[WOJ] Wizards and Head Coach Scott Brooks Part Ways.....

NatP4 · Post #81 » by **NatP4** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:23 pm

Couldn't agree more, PIF. There was absolutely no intent to bring Brooks back.

They did a pretty good job with the “Wizards and Brooks can’t come to terms on new deal, mutually agree to part ways” I doubt Westbrook will get worked up over that.

Ontario · Post #82 » by **Ontario** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:35 pm

I got to tell you I'm amazed by how excited everyone in here seems to be. As a long time OKC fan I know for a fact Scott Brooks isn't a great coach, but he also isn't a bad coach either.

The Wiz are going to have a hard time finding someone better.

Two things stick out to me here

1. The Wiz season was for sure a rough one, but very little of what caused that can be laid at coach Brooks feet.

2. If starting negotiations then letting them fail was simply a "brilliant" ploy to pacify players who liked Scott, I promise you those same players will see through said ploy pretty easily. Just because he isn't the coach anymore doesn't mean no one on the roster is ever going to speak to him again lol.

Post #83 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:35 pm

payitforward wrote:
NatP4 wrote:Never would’ve expected these big moves by Sheppard. Moving Wall, letting Brooks go, completely turning over the roster. He’s put this organization in a much better position in just a couple of years.

That's a great point, Nat! & good for you for making the point right now.

Just over two years ago, nate was ruminating about whether & how much we should pay Jabari Parker to stay, & I was advocating for us to keep Sam Dekker!

Damn! that seems like a different world, doesn't it? Wow....

Dekker should probably get another chance at the NBA. He was in the "Turkish Super League" this season and made 45% of his 3's (high volume) and was 3rd in the league in EFG.

Post #84 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:46 pm

Ontario wrote:I got to tell you I'm amazed by how excited everyone in here seems to be. As a long time OKC fan I know for a fact Scott Brooks isn't a great coach, but he also isn't a bad coach either.

The Wiz are going to have a hard time finding someone better.

Two things stick out to me here

1. The Wiz season was for sure a rough one, but very little of what caused that can be laid at coach Brooks feet.

2. If starting negotiations then letting them fail was simply a "brilliant" ploy to pacify players who liked Scott, I promise you those same players will see through said ploy pretty easily. Just because he isn't the coach anymore doesn't mean no one on the roster is ever going to speak to him again lol.

Number 2 has been explained several times. Almost certainly, there were no negotiations. The quote the team gave to the media was simply to be nice to Brooks - nothing more or less. And the veteran players understand that. Of course some players will keep in touch with him - why wouldn't they?

On number 1, he's a below average coach - I don't think there's any disagreement with that. The proof in the pudding will be if there's much - if any - demand for him as a coach.

80sballboy · Post #85 » by **80sballboy** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:15 pm

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80sballboy · Post #86 » by **80sballboy** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:22 pm

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badinage · Post #87 » by **badinage** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:22 pm

NatP4 wrote:Never would’ve expected these big moves by Sheppard. Moving Wall, letting Brooks go, completely turning over the roster. He’s put this organization in a much better position in just a couple of years.

AND the culture shift of his talk -- he explicitly said, "This isn't a team you run it back with."

Clearly, the bar is not just get into the playoffs, or go and make a run in the playoffs. He's got his eyes on the prize.

That's new.

That's huge.

How can anyone not like the guy?

Not saying he's perfect ... not saying that every move has been genius ... but all in all, the body of work is fantastic. And in a short stretch of time.

JAR69 · Post #88 » by **JAR69** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:24 pm

payitforward wrote:It's hard to believe that she can have succeeded in the Spurs organization & not be pretty good at the least. Transplanting some Spurs DNA into this organization would be a major plus.

It would also be a great move for Ted to be the one who hired the first woman coach in NBA history. Meanwhile, this might be the moment for Hammon -- she's interviewing for the Portland & Orlando jobs & has been rumored for Boston as well.

If I were Tommy, I'd be in Ted's office right now, saying "Look, let's make history -- & if it doesn't work out, I'll take the blame."

Also seems like something Laurene Powell Jobs would support.

