Ad refuses to commit to the Lakers again on media day

[Magic_Johnny12]

He has nothing to gain by committing now one way or the other.

Would be an epic boss move if he went back to N.O. though after they got all the Lakers assets

Has this ever happened in NBA history? Serious question.

I’m sure Stern will have to do something.

[TacoLord]

Ambiguity is worth a lot more to him and his agent. Plus a lot can change between now and then, no reason to say anything before playing a game for them. The Lakers are likely still a dysfunctional organization and it's not worth hitching your wagon to that Buss until it proves it can drive 10 miles without driving off a cliff.

[monopoman]

Committing publicly would be stupid, even if he already has his mind made up to stay.

Players are smart and know that being a free agent is great for your brand . It benefits AD to have everyone talking about him all season saying “is he gonna stay?” and photoshopping him into Knicks jerseys etc , all of that speculation keeps his name in the news cycle

There is also the fact that he may not like it in LA, maybe he has a problem with one of the other players, maybe he has a problem with ownership, players may think they want one thing and once they get it they realize they don't like it.

Kyrie is a great example of this he was pretty damn sure being a Celtic would be great, but once he got there he left a few years later. Even if he didn't care about publicity or something he may feel a lot different about being a Laker after 1 year on the team.

[XxIronChainzxX]

He has nothing to gain by committing now one way or the other.

Would be an epic boss move if he went back to N.O. though after they got all the Lakers assets

Has this ever happened in NBA history? Serious question.

I’m sure Stern will have to do something.

I mean, Stern isn't commissioner unless this is a basketball reasons joke?

But I doubt the NBA will do anything because they never do anything. AD could fully tamper with Griffin and they very likely do nothing about it.

[Illmatic12]

Committing publicly would be stupid, even if he already has his mind made up to stay.

Players are smart and know that being a free agent is great for your brand . It benefits AD to have everyone talking about him all season saying “is he gonna stay?” and photoshopping him into Knicks jerseys etc , all of that speculation keeps his name in the news cycle

There is also the fact that he may not like it in LA, maybe he has a problem with one of the other players, maybe he has a problem with ownership, players may think they want one thing and once they get it they realize they don't like it.

Kyrie is a great example of this he was pretty damn sure being a Celtic would be great, but once he got there he left a few years later. Even if he didn't care about publicity or something he may feel a lot different about being a Laker after 1 year on the team.

Ehh. Kyrie didn’t demand a trade to the Celtics specifically , he just wanted to get outta Cleveland

AD specifically hired Lebron’s agent and took a huge PR hit in order to orchestrate his move to the Lakers. He’s clearly longed to live in LA and grow his brand with the Lakers, I doubt there’s anything their ownership can possibly screw up in 1yr to change that.

LAL should feel pretty confident about Davis accepting an extension, imo (even if it’s not the full 5yr max) . Won’t stop the speculation though.

[Illmatic12]

He has nothing to gain by committing now one way or the other.

Would be an epic boss move if he went back to N.O. though after they got all the Lakers assets

Has this ever happened in NBA history? Serious question.

I’m sure Stern will have to do something.

Obviously wasn’t something he planned out purposefully, but Steve Nash was traded from Phoenix to Dallas in exchange for a draft pick that became Shawn Marion. Several years later he returned to Phoenix and led a 60+ win team with Marion and Stoudemire

[monopoman]

Committing publicly would be stupid, even if he already has his mind made up to stay.

Players are smart and know that being a free agent is great for your brand . It benefits AD to have everyone talking about him all season saying “is he gonna stay?” and photoshopping him into Knicks jerseys etc , all of that speculation keeps his name in the news cycle

There is also the fact that he may not like it in LA, maybe he has a problem with one of the other players, maybe he has a problem with ownership, players may think they want one thing and once they get it they realize they don't like it.

Kyrie is a great example of this he was pretty damn sure being a Celtic would be great, but once he got there he left a few years later. Even if he didn't care about publicity or something he may feel a lot different about being a Laker after 1 year on the team.

