-to-disputes-involving-player-discipline.html
You're implying that the "detrimental conduct" is some eternal gray area that isn't in fact clearly defined in the language of his contract. The fact is that in any NBA contract the conditions and terms for services rendered are clearly outlined and not really open to interpretation. Compliance with receiving coaching would be a pretty boilerplate, open/shut issue within the structure of his contract.
Yes, of course he has every right to file a grievance, that offers nothing about his chances of actual success with it. Forget pretty rare, are you in fact actually aware of any team disciplines that have been successfully arbitrated? I'm not.
You're also implying that Ben has ample ability to demonstrate any precedent here. He does not. The fact is that there have not been any similar situations to this within the Philadelphia organization in anyone's memory. So the argument that they're somehow applying a double standard to him here is just totally erroneous.