Ontario · Post #89 » by **Ontario** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:28 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Ontario wrote:I got to tell you I'm amazed by how excited everyone in here seems to be. As a long time OKC fan I know for a fact Scott Brooks isn't a great coach, but he also isn't a bad coach either.

The Wiz are going to have a hard time finding someone better.

Two things stick out to me here

1. The Wiz season was for sure a rough one, but very little of what caused that can be laid at coach Brooks feet.

2. If starting negotiations then letting them fail was simply a "brilliant" ploy to pacify players who liked Scott, I promise you those same players will see through said ploy pretty easily. Just because he isn't the coach anymore doesn't mean no one on the roster is ever going to speak to him again lol.

Number 2 has been explained several times. Almost certainly, there were no negotiations. The quote the team gave to the media was simply to be nice to Brooks - nothing more or less. And the veteran players understand that. Of course some players will keep in touch with him - why wouldn't they?

On number 1, he's a below average coach - I don't think there's any disagreement with that. The proof in the pudding will be if there's much - if any - demand for him as a coach.

Brooks will have zero issue getting a gig, it might be a while before a NBA head-coaching gig becomes available to him, but being an assistant or like some have suggesting moving to NCAA will both be easily available.

Actually as he was only let go in OKC as management trying to show Durant they were open to exploring every avenue to keep him happy, I wouldn't be suprised if Sam Presti reaches out to Scott to rejoin the OKC family in some capacity.

Dark Faze · Post #90 » by **Dark Faze** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:47 pm

I think we'll chase Sam Cassell since he has a history with us and should be cheap. We'll see.

Post #91 » by **nate33** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:56 pm

NatP4 wrote:Never would’ve expected these big moves by Sheppard. Moving Wall, letting Brooks go, completely turning over the roster. He’s put this organization in a much better position in just a couple of years.

Agreed.

Sheppard has been consistently good so far in his term as GM. He has made shrewd free agency acquisitions, good trades, and has pretty much handled every major decision with thoughtfulness and due diligence. I don't know yet if he is a great GM, but he certainly doesn't suck. The only thing he has done that I would characterize as a glaring mistake in retrospect is the failure to trade Bertans when his value was highest. But even that is justifiable given his consistently good on/off differentials.

Post #92 » by **nate33** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:57 pm

Dark Faze wrote:I think we'll chase Sam Cassell since he has a history with us and should be cheap. We'll see.

I really don't think so.

Sheppard has done nothing in his tenure that suggests he is so short-sighted and lazy in his thinking. Sheppard is going to conduct a thorough search and probably land someone pretty good. It won't just be a familiar face.

80sballboy · Post #93 » by **80sballboy** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:58 pm

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Post #94 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:05 pm

And Van Gundy has been fired. He got 1 season with the Pelicans. We gave Brooks how many years, and they gave SVG 1. Seems like the best way to do these things is somewhere in between. His assistant, Teresa Weatherspoon, is a candidate to replace him.

TGW · Post #95 » by **TGW** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:15 pm

Dark Faze wrote:I think we'll chase Sam Cassell since he has a history with us and should be cheap. We'll see.

That would not be good. He was the one who endorsed Wall taking more mid-range jumpshots when he was an assistant here.

Post #96 » by **nate33** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:18 pm

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My interpretation:
He wants to make a run at Coach Bud.

NatP4 · Post #97 » by **NatP4** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:18 pm

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DCZards · Post #98 » by **DCZards** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:24 pm

TGW wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:I think we'll chase Sam Cassell since he has a history with us and should be cheap. We'll see.

That would not be good. He was the one who endorsed Wall taking more mid-range jumpshots when he was an assistant here.

I'm not sure that's true...and even if it is that was at least 7 years ago. I wouldn't hold that against Sam, especially if he was simply trying to help a young Wall develop his all-around game.

Cassell should definitely be on the short-list for the Zards HC job.

Wizardspride · Post #99 » by **Wizardspride** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:34 pm

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NatP4 · Post #100 » by **NatP4** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:36 pm

nate33 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:

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My interpretation:
He wants to make a run at Coach Bud.

I would be happy with Bud. He plays the good players and is a very intelligent guy.

Under Bud, the Hawks were a top 10 defensive team just about every year besides the last year, which was a complete rebuilding season with an awful roster. Same thing in Milwaukee, top 10 defense all 3 seasons.