Ehh. Kyrie didn’t demand a trade to the Celtics specifically , he just wanted to get outta Cleveland

AD specifically hired Lebron’s agent and took a huge PR hit in order to orchestrate his move to the Lakers. He’s clearly longed to live in LA and grow his brand with the Lakers, I doubt there’s anything their ownership can possibly screw up in 1yr to change that.

LAL should feel pretty confident about Davis accepting an extension, imo (even if it’s not the full 5yr max) . Won’t stop the speculation though.

https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/boston-was-kyrie-irvings-preferred-destination-in-2017-trade-request/

He made it very clear that the Celtics were by far his preferred destination, now AD went a bit beyond that but it wasn't like Kyrie said trade me I don't care where.

[Effigy]

He has nothing to gain by committing now one way or the other.

Would be an epic boss move if he went back to N.O. though after they got all the Lakers assets

Has this ever happened in NBA history? Serious question.

I’m sure Stern will have to do something.

The Nuggets traded Antonio McDyess to Phoenix because he was going to be a FA. Then McDyess signed back with Denver the following off season.

Not the same, but the Spurs traded Shawn Elliot to Detroit for Dennis Rodman, then traded Bill Curley to Detroit for Shawn Elliot the following off season.

[Illmatic12]

There is also the fact that he may not like it in LA, maybe he has a problem with one of the other players, maybe he has a problem with ownership, players may think they want one thing and once they get it they realize they don't like it.

Kyrie is a great example of this he was pretty damn sure being a Celtic would be great, but once he got there he left a few years later. Even if he didn't care about publicity or something he may feel a lot different about being a Laker after 1 year on the team.

Ehh. Kyrie didn’t demand a trade to the Celtics specifically , he just wanted to get outta Cleveland

AD specifically hired Lebron’s agent and took a huge PR hit in order to orchestrate his move to the Lakers. He’s clearly longed to live in LA and grow his brand with the Lakers, I doubt there’s anything their ownership can possibly screw up in 1yr to change that.

LAL should feel pretty confident about Davis accepting an extension, imo (even if it’s not the full 5yr max) . Won’t stop the speculation though.

https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/boston-was-kyrie-irvings-preferred-destination-in-2017-trade-request/

He made it very clear that the Celtics were by far his preferred destination, now AD went a bit beyond that but it wasn't like Kyrie said trade me I don't care where.

Lol come on now, not remotely the same thing. Davis quit playing in the middle of a season so he could force a trade to a specific franchise. Lakers literally got investigated for tampering bc the whole thing was so obvious.

Also AD can sign his extension next summer , not 2 years away. He already knows what he’s doing and how much money he will be offered.

[monopoman]

Ehh. Kyrie didn’t demand a trade to the Celtics specifically , he just wanted to get outta Cleveland

AD specifically hired Lebron’s agent and took a huge PR hit in order to orchestrate his move to the Lakers. He’s clearly longed to live in LA and grow his brand with the Lakers, I doubt there’s anything their ownership can possibly screw up in 1yr to change that.

LAL should feel pretty confident about Davis accepting an extension, imo (even if it’s not the full 5yr max) . Won’t stop the speculation though.

https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/boston-was-kyrie-irvings-preferred-destination-in-2017-trade-request/

He made it very clear that the Celtics were by far his preferred destination, now AD went a bit beyond that but it wasn't like Kyrie said trade me I don't care where.

Lol come on now, not remotely the same thing. Davis quit playing in the middle of a season so he could force a trade to a specific franchise. Lakers literally got investigated for tampering bc the whole thing was so obvious.

Also AD can sign his extension next summer , not 2 years away. He already knows what he’s doing and how much money he will be offered.

Kyrie did it a much preferred way, you act like no matter the troubles AD faces he is a Laker for at least 3-5 years. I think that is a fallacy, especially because LBJ is in a no lose situation meanwhile if the Lakers face trouble it reflects badly more on AD. **** even out of winning situations players have left like KD, he left a team that won a championship in 2 of the 3 years he was there.

