OKC Thunder Offseason 2015

[bondom34]

I don't get why people hate our jerseys so much, I'm quite fond of them.

I am too, but these are good too, plus black ones would be awesome IMO.

[Balkman32]

Do you think Kanter would be okay being our 6th man?

I'd love to see this starting lineup:
PG: Russ
SG: Morrow/Roberson (vary it depending on match ups please)
SF: KD
PF: Serge
C: Adams

I'd then bring out KD and Adams first and let Russ and Kanter work the pick and roll.

What I love about this team is the flexibility now. Why can't we stagger lineups and use guys based on their strengths and opponents? For example, instead of forcing Roberson into a 3 and D role he's clearly not offensively ready for, bring him in as a defensive specialist. Some nights he gets 20 minutes and other nights zero. Thoughts?

I think that is our best starting lineup but Kanter's defense will kill us in the 2nd lineup.

The big question in my mind is why does okc think it can fix Kanter's defense when the Jazz spent 4 years and got nowhere?

I think Kanter has to start. Putting him next to Ibaka gives enough defense. Then bring Adams off the bench and you could even run Kd @ the 4 or Collison or McGary.

@ the 2 I think Roberson stays in the starting lineup. Because if he doesn'tt not start he might not play. I feel that he played a lot better last year. Crazy stat on him, he shot 18-45 from 3 on the road (40%) last year while 3-40 from 3 pt range @ home (7.5%).

[Balkman32]

As weird as it sounds, I'd debate trading back if Oubre wasn't available. I've talked about a pick swap w/ Toronto where they get PJ and Dion, OKC gets Ross, and they swap 14 for 20, some seem to like it on the trade board, others meh. Ross can at least shoot some and might be a solid KD backup if Oubre's not there.

It's not bad, but I'd rather just take BPA and play Lamb. Maybe I'm still irrationally high on him or I just like Ross less than most, but I don't think he's much of an upgrade. Supposedly the Spurs are going to shake up their roster, if Oubre's gone I wonder if Danny Green is available...

Take BPA. I think Lamb is gonna get some minutes this year. He is definitely apart of the plans this year.

Danny Green is available but the most we can offer is something like $3.5 mill because we will have the tax payers mid-level. If we sign a guy this way we will have to pawn off PJ3 and Novak to add the mid-level guy and the draft pick.

[Chuck Everett]

Anthony Grant is a good coach and the NBA seems more suited to his demeanor (more of a lead by example type, than a yeller).

[Balkman32]

Could the Thunder perform a sign and trade with moving Waiters, Lamb, Novak, and PJ3 to a tram for say a guy w/ a new 4 year 10 million deal?

[bondom34]

Could the Thunder perform a sign and trade with moving Waiters, Lamb, Novak, and PJ3 to a tram for say a guy w/ a new 4 year 10 million deal?

They're in the tax, so no. A taxpayer can't take a sign and trade.

[Balkman32]

What could Waiters, Lamb, Novak, PJ3 and the 14th overall pick get the Thunder at the 2 Guard Spot?

[bondom34]

What could Waiters, Lamb, Novak, PJ3 and the 14th overall pick get the Thunder at the 2 Guard Spot?

Probably about what the 14th pick would get. I'd rather a backup SF than a 2, they've got Roberson and Morrow covering that pretty well. I'd rather have someone better than Singler playing.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Could the Thunder perform a sign and trade with moving Waiters, Lamb, Novak, and PJ3 to a tram for say a guy w/ a new 4 year 10 million deal?

As bondom said, no S&T, but they could package them for a $10M contract and they would get the bird rights so they could re-sign them next year. They could also do it for a player in the last year of their rookie contract and then give them the 4 year extension. Similar to when they traded Harden and Houston signed him within 48 hours. If they feel they can get Lance Stephenson to return to form they could package players for his $9M contract that has a team option for 2015-2016. That would open some roster spots if they felt they needed and the Hornets would probably take anything for Stephenson at this point. If Stephenson didn't return to form it wouldn't be any worse than having Waiters and if he did it would be a huge boost for the next two years and maybe more if they re-signed him after 2016-2017.

They have some options and flexibility depending on how they feel about certain players. They can always take on a bad contract, like Stephenson, to open some roster spots. They could trade this year's draft pick, assuming it stays at 14, for a future pick that is unprotected. We tend to look at the roster and see it as full, but Presti is looking as it as assets that can be used to get what he wants/needs. Who expected him to get Kanter and Augustin for Reggie and Perkins? No one saw Perkins as anything other than dead weight that would reduce the return on Reggie. Especially with the way Reggie had been playing and acting. Yet, Presti took those assets that we didn't think looked good and turned them into the one thing everyone said OKC needed in an offensively gifted big man.

[bondom34]

Could the Thunder perform a sign and trade with moving Waiters, Lamb, Novak, and PJ3 to a tram for say a guy w/ a new 4 year 10 million deal?

