Mavs 2016 Offseason Discussion

daoneandonly · Post #81 » by **daoneandonly** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:32 pm

I live in the DC area, so Im well familair with Anderson (which is why I'm so hugh on him) and Beal (with his injury history, trust me we want no part of him). Plus Matthews struggles to a certain extent is on RC for playing him at the 3 to play midget ball, he is a 2 and only a 2.

Darren · Post #82 » by **Darren** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:02 am

Captain_Obvious wrote:My dream offseason is still: Beal/Whiteside(D12)/Matt Barnes

Whiteside/Meriji/Dirk
Dirk/Anderson/Powell
Matthews/Barnes/Anderson
Beal/Harris/JJ
Deron/JJ/Harris

Of course, I like Whiteside a lot. But I don't think he will choose Dallas. If he does, I am all for that. And by the way, I don't think we can pick up another impact player with Whiteside taking most of the cap room. Matt Barnes is a fine starting 3 (given the fact that we can't actually sign Beal to his market price). However, Barnes and Cuban hate each other. It is just not going to happen. By the way, I don't want us having both backup PGs on roster. They hurt the overall efficiency. One can't play defense. One is not consistent on both ends of the floor.

daoneandonly wrote:Festus Ezeli
Dirk Nowitzki
Justin Anderson
Wesley Matthews
Mike Conley Jr.

Mike Conley is coming off major injury. I am sure that we interest more on unicle juice than him. But I think it is a bit prime dream scenario. I don't see why he leaves Memphis. By the way, if we're forced to pick up Ezeli in ridiculous amount, we'd much better off sign Bohan outright at the same term. I have never seen a 7-foot-3, 290 lbs giant with soft touch and rebounding skills. Although he can only play 18 MPG, I root for him a lot more than the GSW backup which is easily replaced by undrafted rookie or overseas talent. He's not even as much a liability like Hibbert. He's quick and smart as hell. He does impact the floorgame. It requires 1.5 body to stop him. He changes the gravity of the floor.

Pointguard01 · Post #83 » by **Pointguard01** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:08 am

daoneandonly wrote:I live in the DC area, so Im well familair with Anderson (which is why I'm so hugh on him) and Beal (with his injury history, trust me we want no part of him). Plus Matthews struggles to a certain extent is on RC for playing him at the 3 to play midget ball, he is a 2 and only a 2.

Until Anderson improves his ball handling and passing, I think he is better off as a SF. Now, I really hope that he gets the majority of minutes as SG and SF next year in a backup role. I like what I've seen from him, and feel he can play both effectively.

daoneandonly · Post #84 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:03 pm

Pointguard01 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:I live in the DC area, so Im well familair with Anderson (which is why I'm so hugh on him) and Beal (with his injury history, trust me we want no part of him). Plus Matthews struggles to a certain extent is on RC for playing him at the 3 to play midget ball, he is a 2 and only a 2.

Until Anderson improves his ball handling and passing, I think he is better off as a SF. Now, I really hope that he gets the majority of minutes as SG and SF next year in a backup role. I like what I've seen from him, and feel he can play both effectively.

100% agree Anderson is our SF, but Matthews should be SF, he's our 2. yes his ball handling leaves a lot to be desired, but Anderson is better suited for the 3, and there's no need to play multiple pg's at once.

daoneandonly · Post #85 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:36 pm

Darren wrote:
Captain_Obvious wrote:My dream offseason is still: Beal/Whiteside(D12)/Matt Barnes

Whiteside/Meriji/Dirk
Dirk/Anderson/Powell
Matthews/Barnes/Anderson
Beal/Harris/JJ
Deron/JJ/Harris

Of course, I like Whiteside a lot. But I don't think he will choose Dallas. If he does, I am all for that. And by the way, I don't think we can pick up another impact player with Whiteside taking most of the cap room. Matt Barnes is a fine starting 3 (given the fact that we can't actually sign Beal to his market price). However, Barnes and Cuban hate each other. It is just not going to happen. By the way, I don't want us having both backup PGs on roster. They hurt the overall efficiency. One can't play defense. One is not consistent on both ends of the floor.

daoneandonly wrote:Festus Ezeli
Dirk Nowitzki
Justin Anderson
Wesley Matthews
Mike Conley Jr.

