Predict the Celtics Roster Move this Offseason

[Prokorov]

umm.. you think there's a market for either of their contracts?

Why not just let the players grow and get better? They have a young, fantastic core.

I think there might be a market for Kemba. Gordon's just been hurt, multiple freak injuries so I doubt he opts out of 30 + mils considering the current economics. I also doubt Danny will look to trade Kemba.

I think Danny got Kemba just to save face on the Kyrie experiment.

I do not think he is married to him at all, It was all about asset retention.

Kemba is available imo.

I think this is kind of true... i think it wasnt so much saving face as it was scrambling. Losing kyrie wasnt just losing the player but losing a high salary player while already capped out. he needed that kind of talent without the ability to really spend in FA. I also think Danny was holding out hope Kyrie would stay too long. Kemba was a great plan B. Horford ditching them hurt too even though he isnt the player he once was think about him matching up with Bam vs. williams/theis/kanter

[beeshma]

These players all have significant negatives:

Smart - chucker, “leads” by having emotional breakdown
Kemba - have to hide him on defense, lower production in playoffs
Theis - in the bottom half of starting centers
Hayward - extremely unreliable production
Morris - not a playoff rotation player

Upgrade all of them.

[Saint Lazarus]

Basically they are tight. The only option is to move Kemba or Hayward but that would still not create Cap Space.
So how to you see Danny Ainge mind going?

I think Boston is probably better without either on the floor. Tatum/Brown have shown to be their best offensive players and both are cant miss all-star (or better) level 2-way guys. Smart is the best option next to that duo at PG and Heyward is better suited as scoring 6th man (but at his salary thats insane). They lack depth and as good as Theis has proven to be they lack bigs. especially floor spacing bigs.

I think trading Kemba for a 4 or a 5 who fits better would be a great move. even if you get 75 cents on the dollar. if they could somehow turn kemba into like myles turner that would be scary good

then they should turn heyward into several lesser bench pieces. they really lack depth and it hurt them in the playoffs at times. but if you can get 2-3 quality bench pieces including a scorer for heyward. Use the MLE on a 3 & D shooting guard...

Smart
3&D
Brown
Tatum
Turner

deeper bench with theis coming off it, thats a title contender

who are you and what have you done to Prokorov? You make too much sense.

The avatar and sig are doing its job in tricking him into becoming a loyal c’s fan

[100proof]

These players all have significant negatives:

Smart - chucker, “leads” by having emotional breakdown
Kemba - have to hide him on defense, lower production in playoffs
Theis - in the bottom half of starting centers
Hayward - extremely unreliable production
Morris - not a playoff rotation player

Upgrade all of them.

no Morris on the Celtics anymore.

And Smart had a playoffs of 14.5ppg, 5.5rpg, 4.5apg, 1.5spg on 40% and 33% while playing exceptionally stellar defense.

He has been and will continue to be, very fine for your 4th option.

Biggest problems was Kemba and Hayward and center.

[AingesBurner]

Hayward is a bad contract and will be treated as such, I could see him being flipped for a big man on a bad contract, Serge Ibaka anyone?

[Slim Charless]

Tough call since they obviously want to keep Brown, Tatum and Smart. I would try and see if Hayward combined with some of these 2020 picks can be moved for either Memphis's Valanciunas+Dieng combo or to Orlando for Vucevic. Both team have young C's and probably wouldn't mind letting the kids play while picking up some picks. Tho w/ MEM it's harder with JJJ's injury. Orlando might be the best move and they could use Hayward's shooting anyway.

I think JV would be a pretty decent add. Can defend a bit, can rebound a bit, can set good screen and can post up or spread the floor.

Not an allstar or a sexy move but one that could pay alot of dividends.

He would fit in well and with jjj being more of a small ball 5, their need for JV is lessened. Idk if that injury makes them more tied to JV or not. Also, Turner from Indy also might work for Hayward +14. They have Sabonius as a 5 anyway and Hayward could fit into their 4 spot as a spacer.

[beeshma]

These players all have significant negatives:

Smart - chucker, “leads” by having emotional breakdown
Kemba - have to hide him on defense, lower production in playoffs
Theis - in the bottom half of starting centers
Hayward - extremely unreliable production
Morris - not a playoff rotation player

Upgrade all of them.

no Morris on the Celtics anymore.

And Smart had a playoffs of 14.5ppg, 5.5rpg, 4.5apg, 1.5spg on 40% and 33% while playing exceptionally stellar defense.

He has been and will continue to be, very fine for your 4th option.

Biggest problems was Kemba and Hayward and center.

Ooops, brain freeze. I meant Robert Williams, not "Morris"

I think what you said about Smart is fair. He is certainly a winning player, but why hasn't anything been done about his negatives? Is Smart not able to understand winning basketball at a deeper level? Is the coaching staff unable to coach him properly?

[100proof]

These players all have significant negatives:

Smart - chucker, “leads” by having emotional breakdown
Kemba - have to hide him on defense, lower production in playoffs
Theis - in the bottom half of starting centers
Hayward - extremely unreliable production
Morris - not a playoff rotation player

Upgrade all of them.

no Morris on the Celtics anymore.

