FGA restricted all time fantasy draft meta thread. 2 MORE JUDGES NEEDED FOR PLAYOFFS

[ardee]

Here's the draft order. Doctor MJ can start things off whenever is good for him.

What kind of windows are we looking at? I think 8 hours should be cool?

[BasketballFan7]

Also, are 2017 seasons permitted or no?

These are based on RS, so yes, I would say let's use it. Even though the judges can use Playoffs as a part of the evaluation, the Playoffs will be over by the time our Playoffs start.

[eminence]

Full snake draft order? I know sometimes on the T&T board they go ABBA to even out the first pick advantage a bit more (promise not saying just cause I'm pick #13).

[ardee]

Full snake draft order? I know sometimes on the T&T board they go ABBA to even out the first pick advantage a bit more (promise not saying just cause I'm pick #13).

I think snake just works. ABBA is a little too extreme IMO. The first guy gets badly screwed. It'd help me too at 10 but just trying to be fair.

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[eminence]

Full snake draft order? I know sometimes on the T&T board they go ABBA to even out the first pick advantage a bit more (promise not saying just cause I'm pick #13).

I think snake just works. ABBA is a little too extreme IMO. The first guy gets badly screwed. It'd help me too at 10 but just trying to be fair.

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Fine enough by me, though I think badly screwed oversells it by quite a lot.

[ardee]

Full snake draft order? I know sometimes on the T&T board they go ABBA to even out the first pick advantage a bit more (promise not saying just cause I'm pick #13).

I think snake just works. ABBA is a little too extreme IMO. The first guy gets badly screwed. It'd help me too at 10 but just trying to be fair.

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Fine enough by me, though I think badly screwed oversells it by quite a lot.

Maybe it's just me but I think getting the no. 1 pick in snake in an all time draft is rough. The dropoff from 1 to 15 is much smaller than the dropoff from 18 to 32.

In the last one I competed in, the guy picking 1st got Jordan and then I think Marques Johnson at 32. The guy picking 16 and 17 got Doc and Karl Malone.

Considering it's peaks, I think the second duo is clearly better.

Getting 13-16 is the best spots to be in.

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[BasketballFan7]

I think snake just works. ABBA is a little too extreme IMO. The first guy gets badly screwed. It'd help me too at 10 but just trying to be fair.

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Fine enough by me, though I think badly screwed oversells it by quite a lot.

Maybe it's just me but I think getting the no. 1 pick in snake in an all time draft is rough. The dropoff from 1 to 15 is much smaller than the dropoff from 18 to 32.

In the last one I competed in, the guy picking 1st got Jordan and then I think Marques Johnson at 32. The guy picking 16 and 17 got Doc and Karl Malone.

Considering it's peaks, I think the second duo is clearly better.

Getting 13-16 is the best spots to be in.

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I agree with you. I am happy with pick #3, but picking later can be seen as superior.

[Dr Spaceman]

I think snake just works. ABBA is a little too extreme IMO. The first guy gets badly screwed. It'd help me too at 10 but just trying to be fair.

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Fine enough by me, though I think badly screwed oversells it by quite a lot.

Maybe it's just me but I think getting the no. 1 pick in snake in an all time draft is rough. The dropoff from 1 to 15 is much smaller than the dropoff from 18 to 32.

In the last one I competed in, the guy picking 1st got Jordan and then I think Marques Johnson at 32. The guy picking 16 and 17 got Doc and Karl Malone.

Considering it's peaks, I think the second duo is clearly better.

Getting 13-16 is the best spots to be in.

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Wanna set another thread as the draft thread? You can quote Doc MJ in the primary post. That way things stay organized

[ardee]

Fine enough by me, though I think badly screwed oversells it by quite a lot.

Maybe it's just me but I think getting the no. 1 pick in snake in an all time draft is rough. The dropoff from 1 to 15 is much smaller than the dropoff from 18 to 32.

In the last one I competed in, the guy picking 1st got Jordan and then I think Marques Johnson at 32. The guy picking 16 and 17 got Doc and Karl Malone.

Considering it's peaks, I think the second duo is clearly better.

Getting 13-16 is the best spots to be in.

