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SF_Warriors wrote:Everything about this nets team is as professional and top rate as it gets for a pro basketball organization. From a leadership, talent development, and culture standpoint, one of the best in the nba imo. Not a dig at the knicks, but they could learn a lot from the nets.
SF_Warriors wrote:Everything about this nets team is as professional and top rate as it gets for a pro basketball organization. From a leadership, talent development, and culture standpoint, one of the best in the nba imo. Not a dig at the knicks, but they could learn a lot from the nets.
kamaze wrote:SF_Warriors wrote:Everything about this nets team is as professional and top rate as it gets for a pro basketball organization. From a leadership, talent development, and culture standpoint, one of the best in the nba imo. Not a dig at the knicks, but they could learn a lot from the nets.
Yes New York will probably always be a Knicks town the atmosphere at the Garden is electric. It's all about entertainment going to MSG doesn't really matter if they win or loose it's all about the experience. It's a double edged sword though putting a winning product on the floor doesn't matter to them just putting on a show I don't see that changing.
Enes Kanter on the Knicks
“I had no problem with my teammates. I was so cool with my teammates,” Kanter said. “I had a conversation with them. But I am a basketball player going out there to compete, I am going to try to win no matter what. That is just in my blood… And if someone — I’m not telling you the Knicks told me to do this — but if somebody is telling me the opposite, I’m not going to listen. My job is to go out there and play as hard as I can. Because the fans are paying so much money to come and see the game. Especially the Garden. My problem I guess that I wanted to win. Something that didn’t make sense is they told me I’m too old to play, and I was 26, and I was like, that doesn’t make sense. Then they bring in a guy four or five years older than me and they start playing him, I’m like, this doesn’t make sense. We had some stuff going on with the Knicks but I wish them the best.”
A decent player wants to compete and you tell him to sit we're tanking. That's being content with a losing culture.
shtolky wrote:kamaze wrote:SF_Warriors wrote:Everything about this nets team is as professional and top rate as it gets for a pro basketball organization. From a leadership, talent development, and culture standpoint, one of the best in the nba imo. Not a dig at the knicks, but they could learn a lot from the nets.
Yes New York will probably always be a Knicks town the atmosphere at the Garden is electric. It's all about entertainment going to MSG doesn't really matter if they win or loose it's all about the experience. It's a double edged sword though putting a winning product on the floor doesn't matter to them just putting on a show I don't see that changing.
Enes Kanter on the Knicks
“I had no problem with my teammates. I was so cool with my teammates,” Kanter said. “I had a conversation with them. But I am a basketball player going out there to compete, I am going to try to win no matter what. That is just in my blood… And if someone — I’m not telling you the Knicks told me to do this — but if somebody is telling me the opposite, I’m not going to listen. My job is to go out there and play as hard as I can. Because the fans are paying so much money to come and see the game. Especially the Garden. My problem I guess that I wanted to win. Something that didn’t make sense is they told me I’m too old to play, and I was 26, and I was like, that doesn’t make sense. Then they bring in a guy four or five years older than me and they start playing him, I’m like, this doesn’t make sense. We had some stuff going on with the Knicks but I wish them the best.”
A decent player wants to compete and you tell him to sit we're tanking. That's being content with a losing culture.
You can certainly point out the Knicks lack of success and poor culture over the past 20 years, but tanking in a year when Zion was available shouldn't be an example of that. See the Celtics tanking for Oden/KD. See the Spurs tanking for Duncan. There are many many more examples of that. The Knicks, while being horrid for pretty much the entirety of the 2000's are actually in a pretty decent position for the first time in many years.
SF_Warriors wrote:shtolky wrote:kamaze wrote:
Yes New York will probably always be a Knicks town the atmosphere at the Garden is electric. It's all about entertainment going to MSG doesn't really matter if they win or loose it's all about the experience. It's a double edged sword though putting a winning product on the floor doesn't matter to them just putting on a show I don't see that changing.
Enes Kanter on the Knicks
“I had no problem with my teammates. I was so cool with my teammates,” Kanter said. “I had a conversation with them. But I am a basketball player going out there to compete, I am going to try to win no matter what. That is just in my blood… And if someone — I’m not telling you the Knicks told me to do this — but if somebody is telling me the opposite, I’m not going to listen. My job is to go out there and play as hard as I can. Because the fans are paying so much money to come and see the game. Especially the Garden. My problem I guess that I wanted to win. Something that didn’t make sense is they told me I’m too old to play, and I was 26, and I was like, that doesn’t make sense. Then they bring in a guy four or five years older than me and they start playing him, I’m like, this doesn’t make sense. We had some stuff going on with the Knicks but I wish them the best.”
