Felton Signs With Knicks

[Diop]

All signs point to the new agreement causing smaller salaries, as mentioned in another thread, this appears to be the last summer to get vastly overpaid. I don't want to be one of the teams caught with one of these bloated contracts.

Felton is a solid Pg, even after a career year, I wouldn't call him a great point guard.

[doc.end]

I would happily welcome Devin Harris. Definitely one of my favorite players.

Really? I watched him a lot this year and I really wasn't blown away by him at all.

What is it about him/his game that you dig so much?

I kind of agree, maybe he could know how to win over Nets

[Walt Cronkite]

I would happily welcome Devin Harris. Definitely one of my favorite players.

Really? I watched him a lot this year and I really wasn't blown away by him at all.

What is it about him/his game that you dig so much?

This wasn't a good year to be a Harris fan, but it's just a general athleticism coupled with style of play. If given the option between Harris, Sessions and Ford, that would be my order of preference. I think they're all pretty similar in how they play, Harris is the least suspect defender.

[BigSlam]

Regardless of that last playoff performance, basing his value on the overall season he's worth 6 and could probably get more from us or another team when it's all said and done.

I wasn't basing my opinion on the playoffs though, I was basing it on watching him for 5 years. I mean, the playoffs were a factor, but only because they mirrored the majority of his career.

My stance would be that if another team wanted to pay him more, let them have at it. Better them than us IMO.

[BigSlam]

BigSlam, how can you offer less than what he made last season?

Because he was only worth what he was making last season and because this contract would give him longevity and financial security.

There isn't a rule in the CBA that I know of that insists a 2nd contract has to be larger than a rookie contract!

Then I will offer Felton 5 years/ $30 million with the 5th year as a team option.

Unless you are talking about a flat 6 mill per year, that would break out and pay him something like 7 mill in his last year with his 1st year right on about 5.

[nugentrk]

Yes, a flat 6 mill per year. Felton is probably the best PG in free agency.

[BigSlam]

Felton is probably the best PG in free agency.

That could be debatable but regardless, being the best of a bad bunch should not be a badge of honor or mean that teams should over pay for you IMO.

[SWedd523]

As far as Tony Parker goes, I'd definitely consider a S&T option with Felton, Jack, and Lexy for Parker, roger Mason, and a 1st rounder

[Rich4114]

As far as Tony Parker goes, I'd definitely consider a S&T option with Felton, Jack, and Lexy for Parker, roger Mason, and a 1st rounder

Um no? How the hell would Jack be worth Mason and a 1st? We'd need to get George Hill back if we're throwing them Jax, which they'd never do at this point since they're trying to get younger. Mason is a backup/role player.

[Tupik]

As far as Tony Parker goes, I'd definitely consider a S&T option with Felton, Jack, and Lexy for Parker, roger Mason, and a 1st rounder

Um no? How the hell would Jack be worth Mason and a 1st? We'd need to get George Hill back if we're throwing them Jax, which they'd never do at this point since they're trying to get younger. Mason is a backup/role player.

Except that Parker is waaayyyy better than Felton, it's not even close.
I think I would pull the trigger on this one.

[thruthefire]

Parker's easily the best player in that deal. He had a down year, but I'm confident he'll be back, and on our team, he's netting 25 per game.

+1 for that trade.

[Rich4114]

Who is our SG then?

I'd rather have Felton + Jax than Parker + Mason

[fatlever]

i think i would do parker for jax, but im pretty sure the spurs wouldnt.

hill had a nice playoffs, but he seems like more of a combo guard to me. best thing about hill is his emergence allows the spurs to limit the minutes for manu and parker in the regular season next year, giving the spurs another chance to do some damage in the post season. now they just need to get rid of that cancer named richard jefferson.

[countryboi]

in the nba you need one of two things to be a good team...either a dominate point guard or a dominate post player...great teams have both....good wing players are a dime a dozen...i would trade parker + mason for jax in a heart beat we always can replace capt jax

[SWedd523]

I suspect Jack's value is going to sink, very soon and very fast. He's 32 now and is on the books until the 12/13 season where he'll make $10 million as a 35 year old. I guess if you're fine with that then I'd understand why you'd complain about trading him for Tony Parker with an expiring contract next year.

Otherwise, we get the clear best player and upgrade the PG position AND get a dependable outside shooter (that played very well when he was given the minutes last year) AND a pick (albeit a late first, but hey) out of the deal.

I'd say that's pretty damn solid

[Walt Cronkite]

Eh, Jackson is already old and he's on this level, it's not like his game is dependent on the use of stifling athleticism. I don't see him sinking that far, but he's already not a no. 1 scoring option... so if we can move him for a guy with some potential or that is on a similar level with an earlier expiring contract, we probably ought to do it. We need to be good enough for the next 2 drafts to ensure we don't give the Bulls a lotto pick for Tyrus, Parker probably does that unless he gets hurt or something.

I like Mason, he probably fits in as a LB type player. He's probably a good enough defender and him and Parker are way better guard options than Felton and we don't have to worry about how Jackson will decline. As a bonus, we're in great shape to rebuild in a couple of seasons if LB decides to hang up his whistle or moves to LA or whatever.

[Rich4114]

I didn't realize Parker's got an expiring coming up. That changes things a bit.

How sad is it that we all want to go back to our expansion roster basically.

[Walt Cronkite]

BUT an expansion roster with full cap capabilities and a few prospects (though fewer draft picks)

[SWedd523]

Not that I disagree with you Walt, because you're correct, his offensive game truly depends on smarts moreso than athleticism, I was more referring to his age in other ways: it directly effect his defensive abilities (the Raja "lost a step" Bell effect), his ability to stay healthy and fight off nagging smaller injuries (the Greg "older than dirt" Oden effect), and might indirectly effect his offense in that his inability to stay tough on D and healthy in general might force him into chucking more (with goodhearted intentions of course) in hopes of making up for it.



I just don't want to be caught stuck with him when he's old and cantankerous and pulling in 10 mil. Maximize his value and move him for some pieces that can make us better in the short term AND long term.

[Walt Cronkite]

There are two players on the team I like enough to root for. I'm all for blowing this bad boy up, but we must maintain our general level of talent so we don't undo the hard work from this season.