The brighter the spotlight the more negative press amplifies and fans getting impatient with any sort of struggles.

[Illmatic12]

https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/boston-was-kyrie-irvings-preferred-destination-in-2017-trade-request/

He made it very clear that the Celtics were by far his preferred destination, now AD went a bit beyond that but it wasn't like Kyrie said trade me I don't care where.

Lol come on now, not remotely the same thing. Davis quit playing in the middle of a season so he could force a trade to a specific franchise. Lakers literally got investigated for tampering bc the whole thing was so obvious.

Also AD can sign his extension next summer , not 2 years away. He already knows what he’s doing and how much money he will be offered.

Kyrie did it a much preferred way, you act like no matter the troubles AD faces he is a Laker for at least 3-5 years. I think that is a fallacy, especially because LBJ is in a no lose situation meanwhile if the Lakers face trouble it reflects badly more on AD. **** even out of winning situations players have left like KD, he left a team that won a championship in 2 of the 3 years he was there.

The brighter the spotlight the more negative press amplifies and fans getting impatient with any sort of struggles.

We’ll see how it goes. But I think AD is exactly where he and Rich Paul want him to be .. there’s no better market for him to maximize his brand and attract star talent. Even if the Lebron pairing doesn’t work out , Davis is young enough that he could have at least 6-8+ prime years left

[spikeslovechild]

Lol come on now, not remotely the same thing. Davis quit playing in the middle of a season so he could force a trade to a specific franchise. Lakers literally got investigated for tampering bc the whole thing was so obvious.

Also AD can sign his extension next summer , not 2 years away. He already knows what he’s doing and how much money he will be offered.

Kyrie did it a much preferred way, you act like no matter the troubles AD faces he is a Laker for at least 3-5 years. I think that is a fallacy, especially because LBJ is in a no lose situation meanwhile if the Lakers face trouble it reflects badly more on AD. **** even out of winning situations players have left like KD, he left a team that won a championship in 2 of the 3 years he was there.

The brighter the spotlight the more negative press amplifies and fans getting impatient with any sort of struggles.

We’ll see how it goes. But I think AD is exactly where he and Rich Paul want him to be .. there’s no better market for him to maximize his brand and attract star talent. Even if the Lebron pairing doesn’t work out , Davis is young enough that he could have at least 6-8+ prime years left

How many years will he give it though because Lebron has at least two more years maybe more.

To me this is Davis making sure the rest of the teams with cap space in the offseason know him staying with the Lakers is not a sure thing and he wants to explore the FA market regardless of what happens.

As far as LA being his preference who knows? It could be or it could have been just Rich Paul telling him he could get him out of the Pelicans and join the Lakers.

[Illmatic12]

Kyrie did it a much preferred way, you act like no matter the troubles AD faces he is a Laker for at least 3-5 years. I think that is a fallacy, especially because LBJ is in a no lose situation meanwhile if the Lakers face trouble it reflects badly more on AD. **** even out of winning situations players have left like KD, he left a team that won a championship in 2 of the 3 years he was there.

The brighter the spotlight the more negative press amplifies and fans getting impatient with any sort of struggles.

We’ll see how it goes. But I think AD is exactly where he and Rich Paul want him to be .. there’s no better market for him to maximize his brand and attract star talent. Even if the Lebron pairing doesn’t work out , Davis is young enough that he could have at least 6-8+ prime years left

How many years will he give it though because Lebron has at least two more years maybe more.

To me this is Davis making sure the rest of the teams with cap space in the offseason know him staying with the Lakers is not a sure thing and he wants to explore the FA market regardless of what happens.

As far as LA being his preference who knows? It could be or it could have been just Rich Paul telling him he could get him out of the Pelicans and join the Lakers.

Where else is AD going to go in FA? Not like he can hop on the Bucks, Warriors, Rockets, Clippers etc those teams don’t have cap space.