A decent player wants to compete and you tell him to sit we're tanking. That's being content with a losing culture.
You can certainly point out the Knicks lack of success and poor culture over the past 20 years, but tanking in a year when Zion was available shouldn't be an example of that. See the Celtics tanking for Oden/KD. See the Spurs tanking for Duncan. There are many many more examples of that. The Knicks, while being horrid for pretty much the entirety of the 2000's are actually in a pretty decent position for the first time in many years.
I personally do not have any issues with tanking. You can point out to a number of teams that have had success doing so. With that said, the nets being able to become a relevant team with a shot at contention depending on KD's recovery, coming from what was basically a worst case scenario type of situation and doing it without tanking (they couldn't even if they wanted to) is actually mind boggling for me and one of the main reasons why I have such a high regard for their FO. These guys pluck nba starters seemingly out of nowhere, and what they did for Dlo's career..I mean just incredible.
DarkHawk wrote:Highly doubt these are the $80-150 jerseys. Still cool though
shtolky wrote:kamaze wrote:SF_Warriors wrote:Everything about this nets team is as professional and top rate as it gets for a pro basketball organization. From a leadership, talent development, and culture standpoint, one of the best in the nba imo. Not a dig at the knicks, but they could learn a lot from the nets.
Yes New York will probably always be a Knicks town the atmosphere at the Garden is electric. It's all about entertainment going to MSG doesn't really matter if they win or loose it's all about the experience. It's a double edged sword though putting a winning product on the floor doesn't matter to them just putting on a show I don't see that changing.
Enes Kanter on the Knicks
“I had no problem with my teammates. I was so cool with my teammates,” Kanter said. “I had a conversation with them. But I am a basketball player going out there to compete, I am going to try to win no matter what. That is just in my blood… And if someone — I’m not telling you the Knicks told me to do this — but if somebody is telling me the opposite, I’m not going to listen. My job is to go out there and play as hard as I can. Because the fans are paying so much money to come and see the game. Especially the Garden. My problem I guess that I wanted to win. Something that didn’t make sense is they told me I’m too old to play, and I was 26, and I was like, that doesn’t make sense. Then they bring in a guy four or five years older than me and they start playing him, I’m like, this doesn’t make sense. We had some stuff going on with the Knicks but I wish them the best.”
A decent player wants to compete and you tell him to sit we're tanking. That's being content with a losing culture.
You can certainly point out the Knicks lack of success and poor culture over the past 20 years, but tanking in a year when Zion was available shouldn't be an example of that. See the Celtics tanking for Oden/KD. See the Spurs tanking for Duncan. There are many many more examples of that. The Knicks, while being horrid for pretty much the entirety of the 2000's are actually in a pretty decent position for the first time in many years.
IgorK wrote:Good idea because the fans will need a jersey to burn on social media when Kyrie leaves professional basketball in 18 months to prove that the Earth is indeed flat af.
PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
queridiculo wrote:Oh boy, I hope Durant isn't going to get his feelzies hurt.
PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
Paradise wrote:I thought Kyrie was a self absorbed guy who doesn’t sign autographs?
He seems to be doing perfectly fine in NY.
PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
FlatearthZorro wrote:Paradise wrote:I thought Kyrie was a self absorbed guy who doesn’t sign autographs?
He seems to be doing perfectly fine in NY.
He was fine in the first year in Boston. His advanced stats were superstar-ish. So we shall see with time.
shtolky wrote:SF_Warriors wrote:shtolky wrote:
You can certainly point out the Knicks lack of success and poor culture over the past 20 years, but tanking in a year when Zion was available shouldn't be an example of that. See the Celtics tanking for Oden/KD. See the Spurs tanking for Duncan. There are many many more examples of that. The Knicks, while being horrid for pretty much the entirety of the 2000's are actually in a pretty decent position for the first time in many years.