Mike Conley is coming off major injury. I am sure that we interest more on unicle juice than him. But I think it is a bit prime dream scenario. I don't see why he leaves Memphis. By the way, if we're forced to pick up Ezeli in ridiculous amount, we'd much better off sign Bohan outright at the same term. I have never seen a 7-foot-3, 290 lbs giant with soft touch and rebounding skills. Although he can only play 18 MPG, I root for him a lot more than the GSW backup which is easily replaced by undrafted rookie or overseas talent. He's not even as much a liability like Hibbert. He's quick and smart as hell. He does impact the floorgame. It requires 1.5 body to stop him. He changes the gravity of the floor.

Chandler Parsons is coming off yet another injury, with the caveat that he has no heart or D to begin with, so to me not resigning him is job #1 in our offseason. I honestly want him to be renounced, though we call know that won't happen. I hope you are not basing all this Boban love on that one night when the Mavs decided not to show up and he destroyed them. Pop isn't RC, if someone deserves several minutes he'll give it to them, so you have to figure if Boban was worth more, he'd get it.

Post #86 » by **Clyde Frazier** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:47 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DwainPrice/status/726115642105974785[/tweet]

Interesting... i'm now firm in my stance on letting parsons walk. Wonder what kinda deal they'll give dirk, and I wouldn't mind deron back on a short term deal. Although he did get pretty banged up later on in the season.

EDIT - and to put it simply on what they should let parsons walk, he hasn't cracked 70 games played in back to back seasons, and missed nearly all of the playoffs in both. No reason to take a risk on a long term deal with him when you have $ locked up in wes who’s still trying to get to 100%.

Post #87 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:58 pm

I believe what Cuban said and that he wants Parsons to be part of the future on our team.
Cuban views Parsons as an investment and while I may disagree with Cuban, I believe that he's being truthful.

Darren · Post #88 » by **Darren** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:41 am

I am surprised that Dirk does opt out of his deal.

Post #89 » by **Clyde Frazier** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:46 am

HMFFL wrote:I believe what Cuban said and that he wants Parsons to be part of the future on our team.
Cuban views Parsons as an investment and while I may disagree with Cuban, I believe that he's being truthful.

Ok i hadn't seen that specific comment. Here it is for anyone else who missed it:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/715329121006395392[/tweet]

So at least he's leaving it to the mavs doctors to advise him. That said, i still don't think it's worth the risk.

Captain_Obvious · Post #90 » by **Captain_Obvious** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:06 pm

Darren wrote:I am surprised that Dirk does opt out of his deal.

Same

He might actually leave if we rebuild

Soupman · Post #91 » by **Soupman** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:27 pm

Parsons is expected to opt-out. Same with Deron.The salary cap next year is projected to be $92m.Our 16-17 salary is $61m.
Do we have enough space for a maximum contract?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/DAL.html

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-mavericks/mavericks/2016/04/25/mavs-mark-cuban-will-evaluate-chandler-parsons-health-opts-offseason.

Darren · Post #92 » by **Darren** » Sun May 1, 2016 5:59 pm

If we want to be relevant, we have to spend most cap rooms on C-PG combo. That means Whiteside/Drummond and Irving/Conley and then a sixth man for cheap like Pierce. And of course, Dirk.

C - Hassan Whiteside / JaVale McGee / Salah Merji
PF - Dirk Nowitzki / Dwight Powell
SF - Paul Pierce / Justin Anderson
SG - Wes Matthews / Devin Harris
PG - Kyle Irving / Jose Barea / 47th pick

daoneandonly · Post #93 » by **daoneandonly** » Sun May 1, 2016 9:46 pm

There's not any way we could attain Irving, we have nothing to offer. I agree with Conley, but the more Miami advances, less likely Whitside leaves. Perhaps Ezeli if he wants a bigger role.

Darren · Post #94 » by **Darren** » Mon May 2, 2016 5:30 am

daoneandonly wrote:There's not any way we could attain Irving, we have nothing to offer. I agree with Conley, but the more Miami advances, less likely Whitside leaves. Perhaps Ezeli if he wants a bigger role.

Irving is indeed expiring. He will opt out of his contract. We don't need to make a trade. I've heard earlier he wants to be the face of a franchise. Clearly, he deserves that role a lot more than Parsons. Indeed, I want Batum at 3. Or Paul Pierce for a short run before Anderson takes over.

By the way, I would rather offer Jared Sullinger than Ezeli. Although he's listed 6-9, he averages 15+ PPG, 12+ RPG. He play great defense for Celtics. His shooting percentage is not good but he will improve once his conditioning is improved. If he can play C, I think he's a fine pick-up.

jpengland · Post #95 » by **jpengland** » Mon May 2, 2016 7:10 am

Darren wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:There's not any way we could attain Irving, we have nothing to offer. I agree with Conley, but the more Miami advances, less likely Whitside leaves. Perhaps Ezeli if he wants a bigger role.

