Official trade Julius Randle thread

[Stannis]

Pick and Randle for THJ and Courtney Lee?

No imo. We need to get in the habit of not trading assets to clean up recent mistakes.

We need to get in the habit of not making THjr & Randle like signings lol

From this point forward, never sign a player where you have to ask "can they improve a lot defensively?". If you have to ask that, hard pass

[Deeeez Knicks]

Pick and Randle for THJ and Courtney Lee?

No imo. We need to get in the habit of not trading assets to clean up recent mistakes.

We need to get in the habit of not making THjr & Randle like signings lol

From this point forward, never sign a player where you have to ask "can they improve a lot defensively?". If you have to ask that, hard pass

Yea, no need to give up a pick. Worst case just limit his minute/role

[Jimmit79]

Mills streak of overpaying bad players continues. I'm curious why he's allowed to screw up so much. Grunwald makes one barf trade he's gone, Walsh screws up 2010 he's gone, Steve Mills overpays thjr/randle/portis and runs KP out of town and can't even meet with any top players with 78mil dollar in his pockets yet it's Fizdale who could get fired first.

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

I want him traded for a stretch 4, that way we can play Mitch more minutes and actually run a ton of PnR between Mitch and RJ.

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[thebuzzardman]

Mills streak of overpaying bad players continues. I'm curious why he's allowed to screw up so much. Grunwald makes one barf trade he's gone, Walsh screws up 2010 he's gone, Steve Mills overpays thjr/randle/portis and runs KP out of town and can't even meet with any top players with 78mil dollar in his pockets yet it's Fizdale who could get fired first.

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Mills and Perry, like Fizdale, are great. They know more about basketball than any fan, and it's a shame people call for their heads.

You'll see. People will be hating on the next people in the front office just like they are hating on Mills and Perry. It's sad.
Isiah sucks, Wake up Donnie, Get it done Grunny, Phil sucks, Perry sucks. So sad. Fans always blaming the FO or coaches. Sad.

[nyk2017]

Julius Randle is a much better shooter when he sets his feet. He gets into trouble when he shuffles his feet or dribbles too much and takes a rushed shot. He also seems to get a lot of balls knocked out of his hands especially in the paint area, probably because he holds the ball too low and is hesitant to make quick decisions in the paint. When he either gets into the lane and shoots quickly, catches the ball or goes up quickly after rebounds he is much better. Today he seemed to fix some of those issues and hopefully he is over the jitters and pressure of being the # 1 guy on the team.

[cgmw]

I’m putting it on record that folks are being way too harsh on Julius. He’ll be alright. Eventually.

So sayeth cgmw so shall it be

[robillionaire]

10 ast and 2 turnovers the past 2 games

30 pts 7 reb 4 ast 2 stl 1 blk, 12-17 3-5 from 3

he's just 24 thank you pills we have the kp replacement on lock

[dakomish23]

It's the team. He's being asked/forced/enabled to do things he's not best suited for. He is not Lebron James. He is not James Harden. Problem is without a primary ball handler and without a real no.1 offensive option, that's what he has to be (try to be, feel he should be). Result? Too much dribbling with the ball in his hands trying to do things and get everyone involved as well as create shots (which the Knicks are still piss poor near the bottom of the league at). If the Knicks actually had a real PG that can actually really run an offense Randle wouldn't need to be trying to channel his inner Oscar Robertson dribbling into 3 defenders and getting stripped. This shouldn't be anything new. We've seen the same thing for the last near 20 years with Mills being front and center of most of it. Make a flawed talent the centerpiece of you're team and then totally be incapable of adding the pieces around that flawed talent to supplement and hide his flaws and do anything. Fans then scapegoat that flawed talent. Rinse and repeat.

Nailed it.

[gavran]

Pick and Randle for THJ and Courtney Lee?

How is this not a bannable post?

[Chanel Bomber]

Mills streak of overpaying bad players continues. I'm curious why he's allowed to screw up so much. Grunwald makes one barf trade he's gone, Walsh screws up 2010 he's gone, Steve Mills overpays thjr/randle/portis and runs KP out of town and can't even meet with any top players with 78mil dollar in his pockets yet it's Fizdale who could get fired first.

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Mills and Perry, like Fizdale, are great. They know more about basketball than any fan, and it's a shame people call for their heads.

You'll see. People will be hating on the next people in the front office just like they are hating on Mills and Perry. It's sad.
Isiah sucks, Wake up Donnie, Get it done Grunny, Phil sucks, Perry sucks. So sad. Fans always blaming the FO or coaches. Sad.

Well played buzz, well played

[Juco24]

Pick and Randle for THJ and Courtney Lee?

How is this not a bannable post?

I thought it was just me... or did I miss a notfunny joke

[thebuzzardman]

I'm more eager for Fizdale to be fired than Randle to be traded, as a different coach would probably play Randle to his strengths and that would eliminate 75% of the dumb stuff he does.

