VanVleet: Toronto is somewhere I can live for a long time

[SHFT]

Its very easy to find guys that can give you 10 ppg off the bench in the NBA. That's why you don't pay $10+ million for them. This is one of those situations where its best for both sides to let the player walk. Doesn't make sense for us to overpay for a guy that is going to be a 6th man at best. Doesn't make sense for FVV to take a discount when there will be around $20M per year out there waiting for him. I'm happy for the guy and don't fault him one bit for wanting to max his earnings. He's the type of guy that is 1 injury or bad season away from being out of the NBA. But I don't want my team giving him what will end up being the biggest payday of his career.

But it's hard to find the clutchness in the playoffs.

Clutchness?

Series vs Orlando - the minute he steps on the floor we start losing leads and starters have to come back in
Series vs Sixers - probably the worst playoff performance I have seen of any player in the playoff history.
Bucks- first 3 games, unplayable pile of garbage

Where was the clutchness in the first two and a half series? It was an unwatchable pile of dog feces.

He is worth no more than 7 -8 , 9 mil / year tops. If someone wants to overpay let them.

Yeah his kid was about to be born. We dont know if they were dealing with any complications of any kind which can happen to anyone. Im not saying expect FVV to be GS fire for the rest of his career but you are purposely ignoring that huge fact. Why is it relevant? Because once the kid popped he lit it up like nobodies business so it was obviously a factor of some kind. Even if you argue it wasnt, then you have to take his steph like performance at face value towards the end of CF and all of the Finals, and thats when it really matters.

I expect him to shoot 38-40% from downtown this year on good volume, esp on a contract yr.

We will see I guess and again in the playoffs.

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[Dalek]

Fred has a new ad deal with Axe...

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You know he is staying with all these easy marketing opportunities falling in his lap. Toronto is great for local athletes and he is taking full advantage even more than Powell.

One benefit of having Fred is that he is known as the undrafted guy that made it - a champion, an expert marketer, a clever tagline. Terence Davis who I think is a complete stud and steal for the contract we got him on, is a guy that identified with FVV and saw himself as a guy in a similar position. He even recently talked about Fred teaching him about all aspect of basketball, including off-court stuff like marketing.

I think the undrafted and redraft candidates will be Toronto's sweet spot for both development and signing guys long term. VanVleet is kind of the poster child of this and it doesn't hurt that he is willing to even work with the young guys in the offseason.

[JShuttlesworth]

Fred at $15 million per year is too much, unless he comes out and has himself a great season.

We have to be smart with these contracts, you can't just overpay everybody.

[poomaster]

But it's hard to find the clutchness in the playoffs.

Clutchness?

Series vs Orlando - the minute he steps on the floor we start losing leads and starters have to come back in
Series vs Sixers - probably the worst playoff performance I have seen of any player in the playoff history.
Bucks- first 3 games, unplayable pile of garbage

Where was the clutchness in the first two and a half series? It was an unwatchable pile of dog feces.

He is worth no more than 7 -8 , 9 mil / year tops. If someone wants to overpay let them.

Yeah his kid was about to be born. We dont know if they were dealing with any complications of any kind which can happen to anyone. Im not saying expect FVV to be GS fire for the rest of his career but you are purposely ignoring that huge fact. Why is it relevant? Because once the kid popped he lit it up like nobodies business so it was obviously a factor of some kind. Even if you argue it wasnt, then you have to take his steph like performance at face value towards the end of CF and all of the Finals, and thats when it really matters.

I expect him to shoot 38-40% from downtown this year on good volume, esp on a contract yr.

We will see I guess and again in the playoffs.

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I'm not ignoring anything. I do know something about excuses, everyone has one and they all stink. This is professional sports, you either perform or you don't, nobody cares about your sob story excuses on why you had a poor game or a poor month. If it is true, that's even worse. You let the team down because you are mentally weak and couldn't handle adversity.

[OakleyDokely]

VanVleet was a closing player on a championship team. He's not getting less than the MLE.

[SHFT]

Clutchness?

Series vs Orlando - the minute he steps on the floor we start losing leads and starters have to come back in
Series vs Sixers - probably the worst playoff performance I have seen of any player in the playoff history.
Bucks- first 3 games, unplayable pile of garbage

Where was the clutchness in the first two and a half series? It was an unwatchable pile of dog feces.

He is worth no more than 7 -8 , 9 mil / year tops. If someone wants to overpay let them.

Yeah his kid was about to be born. We dont know if they were dealing with any complications of any kind which can happen to anyone. Im not saying expect FVV to be GS fire for the rest of his career but you are purposely ignoring that huge fact. Why is it relevant? Because once the kid popped he lit it up like nobodies business so it was obviously a factor of some kind. Even if you argue it wasnt, then you have to take his steph like performance at face value towards the end of CF and all of the Finals, and thats when it really matters.

I expect him to shoot 38-40% from downtown this year on good volume, esp on a contract yr.

We will see I guess and again in the playoffs.

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I'm not ignoring anything. I do know something about excuses, everyone has one and they all stink. This is professional sports, you either perform or you don't, nobody cares about your sob story excuses on why you had a poor game or a poor month. If it is true, that's even worse. You let the team down because you are mentally weak and couldn't handle adversity.

I do know something about excuses, everyone has one and they all stink.

so you going to tell me about your professional sports career or your 7 figure salary?

This is professional sports, you either perform or you don't,

...he did perform, when the lights shined the brightest. Regardless of who it is, if you turn on in the finals, im not worried about your mentality in the first few rds. If you turn it on in the first few rounds, I'm still going to wait and see if you can do it in the finals. See how that works?

You let the team down because you are mentally weak and couldn't handle adversity.

lmaoooo youre a terrible, terrible troll.

[radeonboy]

Would love he is stays. Especially after that Finals performance. But man, it's going to be pricey...

Love FVV and he showed up at the end when it mattered. He should go chase max money somewhere else. He deserves it