Irving is indeed expiring. He will opt out of his contract. We don't need to make a trade. I've heard earlier he wants to be the face of a franchise. Clearly, he deserves that role a lot more than Parsons. Indeed, I want Batum at 3. Or Paul Pierce for a short run before Anderson takes over.

By the way, I would rather offer Jared Sullinger than Ezeli. Although he's listed 6-9, he averages 15+ PPG, 12+ RPG. He play great defense for Celtics. His shooting percentage is not good but he will improve once his conditioning is improved. If he can play C, I think he's a fine pick-up.

Irving is not leaving Cleveland and if he does, he's looking at 25m per plus.

Whiteside will be getting his max too.

Neither will come here and even if they wanted to, we couldn't afford both.

It's time to step back into reality. The only big name free agent who is realistic is Dwight.

jpengland · Post #96 » by **jpengland** » Mon May 2, 2016 7:12 am

Darren wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:There's not any way we could attain Irving, we have nothing to offer. I agree with Conley, but the more Miami advances, less likely Whitside leaves. Perhaps Ezeli if he wants a bigger role.

Irving is indeed expiring. He will opt out of his contract. We don't need to make a trade. I've heard earlier he wants to be the face of a franchise. Clearly, he deserves that role a lot more than Parsons. Indeed, I want Batum at 3. Or Paul Pierce for a short run before Anderson takes over.

By the way, I would rather offer Jared Sullinger than Ezeli. Although he's listed 6-9, he averages 15+ PPG, 12+ RPG. He play great defense for Celtics. His shooting percentage is not good but he will improve once his conditioning is improved. If he can play C, I think he's a fine pick-up.

As for Sullinger, no no and no again. Awful fit next to dirk. He's overweight, undersized, can't protect the rim and enjoys chucking from deep. One to avoid, especially as, again, he's looking at 10m per.

Post #97 » by **Dirk** » Mon May 2, 2016 11:54 am

jpengland wrote:
Darren wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:There's not any way we could attain Irving, we have nothing to offer. I agree with Conley, but the more Miami advances, less likely Whitside leaves. Perhaps Ezeli if he wants a bigger role.

Irving is indeed expiring. He will opt out of his contract. We don't need to make a trade. I've heard earlier he wants to be the face of a franchise. Clearly, he deserves that role a lot more than Parsons. Indeed, I want Batum at 3. Or Paul Pierce for a short run before Anderson takes over.

By the way, I would rather offer Jared Sullinger than Ezeli. Although he's listed 6-9, he averages 15+ PPG, 12+ RPG. He play great defense for Celtics. His shooting percentage is not good but he will improve once his conditioning is improved. If he can play C, I think he's a fine pick-up.

Irving is not leaving Cleveland and if he does, he's looking at 25m per plus.

Whiteside will be getting his max too.

Neither will come here and even if they wanted to, we couldn't afford both.

It's time to step back into reality. The only big name free agent who is realistic is Dwight.

The thing is, Irving is not an expiring contract, he signed a 5 year / $94,343,126 contract with the Cavaliers.

Jared Sullinger is a fat guy looking to get paid. His best asset is being a stretch 5 who shoots horribly. The Mavs need a rim protector and go from there. They don't need to be paying big money to any jump shooting PF/C. His regular season numbers are bad... and he barely played in the playoffs: 13.5 mpg, .310 fg%.

fuller4379 · Post #98 » by **fuller4379** » Mon May 2, 2016 1:25 pm

Darren wrote:I am surprised that Dirk does opt out of his deal.

Not me. It gives him the leverage to leave if Nelson can't sign decent players to go around him this offseason.

Post #99 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon May 2, 2016 2:00 pm

If Dirk opts out its simply to give the Mavs more flexibility--not to leave. Everyone needs to relax--he's not going anywhere.

aussiewill · Post #100 » by **aussiewill** » Mon May 2, 2016 2:44 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/nba/rumors/post/_/id/37690/nba-rumor-central-nowitzki-parsons-to-join-free-market

Looks like we will have a boat load of cap space. Be interesting if we want to bring back Parsons and Williams with their injury concerns. Looking at nearly 60+ million in cap space by renouncing everyone, going to be a fun offseason for the players either way.