Maybe Fizdale will figure it out. Willing to wait until the all star break, complaining the whole time.

[Clyde_Style]

I'm more eager for Fizdale to be fired than Randle to be traded, as a different coach would probably play Randle to his strengths and that would eliminate 75% of the dumb stuff he does.

Maybe Fizdale will figure it out. Willing to wait until the all star break, complaining the whole time.

The veterans seemed more adjusted to Frank's presence last night than any time before. It may not be a coincidence that coincided with Randle going off as a shooter instead of him doing his human bowling ball impersonation.

[Jeff Van Gully]

as someone who was bewildered by the signing and talked off the ledge, i am going to say something i think will be unpopular.

if randle plays like he did yesterday, that's a bargain signing for a young star who could help you win ball games.

at first i saw the deal a lot like THJ where you're paying for futures. but randle showed real potential in NO and i am holding out hope that he is an asset if nothing else. but at his age, he could be the answer at the 4 and small-ball 5 if he continues to play to his potential.

and when i say play like last night, i don't mean the box score. that stat line isn't realistic. but he generally let the game come to him. he played very comfortably and in-control for the most part. he got teammates involed and kept the ball moving. he just made good decisions to get that line and the W.

[thebuzzardman]

as someone who was bewildered by the signing and talked off the ledge, i am going to say something i think will be unpopular.

if randle plays like he did yesterday, that's a bargain signing for a young star who could help you win ball games.

at first i saw the deal a lot like THJ where you're paying for futures. but randle showed real potential in NO and i am holding out hope that he is an asset if nothing else. but at his age, he could be the answer at the 4 and small-ball 5 if he continues to play to his potential.

and when i say play like last night, i don't mean the box score. that stat line isn't realistic. but he generally let the game come to him. he played very comfortably and in-control for the most part. he got teammates involved and kept the ball moving. he just made good decisions to get that line and the W.

It helps that in general, the Knicks ran some high P&R's with the floor spread. Even if they weren't for Randle. Just the way the floor gets spread out and that that play makes Frank more effective.

I'll never get to THJr level bashing, as that was a potential 4 year commitment, which of course wasn't Timmy's fault. Worst case scenario for Randle, it's 2 years. Hell, they could even diminish his role in year 2 if it wasn't working out, since he wouldn't be "part of the team moving forward" in that worst case scenario, which isn't likely to happen. Meaning, Randle won't be that bad.

[dakomish23]

as someone who was bewildered by the signing and talked off the ledge, i am going to say something i think will be unpopular.

if randle plays like he did yesterday, that's a bargain signing for a young star who could help you win ball games.

at first i saw the deal a lot like THJ where you're paying for futures. but randle showed real potential in NO and i am holding out hope that he is an asset if nothing else. but at his age, he could be the answer at the 4 and small-ball 5 if he continues to play to his potential.

and when i say play like last night, i don't mean the box score. that stat line isn't realistic. but he generally let the game come to him. he played very comfortably and in-control for the most part. he got teammates involed and kept the ball moving. he just made good decisions to get that line and the W.

This part right here is perfectly said. Making him be the ball handler / creator on so many possessions was the wrong way to use him. Let's hope this change is here to stay.

I wouldn't have liked it on 4 years. 2 +1 TO was a solid move.

[RHODEY]

as someone who was bewildered by the signing and talked off the ledge, i am going to say something i think will be unpopular.

if randle plays like he did yesterday, that's a bargain signing for a young star who could help you win ball games.

at first i saw the deal a lot like THJ where you're paying for futures. but randle showed real potential in NO and i am holding out hope that he is an asset if nothing else. but at his age, he could be the answer at the 4 and small-ball 5 if he continues to play to his potential.

and when i say play like last night, i don't mean the box score. that stat line isn't realistic. but he generally let the game come to him. he played very comfortably and in-control for the most part. he got teammates involved and kept the ball moving. he just made good decisions to get that line and the W.

I think he played wel the first game of the season... but we have to put this game into the proper context. The Cavs front line without Love,Nance is not a good gauge on what he'll be facing night out. I do think he can play well enough to become a more trade able asset, but the catch is that this FO wouldn't trade him at that point. Morris is the one they are going to move...book it.

[Nazrmohamed]

Pick and Randle for THJ and Courtney Lee?

How is this not a bannable post?

At the very least some level of probation

[BallSacBounce]

Mills streak of overpaying bad players continues. I'm curious why he's allowed to screw up so much. Grunwald makes one barf trade he's gone, Walsh screws up 2010 he's gone, Steve Mills overpays thjr/randle/portis and runs KP out of town and can't even meet with any top players with 78mil dollar in his pockets yet it's Fizdale who could get fired first.

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