And Smart had a playoffs of 14.5ppg, 5.5rpg, 4.5apg, 1.5spg on 40% and 33% while playing exceptionally stellar defense.

He has been and will continue to be, very fine for your 4th option.

Biggest problems was Kemba and Hayward and center.

Ooops, brain freeze. I meant Robert Williams, not "Morris"

I think what you said about Smart is fair. He is certainly a winning player, but why hasn't anything been done about his negatives? Is Smart not able to understand winning basketball at a deeper level? Is the coaching staff unable to coach him properly?

Beacsue he is a guy that will sacrifice everything, it kind of comes with the part.

Good and bad.

[asero]

There you go. Kemba for Turner or Sabonis will be a good one.

[fbalmeida]

Hayward is a fine piece but God damn is he overpaid as ****.

In an ideal scenario for the Celtics, Hayward would be on a 20 something M contract and would be dealt for a nice 2-way center. On his contract, I'd probably consider shipping him for Kevin Love straight up.

[bisme37]

I don't think any huge moves are needed. Our two best players are still years away from their primes and have already had a lot of success.

Necessary tweaks include:
a) finding a defensive big who's actually big, but not overly lumbering.
b) adding a scoring punch to the bench.
c) rounding things out with an experienced vet or two.

[at87on]

umm.. you think there's a market for either of their contracts?

Why not just let the players grow and get better? They have a young, fantastic core.

Of course.. you got the Knicks scrub franchise, hit up Orlando they always down to do stupid crap, same with Chicago, Suns, etc... always a market.

If I’m Ainge I package Kemba + #14, #26, #30, #47, 1R in 21’, to Cleveland for Drummond.

Leaves you w:

Smart
Brown
Hayward
Tatum
Drummond

As your starting 5

Luckily for the Celtics, you're not their GM.

[Curmudgeon]

Why would Cleveland want Kemba since they've already expended two high picks on Sexton and Garland? Hayward would be more interesting to the Cavs.

[themoneyteam2]

Hayward is a fine piece but God damn is he overpaid as ****.

In an ideal scenario for the Celtics, Hayward would be on a 20 something M contract and would be dealt for a nice 2-way center. On his contract, I'd probably consider shipping him for Kevin Love straight up.

There is no world where Kevin Love is an upgrade over Hayward on the Celtics lol

[themoneyteam2]

If they were to make a drastic move, it'd probably be to get Myles Turner.

Smart is probably most likely to be traded. He's 26 and still doesn't know his role offensively. Why the hell is he taking a career high 22 FGA in an elimination game and leading the team in shots in the 2nd half?

[NoZoLakers]

Hayward is a bad contract and will be treated as such, I could see him being flipped for a big man on a bad contract, Serge Ibaka anyone?

Serge is a FA

[Curmudgeon]

Hayward is a fine piece but God damn is he overpaid as ****.

In an ideal scenario for the Celtics, Hayward would be on a 20 something M contract and would be dealt for a nice 2-way center. On his contract, I'd probably consider shipping him for Kevin Love straight up.

There is no world where Kevin Love is an upgrade over Hayward on the Celtics lol

Are you kidding? Love is a massive upgrade if he's healthy. Did you watch yesterday's game? Hayward couldn't even make a layup. It's pretty clear that he never got back into basketball shape in the bubble.

As for predicting roster moves, Tatum, Brown, Smart will stay. Everyone else is in play, and it just depends on how the cap situation falls out and what other teams are willing to do. The team will certainly exercise its $5M option on Theis, who could be an attractive trade chip at that price. Kanter will probably exercise is $5M player option, but that is less certain. Hayward will opt in, and will become a tradeable $34M expiring contract. Wanamaker is likely gone. He's a decent backup but they have Tremont Waters to replace him.

I think Ainge will trade his first round picks-- all three if he can.

[themoneyteam2]

Hayward is a fine piece but God damn is he overpaid as ****.

In an ideal scenario for the Celtics, Hayward would be on a 20 something M contract and would be dealt for a nice 2-way center. On his contract, I'd probably consider shipping him for Kevin Love straight up.

There is no world where Kevin Love is an upgrade over Hayward on the Celtics lol

Are you kidding? Love is a massive upgrade if he's healthy. Did you watch yesterday's game? Hayward couldn't even make a layup. It's pretty clear that he never got back into basketball shape in the bubble.

Love isn't even close to an upgrade over Hayward lol. Complete negative on defense.

Yeah so you're dogging Hayward despite him clearly not being 100% in the bubble.

[Lalouie]

they'll rent some shooters. their starting5 is set

[Curmudgeon]

they'll rent some shooters. their starting5 is set

Yes, that's likely-- Belinelli types.

I'm for trading Hayward to the Kings for Barnes and Belelica. You get another deceont defensive wing and a shooter off the bench. Meanwhile the rebuilding Kings get out from under Barnes' deal. But will Celtics ownership pay luxury tax? Stay tuned.