RingColluder wrote:og15 wrote:RingColluder wrote:The Spurs are a gimme. The Grizzlies are a gimme. But we blew both of those chances in that disastrous stretch 2 weeks ago

. I won't repeat the reason why
Suns are a horrible matchup for us. Ayton crushed us and outplayed Gobert numerous times in games I saw. CP3 and Booker are more lethal than any of the Jazz guards and both have similar depth, but better coaching with the Suns.
Utah are pretenders. I'll take the Lakers over them easily, even in 5 games if they match up.
It is what it is. I'm of the belief this team is weaker than last year's team, and IF Porzingis is health (major if) I give them the advantage. But we'll see. As with the Lakers, we don't DESERVE anything this season if we can't beat the Mavs in round 1. NO EXCUSES.
Luka to me is just as if not scarier than Steph to play against bc he can pass and shoot like a madman. Should be a fun one, I think..
Spurs and Grizzlies will need to win two games to get in, and they can only get to 8th, so no point counting them until they actually are able to get in.
Utah is going to end up with 52 wins, Clippers would need 5 more wins to get there, problem is that they had 6 losses since the time you are specifying and two were to Phoenix and Denver. Another was to New York with everyone playing. So even if they won all the easier games, we'd still be looking at 50 wins and the third seed, so no opportunity for getting those weak teams anyways.
Had we won the gimme Pelicans game and at least one of 2 against Phoenix or Denver, we were pretty sure to my knowledge only down at the time maybe a game at most to get to the 1 seed. Utah was struggling at the time too.
Now count the recent losses where we basically tanked and we could have gotten the 1 seed. As I said at the time, that pelicans game KILLED us and basically had us thrown in the flag after the loss to either Phoenix or Denver. With the easy Thunder Houston games (and Toronto and sorta Charlotte) we could have gotten that 1 seed easily. But no... that awful stretch cost us everything.
Now we face the MAVS!!
Beating Phoenix or Denver can't just be added to the mix

, what? There's no logical reason why beating the Pelicans would have suddenly meant they beat one of Phoenix or Denver, I'm not sure how that works, why would we now change those outcomes? The Clippers didn't quit after losing to New Orleans. Changing the outcomes of the games they rested against bad teams, yea, makes sense, changing other outcomes has no logic behind it. That's just trying to argue for no reason.
The math would still be off anyways, splitting Denver and Phoenix would still just get the Clippers to 51, and Utah is still getting 52 wins, that gives Clippers 2nd, but doesn't really make sense to just add a win against a top 4 team that didn't actually happen.