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Da_Mane_Man wrote:egelband wrote:Might be best to hold Melo. Let everyone sweat a bit. Knicks hold the cards. Doesn't Melo have a couple years left on his deal?
He would put a team over the top and Melo probably is desperate to bolt. Just let it simmer.
What about team chemistry? Or f*ck that sh*t, right?
Da_Mane_Man wrote:Greenie wrote:"There have been (unfounded) rumors that Carmelo, for whatever reason, didn’t like Lin, and this quote from Melo about Lin in February was certainly suspicious. So it’s easy for some people to see Melo saying Lin is being offered a “ridiculous contract” and interpret it as a shot at the unproven Lin. But that’s simply not the case here. (Especially because Carmelo added, “I’d love to see him back, but I think he has to do what’s best for him right now.”)"
But that could easily be a LIE he threw in at the end of his answer because he realized that what he just said before that would sound bad. Whereas numerous reports from writers, as well as D'Antoni and Amare interviews years later, all saying the same thing, kind of can't be lies.
whocares1 wrote:Greenie wrote:
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/7/15/3161419/jr-smith-jeremy-lin-contract-knicks-rockets
"I'm sure the city would love to have him back, but the team decided to go in a different direction," Smith said. "It's nothing personal, I don't think, just business. We just hope everybody can benefit from here.
"I don't really know how Mr. Dolan feels at this point with what the luxury tax is now and what it used to be, but I just hope it works out the best for both of them."
Asked if Lin's contract could cause a challenging dynamic with his teammates, Smith agreed.
"Without a doubt," he said. "I think some guys take it personal, because they've been doing it longer and haven't received any reward for it yet. I think it's a tough subject to touch on for a lot of guys."
Melo is 1 on a roster of many. Everything that went down didn't involve him.
It absolutely wasn't just Melo, but he's the example. He's the face of the team and a leader in the players association. Jeremy Lin getting overpaid should not have had teammates angry at him. That J.R Smith comment is unsettling because it implies zero allegiance to Lin from a lot of Knicks teammates besides the guys that were getting paid the big bucks already.
drekwins wrote:whocares1 wrote:Greenie wrote:https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/7/15/3161419/jr-smith-jeremy-lin-contract-knicks-rockets
"I'm sure the city would love to have him back, but the team decided to go in a different direction," Smith said. "It's nothing personal, I don't think, just business. We just hope everybody can benefit from here.
"I don't really know how Mr. Dolan feels at this point with what the luxury tax is now and what it used to be, but I just hope it works out the best for both of them."
Asked if Lin's contract could cause a challenging dynamic with his teammates, Smith agreed.
"Without a doubt," he said. "I think some guys take it personal, because they've been doing it longer and haven't received any reward for it yet. I think it's a tough subject to touch on for a lot of guys."
Melo is 1 on a roster of many. Everything that went down didn't involve him.
It absolutely wasn't just Melo, but he's the example. He's the face of the team and a leader in the players association. Jeremy Lin getting overpaid should not have had teammates angry at him. That J.R Smith comment is unsettling because it implies zero allegiance to Lin from a lot of Knicks teammates besides the guys that were getting paid the big bucks already.
Funny, because D'Antoni has said that Lin's supportera were the role players that desired to play the right way. The leaders didn't like Lin.
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2016/07/13/how-carmelo-amare-pushed-jeremy-lin-out-mike-dantoni/amp/
drekwins wrote:whocares1 wrote:Greenie wrote:https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/7/15/3161419/jr-smith-jeremy-lin-contract-knicks-rockets
"I'm sure the city would love to have him back, but the team decided to go in a different direction," Smith said. "It's nothing personal, I don't think, just business. We just hope everybody can benefit from here.
"I don't really know how Mr. Dolan feels at this point with what the luxury tax is now and what it used to be, but I just hope it works out the best for both of them."
Asked if Lin's contract could cause a challenging dynamic with his teammates, Smith agreed.
"Without a doubt," he said. "I think some guys take it personal, because they've been doing it longer and haven't received any reward for it yet. I think it's a tough subject to touch on for a lot of guys."
Melo is 1 on a roster of many. Everything that went down didn't involve him.
