2017 Hawks Offseason Thread

[HMFFL]

The Cavs have also denied permission to the Atlanta Hawks for Griffin to interview for their open general manager position, sources said. Griffin, whose contract expires at the end of July, has recently held talks with Cavs owner Dan Gilbert about his future with the team but nothing had been agreed to as of Monday afternoon, sources said.
– via ESPN

Good. I don't feel comfortable with Griffin anyway. Think we can do better with someone else.

How would you feel about Chauncey Billups?

[Jamaaliver]

How would you feel about Chauncey Billups?

Not sure if this is specifically at Geaux...

I'd be open to Billups' perspective and analysis, but not granting him the position of GM or head of Basketball Ops.

I suspect he could be a solid scout and identify what players could mesh well. But the GM/PBO needs to have a certain business savvy and cutthroat approach I'm not certain he possesses.

Our GM should already be prepping for Summer 2018. Identifying what contracts will be tradable, what Free Agents are on the horizon.

We have to start thinking long term as a front office -- not simply what roster we can field this fall. I've never gotten the feeling that Billups thinks three or four steps ahead. Budenholzer certainly didn't. And we're left in this lurch because of that short-sightedness.

Also, I'd prefer someone more experienced in business/personnel/negotiating matters.

[HMFFL]

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I read an article that we intend on interviewing Chauncey Billups for the GM position.
I have watched him on ESPN very little since I don't have much free time or care to dedicate time to ESPN in that way. When I have seen him on their network it's more of the group joking around.

I also believe he signed an extension with ESPN within the last month so I doubt he leaves his position unless an NBA team does offer him a GM position.

[Geaux_Hawks]

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I read an article that we intend on interviewing Chauncey Billups for the GM position.
I have watched him on ESPN very little since I don't have much free time or care to dedicate time to ESPN in that way. When I have seen him on their network it's more of the group joking around.

I also believe he signed an extension with ESPN within the last month so I doubt he leaves his position unless an NBA team does offer him a GM position.

He did sign an extension like 2 weeks ago I believe.

Billups usually has a good idea of what he is talking about on ESPN, and of course his IQ was very high on the court.

I like Chauncey more as a scout or like an assistant GM though, but if we get a POB with some experience in that capacity, then I would let Billups be the GM. So Billups more or less gets to have his input on players, and maybe acts as a bridge between young players and the coaching staff. Buds may not play rookies to often because he may not be able to relate to them. Chauncey being a recently retired guy, knows how operate in a locker room.

[tbhawksfan1]

Portland might be interested in Howard, especially if they can reduce cap. They have 3 first in this draft. They also have what they consider to be bad contracts. If we we're willing to take a couple of them, we can pry at least one of those firsts from them. M Leonard is a bust PF, but still very young. E Turner is Baze bad as afar as play and contract. PORT fans seem to think getting rid of them is worth losing a first.

OKC could be enticed to move Kanter, who they don't like and he is over-paid and they want to play Adams. Give them a little cap relief and they might move Kanter for Baze.

These moves take back salary, but the Hawks get younger and they bring in some guys that might benefit from Budball. Turner doesn't fit, but #20 is worth it

We aren't going to get anything out of Sap. No S&T, no increced production if re-signed.

Hawks have to make some moves to avoid things getting really ugly

[Jamaaliver]

Portland might be interested in Howard, especially if they can reduce cap. They have 3 first in this draft. They also have what they consider to be bad contracts. If we we're willing to take a couple of them, we can pry at least one of those firsts from them. M Leonard is a bust PF, but still very young. E Turner is Baze bad as afar as play and contract. PORT fans seem to think getting rid of them is worth losing a first.

OKC could be enticed to move Kanter, who they don't like and he is over-paid and they want to play Adams. Give them a little cap relief and they might move Kanter for Baze.

These moves take back salary, but the Hawks get younger and they bring in some guys that might benefit from Budball. Turner doesn't fit, but #20 is worth it

We aren't going to get anything out of Sap. No S&T, no increced production if re-signed.

Hawks have to make some moves to avoid things getting really ugly

Jamaaliver likes this. You sound like Braves GM john coppolella.

[Jamaaliver]

Only two years ago, the Hawks won 60 games and garnered the title Spurs East. How things have changed. The Hawks now fall in the morass of NBA teams unable to compete, but also a bit too talented to blow it up and rebuild. This paradox haunts many franchises, but the Hawks have become the model Perpetually Middling Seed.

In the wake of Millsap’s likely departure, Atlanta seems desperate to find a course of action sooner rather than later, which brings us to its vacant recently filled general manager position.

...the Millsap conundrum is real. He could be gone unless the new front office convinces him to believe in this roster, and while Dennis Schröder is a solid player, he and Millsap alone are not nearly enough to carry a team into title contention when LeBron is still in the conference.

As they reshape their front office and take stock of what they have heading into next season, they’ll have to make the decision that plagues most teams in their class. Do they recharge or do they rebuild?

The Ringer

[Jamaaliver]

Schlenk may have just dropped a hint about his intentions this summer:

Things were kind of running themselves in Golden State. We [had] a young core, a successful young core, put together...Here, we have to get that situation. Even though they’ve been to the playoffs, they haven’t had a ton of success. Other than the one trip to the Eastern Conference finals, they’ve been first round and out, a couple second round and out. How do we get the next step?

