Beasley Re-Sign for 4 years / $60M

Jedzz · Post #81 » by **Jedzz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:32 am

UnFadeable21 wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:
Wood got 3 years 41 million bro

About 17 per
That's not 17 per

Thanks for the correct bro lol, that would be 51 million.

Right, 14.6 13.6 per which is right where closer to where Beasley is at. They still may trade Beasley, this just sets a value.

Jedzz · Post #82 » by **Jedzz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:33 am

Dual wrote:What happened with Culver, I thought he was a great prospect. Did he was really bad last season to throw the towel with him so soon?

Saving him for the Booker trade.

Jedzz · Post #83 » by **Jedzz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:37 am

jpatrick wrote:Way way more than I thought he’d get. With only a handful of teams having space, his restricted status, and that pesky felony charge, this is really poor negotiating.

Seems like they respect the skill of shooting. That and this just makes him another asset for Rosas. They didn't try to take advantage of his ongoing situation which can look good to other players.

UnFadeable21 · Post #84 » by **UnFadeable21** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:43 am

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jpatrick wrote:Beasley has a nice 10-12 game run, gets $15/yr. Christian Wood had a similar 10-12 game streak where he averaged 20/10 and hit 3s, he gets a reasonable $9/year.

Plus, Wood was unrestricted while Beasley was restricted.

Wood got 3 years 41 million bro

About 17 per

Your numbers are wrong. That would be 13.67 per. It would be 17 per if he got 51.

Thanks for the correction bro

Jedzz · Post #85 » by **Jedzz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:45 am

Calinks wrote:It's less than Rubios contract and I think Beasley will be a lot more valuable. If he has a 20PPG level season 15 per year is going to look like a bargain. Also him turning down 30 year 30 million has worked out. If he didn't screw up so badly this summer he probably could have commanded more.

Also. Buddy Hield is on a four year 94 million dollar deal. It could be worse.

It could be way worse.

However I don't know if we can expect 20ppg now with who the team just drafted and added. They will be finding minutes for Rubio and Edwards now. Since Beasley was playing in the spring now try to fit in Rubio/Edwards. Where do the minutes come from?

Jedzz · Post #86 » by **Jedzz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:49 am

Ok great. Now trade Edwards/Culver/Okogie/Spellman and a 20 million TPE for Harden.

Shaka_Zulu · Post #87 » by **Shaka_Zulu** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:04 am

Im just happy we signed him and are keeping him for now. Was afraid we would dump him, or lowball him and he accepts qualifying, and later on bolts.

Slim Tubby · Post #88 » by **Slim Tubby** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:07 am

Jedzz wrote:Ok great. Now trade Edwards/Culver/Okogie/Spellman and a 20 million TPE for Harden.

That seems logical...even if we include all 3 of Ant, Culver and Okogie together, we will still have 16 guards on the roster.

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PharmD · Post #89 » by **PharmD** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:16 am

Shaka_Zulu wrote:Im just happy we signed him and are keeping him for now. Was afraid we would dump him, or lowball him and he accepts qualifying, and later on bolts.

His QO was like 3M. He couldn't turn down any long-term offer basically. I just can't imagine anyone was going to give him more than the MLE.

winforlose · Post #90 » by **winforlose** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:22 am

Loyalty matters. Beasley could have been in a very bad way thanks to the felony charges, instead he got paid what he would have made anyway. Now he is likely to stick around after his current contract is up. His attitude will be good, and he will be a leader. This is one of the few times where as long as they have an out if he is convicted, they did well by overpaying slightly.

Jedzz · Post #91 » by **Jedzz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:23 am

PharmD wrote:
Shaka_Zulu wrote:Im just happy we signed him and are keeping him for now. Was afraid we would dump him, or lowball him and he accepts qualifying, and later on bolts.

His QO was like 3M. He couldn't turn down any long-term offer basically. I just can't imagine anyone was going to give him more than the MLE.

How many here thought they could get Harris for less then the MLE. Many were suggesting we do that as if. Then he signs for 13.6 18.75per now. It's just not rational market value at MLE to expect shooters this good and Beasley is better than Harris. I know, the legal junk, I get it. But the team doesn't win any points with current/future players by bring shrewd dicks come contract time, and they don't get any value from him if they let him walk. Remember they traded assets for him. Now he's a player asset for them that if they have to move him has a set value. We have to expect there is something in the contract related to if he can't play due to legal issues.