It absolutely wasn't just Melo, but he's the example. He's the face of the team and a leader in the players association. Jeremy Lin getting overpaid should not have had teammates angry at him. That J.R Smith comment is unsettling because it implies zero allegiance to Lin from a lot of Knicks teammates besides the guys that were getting paid the big bucks already.
Funny, because D'Antoni has said that Lin's supportera were the role players that desired to play the right way. The leaders didn't like Lin.
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2016/07/13/how-carmelo-amare-pushed-jeremy-lin-out-mike-dantoni/amp/
“Relationships deteriorated where I couldn’t get the most out of people. Take me away and they’ll up their game.”
Greenie wrote:That whole Lin thing is exactly why NY media sucks. He was talking about the set up of tge contract and still said he wants him back.
But no, just post that he said it's ridiculous. Without context on what he's saying.
Jeffrey wrote:I believe Dolan or executives told Lin to get an offer and they will match it. Lin even said that when he signed with Houston and said he was surprised that the Knicks didn't match.
Thugger HBC wrote:Greenie wrote:That whole Lin thing is exactly why NY media sucks. He was talking about the set up of tge contract and still said he wants him back.
But no, just post that he said it's ridiculous. Without context on what he's saying.
Why would a player calls a another players contract ridiculous? The poison pill is part of the contract, so yes he is talking about the contract. he shouldn't be talking about a fellow member's money. And if the Knicks matched it, melo's not paying it, so why talk about it? That's the issue and it was said. JR did, so did Novak as well.
Sure Melo did want Lin back, he said that as well. but you want to mask the wrong with the kind words.
The media has nothing to do with the words melo uttered.
Thugger HBC wrote:Greenie wrote:That whole Lin thing is exactly why NY media sucks. He was talking about the set up of tge contract and still said he wants him back.
But no, just post that he said it's ridiculous. Without context on what he's saying.
Why would a player calls a another players contract ridiculous? The poison pill is part of the contract, so yes he is talking about the contract. he shouldn't be talking about a fellow member's money. And if the Knicks matched it, melo's not paying it, so why talk about it? That's the issue and it was said. JR did, so did Novak as well.
Sure Melo did want Lin back, he said that as well. but you want to mask the wrong with the kind words.
The media has nothing to do with the words melo uttered.
Jeffrey wrote:The irony of this all... Lin would've been a good PG with the Knicks had they matched his offer. After all these years, going through all those PGs, we had one in our hands for a second.
drekwins wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Greenie wrote:That whole Lin thing is exactly why NY media sucks. He was talking about the set up of tge contract and still said he wants him back.
But no, just post that he said it's ridiculous. Without context on what he's saying.
Why would a player calls a another players contract ridiculous? The poison pill is part of the contract, so yes he is talking about the contract. he shouldn't be talking about a fellow member's money. And if the Knicks matched it, melo's not paying it, so why talk about it? That's the issue and it was said. JR did, so did Novak as well.
Sure Melo did want Lin back, he said that as well. but you want to mask the wrong with the kind words.
The media has nothing to do with the words melo uttered.
Melos always been very good at avoiding the headline via a quote or word choice. No one handles the media like him. Something inside him wanted to add his own feelings into the Lin contract. He couldn't even help himself.
selenium wrote:players in the NBA generally dont rag on other people's contracts
Except when its a "minority" dude who stole everyone's thunder.
Greenie wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Greenie wrote:That whole Lin thing is exactly why NY media sucks. He was talking about the set up of tge contract and still said he wants him back.
But no, just post that he said it's ridiculous. Without context on what he's saying.
Why would a player calls a another players contract ridiculous? The poison pill is part of the contract, so yes he is talking about the contract. he shouldn't be talking about a fellow member's money. And if the Knicks matched it, melo's not paying it, so why talk about it? That's the issue and it was said. JR did, so did Novak as well.
Sure Melo did want Lin back, he said that as well. but you want to mask the wrong with the kind words.
The media has nothing to do with the words melo uttered.
The set up was ridiculous.
We were expected to match Lin until the poison pill. I had never even heard of a "poison pill". People had to explain what it was. This was the first full offseason under the new CBA.
Lin was about to cost Dolan $60 million out of pocket ALONE. The crap was silly. Looking back Melo should have shut up but dude was talking about how Houston set that **** up to make it hard to match.
RIP mags