I believe the Atlanta Hawks , Dallas Mavericks, Toronto Raptors, NY Knicks are the only teams that can offer Davis a max slot next summer. So looking at those choices .. Lebron is easily the best possible teammate he could play with over the next 2 seasons. Yeah I wouldn’t be too worried about him signing elsewhere if I was the Lakers.

LBJs contract is up in 2021 (opt out) so he can either leave and go back to Cle or whatever he wants, OR they can arrange to bring in a 3rd max guy like Giannis with Lebron agreeing to take a pay cut. The set up AD has in LAL is more promising than anywhere else he could go.

Lol think this is wishful thinking by ppl who have a distaste for the Lakers. I’m not a fan of them at all but it’s pretty clear landing AD was a major coup for that franchise.

[HurricaneKid]

Just out of curiosity, was he supposed to admit publically that he had a handshake deal to sign a max extension next offseason as the league cracks down on tampering??

Nah. And that's why it's so difficult to prove tampering.

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[Hellcrooner]

I guess he is not that close to Cousins.

Because i dont see any way Cousins does not tell to him " JUST TAKE THE F MONEY ALREADY just in case , Dont end up like me broke and broken 150M > a life of vets minim cotntracts""

[TimRobbins]

He's gone. It can't get more obvious than this.

[TimRobbins]

The set up AD has in LAL is more promising than anywhere else he could go.

I doubt watching an aging Lebron dribble the ball for 20 seconds while you wait at the 3pt line is "appealing" to AD or any other superstar. We'll see.

[Illmatic12]

The set up AD has in LAL is more promising than anywhere else he could go.

I doubt watching an aging Lebron dribble the ball for 20 seconds while you wait at the 3pt line is "appealing" to AD or any other superstar. We'll see.

Ok then where else is he gonna go besides the Lakers? You think he's leaving, so tell us which team he's going to then?
In a hypothetical world where there's no salary cap or AD is willing to take a vet minimum deal, yeah it'd be more appealing for AD to join the Warriors or Rockets or w/e.

My point is that REALISTICALLY speaking, none of the actual teams who have cap room to max Davis next offseason are better options or closer to contention. Thus Lakers have nothing to worry about, at least not for now. Maybe he signs a 1+1 deal next summer but I can't see him not at least playing the next two seasons with LAL.

[TimRobbins]

Ok then where else is he gonna go besides the Lakers? You think he's leaving, so tell us which team he's going to then?
In a hypothetical world where there's no salary cap or AD is willing to take a vet minimum deal, yeah it'd be more appealing for AD to join the Warriors or Rockets or w/e.

My point is that REALISTICALLY speaking, none of the actual teams who have cap room to max Davis next offseason are better options or closer to contention. Thus Lakers have nothing to worry about, at least not for now. Maybe he signs a 1+1 deal next summer but I can't see him not at least playing the next two seasons with LAL.

Did anybody see Kwahi and PG teaming up with the Clippers? Cap space is dynamic. AD can team up with another star player someplace. I'm not seeing him playing more than one season with this version of Lebron. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see AD traded by the deadline.

[iamworthy]

Ok then where else is he gonna go besides the Lakers? You think he's leaving, so tell us which team he's going to then?
In a hypothetical world where there's no salary cap or AD is willing to take a vet minimum deal, yeah it'd be more appealing for AD to join the Warriors or Rockets or w/e.

My point is that REALISTICALLY speaking, none of the actual teams who have cap room to max Davis next offseason are better options or closer to contention. Thus Lakers have nothing to worry about, at least not for now. Maybe he signs a 1+1 deal next summer but I can't see him not at least playing the next two seasons with LAL.

Did anybody see Kwahi and PG teaming up with the Clippers? Cap space is dynamic. AD can team up with another star player someplace. I'm not seeing him playing more than one season with this version of Lebron. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see AD traded by the deadline.

Lakers will not trade him, so what team with a superstar has max money to sign him out right?