It’s a big summer with free agency out there. It’s a team that could have a lot of cap space depending on how we put it together...the goal is to find another Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green.

We’ve got to be diligent with our picks. We’ve got to be diligent with the guys we sign in free agency. One of the things we did in Golden State is we avoided signing bad contracts

myAJC


Young core?

Could have a lot of cap space?

Avoiding bad contracts?


He's spelling it all out. The only way to get younger, have cap space, avoid bad contracts is to let Millsap walk this summer.
Let's see how this all plays out.

[tbhawksfan1]

Schlenk may have just dropped a hint about his intentions this summer:

Things were kind of running themselves in Golden State. We [had] a young core, a successful young core, put together...Here, we have to get that situation. Even though they’ve been to the playoffs, they haven’t had a ton of success. Other than the one trip to the Eastern Conference finals, they’ve been first round and out, a couple second round and out. How do we get the next step?

It’s a big summer with free agency out there. It’s a team that could have a lot of cap space depending on how we put it together...the goal is to find another Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green.

We’ve got to be diligent with our picks. We’ve got to be diligent with the guys we sign in free agency. One of the things we did in Golden State is we avoided signing bad contracts

myAJC


Young core?

Could have a lot of cap space?

Avoiding bad contracts?


He's spelling it all out. The only way to get younger, have cap space, avoid bad contracts is to let Millsap walk this summer.
Let's see how this all plays out.

Yes, Thank you SBJ!

[tbhawksfan1]

young core, cap management, draft picks, no bad contracts...speaking my language

[tbhawksfan1]

you know Schlenk likes his shooters. I think he and Bud are going to speak the same language and shape the team up quickly

[Yungsta404]

So far I like what schlenk is saying, its nice to have a gm in place who has interest in the hawks long term future as oppose to Mike "the future is now" Bud.

Now lets see what he actually does in the off season.

[Jamaaliver]

Cleveland quickly disposed of Boston in five games and a large part of that was due to frontcourt play. Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson caused problems for Boston during the entirety of the series, whether it was rim protection, rebounding, or just being a force inside. The Cavs' interior was better than Boston's in every way. Which is why the Celtics are prepared to make some serious upgrades.

CBS Sports


Multiple league sources have told CSNNE.com in recent weeks that the Celtics are focused on landing an All-Star caliber talent in the frontcourt.

That makes sense when you consider how guard-dominant the Celtics were this season and how that had a negative impact on the team's rebounding and, to a lesser degree, their defense as a whole."

CSNNE


If Boston goes chasing an All Star big man this summer, I have to imagine they'll kick the tires on Millsap -- should they pass/strike-out on Blake and Gordon.

Losing both Millsap and Horford...to Boston -- without getting anything in return -- would be heartbreaking. Devastating.

Nauseating.

[MaceCase]

Boston will always be at a disadvantage against the Cavs as long as you-know-who occupies their front court. But if they want to continue in their quest to reproduce Hawks North, so be it.

[jayu70]

We've seen what the Millsap/Horford has looked liked against the Cavs for 2 straight playoffs. I don't think they'll be like fine wine and be better against the Cavs 2 years later with them.

[dms269]

Let them pay 30M+ a year for Millsap. Have fun with that.

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[tbhawksfan1]

Hope Schlenk's plan works as well as Ainge's

[Jamaaliver]

The Portland Trail Blazers own three first round picks this year and are willing to part ways with one of them in order to remove one of their unwanted contracts from their books.

The Blazers re-signed Allen Crabbe, Meyers Leonard and Maurice Harkless last offseason, while also adding Evan Turner and Festus Ezeli in free agency. The Blazers will waive Ezeli in the offseason.Via Keith Smith/RealGM

RealGM


1) I fear that if we re-sign THJ and Millsap to high dollar contracts, this is what awaits us in future summers. Paying other teams just to take bad contracts off our hands.

2) With that said, I'd be willing to take on a couple of their dumb signings for a top 15 draft pick. Lose Millsap and THJ, but send us Moe Harkless and Meyers Leonard along with #15 overall.

3) The obvious trade partner will be Brooklyn. They offered a lavish contract to Crabbe just last year, possess plenty of cap space, have difficulty signing top free agents and need a higher draft pick.

[Geaux_Hawks]

The Portland Trail Blazers own three first round picks this year and are willing to part ways with one of them in order to remove one of their unwanted contracts from their books.

The Blazers re-signed Allen Crabbe, Meyers Leonard and Maurice Harkless last offseason, while also adding Evan Turner and Festus Ezeli in free agency. The Blazers will waive Ezeli in the offseason.Via Keith Smith/RealGM

RealGM


1) I fear that if we re-sign THJ and Millsap to high dollar contracts, this is what awaits us in future summers. Paying other teams just to take bad contracts off our hands.

2) With that said, I'd be willing to take on a couple of their dumb signings for a top 15 draft pick. Lose Millsap and THJ, but send us Moe Harkless and Meyers Leonard along with #15 overall.

3) The obvious trade partner will be Brooklyn. They offered a lavish contract to Crabbe just last year, possess plenty of cap space, have difficulty signing top free agents and need a higher draft pick.

Think Brooklyn has to wait for the new year to start before they can go after Crabbe, unless someone gets creative and use small assets to set up a future trade that essentially gives Brooklyn the 1st they want and Crabbe later.

[Jamaaliver]

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