I personally do not have any issues with tanking. You can point out to a number of teams that have had success doing so. With that said, the nets being able to become a relevant team with a shot at contention depending on KD's recovery, coming from what was basically a worst case scenario type of situation and doing it without tanking (they couldn't even if they wanted to) is actually mind boggling for me and one of the main reasons why I have such a high regard for their FO. These guys pluck nba starters seemingly out of nowhere, and what they did for Dlo's career..I mean just incredible.
I didn't mean to infer anything about the Nets with my post, just that the Knicks tanking was actually a good thing (highest odds to get Zion and they ended up with a very good prospect).
I'm a Knick fan and can admit the Nets have done a great job. I think it's just fine to say the Nets have done a great job and the Knicks are finally digging themselves out of hell. I think it's silly for Nets fans to crap on the Knicks while praising their own team, and vice versa from Knick fans. The Nets have KD/Kyrie, and a great system in place. The Knicks have exciting young prospects to follow and have preserved crazy good cap flexibility while they figure out which young players will thrive and which won't.
kamaze wrote:shtolky wrote:kamaze wrote:
Yes New York will probably always be a Knicks town the atmosphere at the Garden is electric. It's all about entertainment going to MSG doesn't really matter if they win or loose it's all about the experience. It's a double edged sword though putting a winning product on the floor doesn't matter to them just putting on a show I don't see that changing.
Enes Kanter on the Knicks
“I had no problem with my teammates. I was so cool with my teammates,” Kanter said. “I had a conversation with them. But I am a basketball player going out there to compete, I am going to try to win no matter what. That is just in my blood… And if someone — I’m not telling you the Knicks told me to do this — but if somebody is telling me the opposite, I’m not going to listen. My job is to go out there and play as hard as I can. Because the fans are paying so much money to come and see the game. Especially the Garden. My problem I guess that I wanted to win. Something that didn’t make sense is they told me I’m too old to play, and I was 26, and I was like, that doesn’t make sense. Then they bring in a guy four or five years older than me and they start playing him, I’m like, this doesn’t make sense. We had some stuff going on with the Knicks but I wish them the best.”
A decent player wants to compete and you tell him to sit we're tanking. That's being content with a losing culture.
You can certainly point out the Knicks lack of success and poor culture over the past 20 years, but tanking in a year when Zion was available shouldn't be an example of that. See the Celtics tanking for Oden/KD. See the Spurs tanking for Duncan. There are many many more examples of that. The Knicks, while being horrid for pretty much the entirety of the 2000's are actually in a pretty decent position for the first time in many years.
I just don't like the idea of tanking the Nets never have neither has Indiana, a team that usually makes the playoffs. A 20 year old rookie isn't going to magically change your franchise the players coming into the NBA mostly still have to learn the game. If you want to establish a good you need to so before you expect to start winning not after you get lucky and win the lottery . The Knicks handle things their way and it just doesn't work.
Paradise wrote:FatboyRealPetty wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
and when we run you out of the gym in a few weeks, none of what you're saying will matter.
lol even if the nets went undefeated against us it wouldn’t change the city being a Knick town. You’d just be the better team it’ll take a lot more than that to overthrow the Knicks You guys have no historic memorable moments here I like how y’all assume getting KD/Irving just automatically changes something. But well see
What historical moments do the Knicks have besides opponents taking a dump on your team in the Garden, again? Melo’s 62? That’s about it but I can recall every historical moment in Barclays recently over the course of now several seasons.
Every Joe Johnson game winner, Allen blocking LeBron, beating the Miami Heat in the semifinals at home with 20 threes in 2014, LeBron dropping 49 to beat us at Barclays, D’angelo dropping 44 in a historic comeback, Dinwiddie beating Harden’s 59 points, Deron Williams making 9 threes in a half, Dudley vs Simmons in Game 4, D-Wade’s Final NBA game at Barclays.
What have the Knicks done? Lose to the Pistons by 50 in the last game as a historical moment? Genuinely asking.
Paradise wrote:FlatearthZorro wrote:Paradise wrote:I thought Kyrie was a self absorbed guy who doesn’t sign autographs?
He seems to be doing perfectly fine in NY.
He was fine in the first year in Boston. His advanced stats were superstar-ish. So we shall see with time.
Did Kyrie show up to random parks with his dad in Boston, though?
He wasn’t born in Boston, he didn’t grow up a fan of the Celtics and his entire family didn’t grow up or currently live in Boston...
He actually wanted to be here, though. I don’t understand why that is hard to comprehend. He wasn’t forced into a trade demand.
PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
