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Post#81 » by Scizzup » Fri May 11, 2018 5:49 pm

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I don't think a Bud engineered offense can suffice without having at least one high IQ player operating down low.

We have Ibaka.

Yep, Ibaka is the biggest problem

DeRozan too though. Bud's system generally relies on their SG being an outside threat


it relies more on bigs that can pass. Horford/Millsap were better than this Lowry/Derozan. Coach Bud isn't coaching this team to better success in playoffs with a Lowry/Derozan/Ibaka core. I wouldn't be suprised if Casey gets Bucks coaching job and they add a player and they beat Raps next year in playoffs. People talk about Celtics lack of talent rn but Jayson tatum/Jaylen are already as good Derozan if not better already.
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Post#82 » by HiMyNameIsTrey » Fri May 11, 2018 5:52 pm

Derozan might give Budenholzer a brain aneurysm with his low IQ, non 3 point shooting, slow-footed ass.
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Post#83 » by Asif16 » Fri May 11, 2018 5:54 pm

IF we hire Mike, One thing is for sure....theres no way in hell our starting PF/C combo will be Ibaka/Val. The combined IQ of those two dudes is 2.

Either Ibaka or Val will get traded. Val will most likely be the easier guy to trade.

Someone like Marc Gasol would be lethal in Mike's system
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Post#84 » by execoftheyear » Fri May 11, 2018 5:56 pm

Kabookalu wrote:

I don't think a Bud engineered offense can suffice without having at least one high IQ player operating down low.

We have Ibaka.


Poeltl and Siakam would flourish under that offense. A lot of big to big action which Siakam and Poeltl have shown a lot of, coach Bud will implement more ways the two will get eachother the ball. Marc Gasol should be number 1 on our radar, he'd look great under a popovich-influenced offense plus more shooters.
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Post#85 » by kj_ » Fri May 11, 2018 6:00 pm

Didn’t he go after OG this year? Might be an awkward first practice.

Wouldn’t this be replacing one playoff underperformed with another. The Hawks got rolled in the playoffs too, no?


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Post#86 » by Mak » Fri May 11, 2018 6:02 pm

kj_ wrote:Didn’t he go after OG this year? Might be an awkward first practice.

Wouldn’t this be replacing one playoff underperformed with another. The Hawks got rolled in the playoffs too, no?


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I'm starting to warm up to Bud. Everybody got rolled in the playoffs by the Cavs pretty much (in the east and except the pacers this year) . Brad Stevens lost to the cavs badly as well.
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Post#87 » by Kabookalu » Fri May 11, 2018 6:02 pm

execoftheyear wrote:
Kabookalu wrote:

I don't think a Bud engineered offense can suffice without having at least one high IQ player operating down low.

We have Ibaka.


Poeltl and Siakam would flourish under that offense. A lot of big to big action which Siakam and Poeltl have shown a lot of, coach Bud will implement more ways the two will get eachother the ball. Marc Gasol should be number 1 on our radar, he'd look great under a popovich-influenced offense plus more shooters.


Siakam is already a good passer in, whatever offense we run. If we're to get more out of Poeltl and make greater use of his passing, he'd need to be more of a shooter and scorer. Bud wants a wide open paint at all times and the flexibility of having multiple players that can spot up, score, and post up.

If we get Bud I hope Poeltl is working on his PF game that I think he has stored within him that Casey has been suppressing.
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Post#88 » by SHFT » Fri May 11, 2018 6:04 pm

Laurier wrote:Wtf. A white Casey, NOOOOOOO!!! I don't like this and so are the Rexdale peepz.

We need someone like Messina but oh well he can't speak English really well so there's that.

We can't habe Becky Hammon cuz she's a woman.

Gotta please the Rexdale fans who are faithful followers.

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Post#89 » by TheAlchemist » Fri May 11, 2018 6:09 pm

Best guy available.

For those hating Bud because he got swept by LeBron..

Who would you rather have?

Jerry stack house? Please. The guy has no experience and this team, if we retool, needs that.

Messina? There's been a serious dedication towards this guy since the Andrea Bargnani era. Apparently hes a basketball savant and an amazing X's and O's guy. But not one team for the last 7 years hired him for a head coach position. Why? Because there's a serious language and culture disconnect. That's probably Dwane Casey's best talent. He has the ear of his players.

Then the fringe guys:

SVG - struggling to coach post small- ball 3 point shooting era. Had a great system in Orlando, tried but couldn't replicate it and was horrible in detroit. I pass on him.

JVG - won't leave the commentator booth.

Marc Jackson - see above.