Jedzz · Post #92 » by **Jedzz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:27 am

winforlose wrote:Loyalty matters. Beasley could have been in a very bad way thanks to the felony charges, instead he got paid what he would have made anyway. Now he is likely to stick around after his current contract is up. His attitude will be good, and he will be a leader. This is one of the few times where as long as they have an out if he is convicted, they did well by overpaying slightly.

Agree, but I don't call it an overpay for what he does on the court. It's only an overpay if you are looking at it from the perspective of taking advantage of his situation. To which your loyalty point is a good one. There has to be an out in there if needed.

UnFadeable21 · Post #93 » by **UnFadeable21** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:41 am

His contract number just makes him more likely to be in a trade for a superstar when the time comes. You need that high cap number to match

Rookie-Mistake · Post #94 » by **Rookie-Mistake** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:44 am

This is Madness.

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Jedzz · Post #95 » by **Jedzz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 am

Joe Harris making 4/75 (18.75per) and he's already proven to only produce 13-15 pts a game when starting or 30+ minute games over the past three seasons. Even when he's like the last healthy man standing there. So if anything I think the Beasley deal is a discount as is.

Rookie-Mistake · Post #96 » by **Rookie-Mistake** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:56 am

If I'm paying. I would rather Harris. Elite shooting. What's Malik proven? 14 games?

Jedzz wrote:Joe Harris making 4/75 (18.75per) and he's already proven to only produce 13-15 pts a game when starting or 30+ minute games over the past three seasons. Even when he's like the last healthy man standing there. So if anything I think the Beasley deal is a discount as is.

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jpatrick · Post #97 » by **jpatrick** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:59 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:If I'm paying. I would rather Harris. Elite shooting. What's Malik proven? 14 games?
Jedzz wrote:Joe Harris making 4/75 (18.75per) and he's already proven to only produce 13-15 pts a game when starting or 30+ minute games over the past three seasons. Even when he's like the last healthy man standing there. So if anything I think the Beasley deal is a discount as is.

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Harris has a much longer track record plus positional versatility (SG/SF). He’s earned more. Beasley is younger though.

Jedzz · Post #98 » by **Jedzz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:04 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:If I'm paying. I would rather Harris. Elite shooting. What's Malik proven? 14 games?
Jedzz wrote:Joe Harris making 4/75 (18.75per) and he's already proven to only produce 13-15 pts a game when starting or 30+ minute games over the past three seasons. Even when he's like the last healthy man standing there. So if anything I think the Beasley deal is a discount as is.

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Maybe you haven't been around but I've covered this. Malik was Denver's hot shooter for years. GO, look it up.

Beasley has a full year with Denver shooting 40% in the books. Whenever he's been a starter he's produced a lot more than Harris. Which is another reason i couldn't stand the 6th man suggestions. However now with the Edwards pick and Rubio additions if the team keeps Beasley I'm unsure where his high minutes are coming from or who else is going to lose minutes to make this all work the best. Might have to settle for high efficiency from him when he gets minutes. That or trades are a coming.

Jedzz · Post #99 » by **Jedzz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:10 am

jpatrick wrote:
Rookie-Mistake wrote:If I'm paying. I would rather Harris. Elite shooting. What's Malik proven? 14 games?
Jedzz wrote:Joe Harris making 4/75 (18.75per) and he's already proven to only produce 13-15 pts a game when starting or 30+ minute games over the past three seasons. Even when he's like the last healthy man standing there. So if anything I think the Beasley deal is a discount as is.

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Harris has a much longer track record plus positional versatility (SG/SF). He’s earned more. Beasley is younger though.

Harris' track record proves less scoring potential. Malik didn't just arrive on the NBA scene. He's got years in but was used by Denver mostly from bench minutes yet they certainly used him heavily even from there with higher 3pt shot attempts than you would expect from a bench guy. They knew what they had. They were just trying to get away with keeping everyone.

Post #100 » by **Calinks** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:16 am

At the end of the day I think it comes down to this. Beasley is a prototypical fit for our system. He's probably as good as you are going to get without having a superstar in his role for what WE want to do. His value to this team is higher than it may be elsewhere. There also aren't a lot players attainable that can do what he can for us. When those guys are available you have to get them. I dont know if there is anyone available to us now we could get that is potentially projected better at a similar price.