As bondom said, no S&T, but they could package them for a $10M contract and they would get the bird rights so they could re-sign them next year. They could also do it for a player in the last year of their rookie contract and then give them the 4 year extension. Similar to when they traded Harden and Houston signed him within 48 hours. If they feel they can get Lance Stephenson to return to form they could package players for his $9M contract that has a team option for 2015-2016. That would open some roster spots if they felt they needed and the Hornets would probably take anything for Stephenson at this point. If Stephenson didn't return to form it wouldn't be any worse than having Waiters and if he did it would be a huge boost for the next two years and maybe more if they re-signed him after 2016-2017.

They have some options and flexibility depending on how they feel about certain players. They can always take on a bad contract, like Stephenson, to open some roster spots. They could trade this year's draft pick, assuming it stays at 14, for a future pick that is unprotected. We tend to look at the roster and see it as full, but Presti is looking as it as assets that can be used to get what he wants/needs. Who expected him to get Kanter and Augustin for Reggie and Perkins? No one saw Perkins as anything other than dead weight that would reduce the return on Reggie. Especially with the way Reggie had been playing and acting. Yet, Presti took those assets that we didn't think looked good and turned them into the one thing everyone said OKC needed in an offensively gifted big man.

I may steal this for the trade board....

[Kizz Fastfists]

What could Waiters, Lamb, Novak, PJ3 and the 14th overall pick get the Thunder at the 2 Guard Spot?

I think Waiters, Novak and PJ3 could get you Lance Stephenson. That might not seem like a big deal, but you are opening up two roster spots. Stephenson can play SG and SF and IF Stephenson returns to 2013-2014 form, or anything close to it, he's a huge upgrade. The worst possible outcome is he gives you similar production to Waiters.

Then at 14 Presti goes with BPA, which he will do anyway, and we just hope that happens to be a wing that can develop into someone that can play both SG and SF. I'm not worried about a SF backing up KD for 8-12 minutes a night. They can re-sign Singler for that or run Morrow, Roberson or someone else out there for those few minutes. The only time you're going to really notice a significant disadvantage if you throw Morrow on LeBron or 'Melo. Any other SF and he'll be adequate defensively for a few minutes.

[Kizz Fastfists]

I may steal this for the trade board....

Feel free. Steal all my ideas. The only catch is when an NBA GM offers you a job based on my brilliance you have to get me a job in the front office also.

[bondom34]

I'm trying it w/14, Lamb, Novak, and Dion. I'm bet Charlotte fans love it.

[bondom34]

Actually, may remove the pick...

[Kizz Fastfists]

Hornets fans will love it without the pick. With the pick they'll wish Presti was actually willing to offer that.

[Balkman32]

What could Waiters, Lamb, Novak, PJ3 and the 14th overall pick get the Thunder at the 2 Guard Spot?

I think Waiters, Novak and PJ3 could get you Lance Stephenson. That might not seem like a big deal, but you are opening up two roster spots. Stephenson can play SG and SF and IF Stephenson returns to 2013-2014 form, or anything close to it, he's a huge upgrade. The worst possible outcome is he gives you similar production to Waiters.

Then at 14 Presti goes with BPA, which he will do anyway, and we just hope that happens to be a wing that can develop into someone that can play both SG and SF. I'm not worried about a SF backing up KD for 8-12 minutes a night. They can re-sign Singler for that or run Morrow, Roberson or someone else out there for those few minutes. The only time you're going to really notice a significant disadvantage if you throw Morrow on LeBron or 'Melo. Any other SF and he'll be adequate defensively for a few minutes.

That's y they have Roberson and Huestis to put them on the best wing defender.

[bondom34]

Stolen from TF, got new alternates and I like em:

[QPR]

Not sure quantity =/= quality. I think the worst thing a team like Charlotte could do would be to swell their roster with average players.

Also agree with Kanter starting - he was such a force in first quarters in the last couple of months of the season it'd be a shame to waste that.

[kd 35]

Stolen from TF, got new alternates and I like em:

That's a fan-made concept. He's probably pretty close though without really knowing what it'll look like. Justin Peabody posts over on another forum I frequent - CCSLC. He's a Thunder fan as well. (One of us... One of us...)

This was from the NBA catalog that has been making its rounds today. You can see we are getting some form of an alternate. It makes sense to be an orange alternate since it describes the uniform as being able to be worn at home and on the road -- implying a lighter color.




I took a screenshot of a post he just made over there from his find in the catalog that shows what the "OKC" should look like:





I posted this in the around the NBA thread but this is our Christmas uniform. I like it!




Link to catalog:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/adidas-team/SLD_Licensed/NBA/2016/NBA_SP16_AP_INLINE/66A31D1C2A520A27C68D2E5C31CBA4D5/NBA-S16-PERFORMANCE-INLINE.pdf

Link to CCSLC thread:http://boards.sportslogos.net/topic/102242-nba-changes-2015-16-season/?p=2436228

Sorry for the lengthy post (and poor formatting) to those who don't care much about uniforms.

[QPR]

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