Then there's Nick Nurse - a guy who I personally credit all the Raptors offensive success for. He looks primed for a head coaching fit. He's the only alternative I see.
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Post#90 » by XxIronChainzxX » Fri May 11, 2018 6:10 pm

VinBaker6 wrote:Swept by the No Kyrie, no Love Cavs. Lets the 2016 Cavs shoot a record margin from 3 in 2016 in a sweep.

The guy has an even worse defensive scheme than Casey and those Hawks had better defenders.


Okay. Who would you hire?
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Post#91 » by MavCarter » Fri May 11, 2018 6:10 pm

Hope masai takes his time and looks at nurse and the college ranks too before making a decision
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Post#92 » by teamLeiweke » Fri May 11, 2018 6:14 pm

Master Ze wrote:
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Master Ze wrote:I'd be shocked if another team hired Casey as HC.


You’re joking right?

We are trying to go from good to great. And I’m frustrated with our post-seasons too.

But, most teams would BEG to go from missing the playoffs to 5 straight around 50 win seasons, without Generational Talent, most recently 56 and 59 wins, and Casey was a HUGE part of our Regular Season success.

Couple that with being a lead assistant on the Championship Dallas Mavericks?

Tell me you’re trolling. He will be hired as a Head Coach again for sure.

Tell me which team is gonna do it. I only see him getting assistant job offers. I know what he’s done but he’s 61...


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23471830/did-toronto-raptors-overachieve-disappoint-dwane-casey-nba

I’ll take Woj’s opinion that Casey will coach again over yours. Says Bucks, Pistons, Magic high possibility. He is near the top of all teams wish list. Also said maybe Casey takes a year off since he will still be paid 6m. And is patient in his selection of which team he coaches. But he definitely will coach again this year or next year.
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Post#93 » by ___Rand___ » Fri May 11, 2018 6:16 pm

Asif16 wrote:He was a former spurs assistant coach. I dont mind him. Was a good X's and O's coach.


So was Casey. We need a coach who can READ the players psychologically and know how to prepare his team in the mental game. THAT's been our biggest failure thus far. We just don't got it.
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Post#94 » by Asif16 » Fri May 11, 2018 6:17 pm

___Rand___ wrote:
Asif16 wrote:He was a former spurs assistant coach. I dont mind him. Was a good X's and O's coach.


So was Casey. We need a coach who can READ the players psychologically and know how to prepare his team in the mental game. THAT's been our biggest failure thus far. We just don't got it.


Casey was a former spurs assistant? He was a good X's and O's coach?
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Post#95 » by Lord Eder » Fri May 11, 2018 6:19 pm

SHFT wrote:
Laurier wrote:Wtf. A white Casey, NOOOOOOO!!! I don't like this and so are the Rexdale peepz.

We need someone like Messina but oh well he can't speak English really well so there's that.

We can't habe Becky Hammon cuz she's a woman.

Gotta please the Rexdale fans who are faithful followers.

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Post#96 » by [SJJ] » Fri May 11, 2018 6:19 pm

The problem was more Derozan than Casey.

Oh well - someone's head had to roll.
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Post#97 » by SHFT » Fri May 11, 2018 6:20 pm

stro wrote:
SHFT wrote:
Laurier wrote:Wtf. A white Casey, NOOOOOOO!!! I don't like this and so are the Rexdale peepz.

We need someone like Messina but oh well he can't speak English really well so there's that.

We can't habe Becky Hammon cuz she's a woman.

Gotta please the Rexdale fans who are faithful followers.

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Post#98 » by Steel » Fri May 11, 2018 6:23 pm

Kabookalu wrote:
execoftheyear wrote:
Kabookalu wrote:

I don't think a Bud engineered offense can suffice without having at least one high IQ player operating down low.

We have Ibaka.


Poeltl and Siakam would flourish under that offense. A lot of big to big action which Siakam and Poeltl have shown a lot of, coach Bud will implement more ways the two will get eachother the ball. Marc Gasol should be number 1 on our radar, he'd look great under a popovich-influenced offense plus more shooters.


Siakam is already a good passer in, whatever offense we run. If we're to get more out of Poeltl and make greater use of his passing, he'd need to be more of a shooter and scorer. Bud wants a wide open paint at all times and the flexibility of having multiple players that can spot up, score, and post up.

If we get Bud I hope Poeltl is working on his PF game that I think he has stored within him that Casey has been suppressing.
Anyone notice the score at 1:20 in the video. Cavs are up 62 to 27. No thanks on Bud

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Post#99 » by Veggamattic » Fri May 11, 2018 6:27 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
Master Ze wrote:I'd be shocked if another team hired Casey as HC.


his only really weakness has been adjusting on the fly in the playoffs.
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Post#100 » by Raps in 4 » Fri May 11, 2018 6:30 pm

Should have held onto Carroll.

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