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Wanna set another thread as the draft thread? You can quote Doc MJ in the primary post. That way things stay organized

I will, one last thing. What do you think of a minimum games played. I was thinking 50/82 and the equivalent for shortened seasons?

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[Dr Spaceman]

Maybe it's just me but I think getting the no. 1 pick in snake in an all time draft is rough. The dropoff from 1 to 15 is much smaller than the dropoff from 18 to 32.

In the last one I competed in, the guy picking 1st got Jordan and then I think Marques Johnson at 32. The guy picking 16 and 17 got Doc and Karl Malone.

Considering it's peaks, I think the second duo is clearly better.

Getting 13-16 is the best spots to be in.

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Wanna set another thread as the draft thread? You can quote Doc MJ in the primary post. That way things stay organized

I will, one last thing. What do you think of a minimum games played. I was thinking 50/82 and the equivalent for shortened seasons?

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What would be the purpose of this rule? Is it just so judges don't have to deal with questions of health? If so, it makes sense.

[ardee]

Wanna set another thread as the draft thread? You can quote Doc MJ in the primary post. That way things stay organized

I will, one last thing. What do you think of a minimum games played. I was thinking 50/82 and the equivalent for shortened seasons?

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What would be the purpose of this rule? Is it just so judges don't have to deal with questions of health? If so, it makes sense.

Essentially yes.

Ok, making the thread now.

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[GeorgeMarcus]

Works for me. Are we using a random number generator to establish the draft order?

[ardee]

Works for me. Are we using a random number generator to establish the draft order?

Yes, that was already done. I made the draft thread, check it out.

[ardee]

One more thing. When you make your pick, could you quote the person next in line to let them know they're on the clock?

[Quotatious]

PS: Can a mod sticky this?

Done. I've stickied the meta thread, too.

At first I didn't like the 15th pick, because I would prefer to have a GOAT caliber player, but on the other hand, I'll still get two top 20 all-timers with those almost back-to-back picks, there's a great chance I can predict who will be available for both of my picks, so I like that, too. Worst thing would be having a mid-round pick, like 7th or 8th and then waiting so long for another one.

[ardee]

PS: Can a mod sticky this?

Done. I've stickied the meta thread, too.

At first I didn't like the 15th pick, because I would prefer to have a GOAT caliber player, but on the other hand, I'll still get two top 20 all-timers with those almost back-to-back picks, so I like that, too. Worst thing would be having a mid-round pick, like 7th or 8th and then waiting so long for another one.

Trust me, 13-16 is the best niche of picks to have in snake.

[lorak]

Worst thing would be having a mid-round pick, like 7th or 8th and then waiting so long for another one.

You don't say...

[ardee]

I think we should just keep this thread to draft picks and discuss everything else in the meta thread. Quotatious, can you move these posts?

[Dr Spaceman]

Also, just in case people don't know: click the wrench-like button at the bottom of the thread next to "post reply" and you can subscribe to the topic, which means you get notified every time there's a new post.

EDIT: I'm referring to the draft thread of course

[ronnymac2]

Full judge's disclosure before posters start picking:

1. I'm pretty lenient about pre-1980 players using the 3-point shot effectively. I mean, keep it within reason. Don't tell me your guy is making 5 3-pointers per game at a 45% clip. But all you need to do is point to some basic evidence that a guy would be at least a threat from 3-point range, and I'll probably be cool with that.

2. I'm pretty familiar with most ABA guys, especially the ones that will likely be useable in a tourney like this. There are a few hidden gems in the ABA that are perfect for this format actually.

3. I appreciate 3-point shooting to create spacing, but I also appreciate creating spacing through means other than 3-point shooting. Pick-n-roll finishers, cutters, offensive rebounding machines, great passers, floor generals, elite screen-setters, etc.

4. Pre-shot clock players who proved they were great against 1960's megastars are cool. I am skeptical about pre-shot clock players who did not compete against 1960's megastars or who looked way worse once 1960's megastars entered the fray. It doesn't mean I'm not open to them excelling in certain roles here if explained well enough.

5. Have fun. Talk trash. Learn. Build some sweet-ass teams. Enjoy.