IT'S LIKELY: Bronny James is 18 and short (about 6'1/2" barefoot) so his size+skills won't make him a real nba player

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Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Bronny James is 17 and short (no more than 6'3" barefoot), so he probably won't ever be a real nba pl 

Post#81 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 8:30 pm

rockmanslim wrote:This got me wondering, has there ever been a great NBA player whose father was also a great NBA player?

The closest I can come up with is Klay and Mychal Thompson, but Mychal wasn't considered an NBA great, and Klay himself is only borderline great.

Anyone?


Depends on great.

Rick Barry had 3 sons play in the league. Brent was pretty good. Dell Curry and Steph (plus Seth), Arvydas Sabonis and Domatas Sabonis has some really high potential. Danny Schayes didn't make the hall like his dad but he played 1100 nba games.
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Post#82 » by nobay » Thu Oct 7, 2021 8:50 pm

I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.
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Post#83 » by DCasey91 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 8:51 pm

nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


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Post#84 » by DCasey91 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 8:52 pm



Looks pretty good to me, who cares he’s 17 still a long way to go. Looks composed, polished, guard size that can pass, shoot and defend and is ranked. Fine prospect
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Post#85 » by TheFutureMM » Thu Oct 7, 2021 8:53 pm

I've been following him loosely since he was a kid and he just seems like a good not great prospect all-around. Which is honestly OK.

I wonder what's better for LBJs legacy? Playing with Bronny as a second round draft pick for a season or having Bronny play on UNC/Duke/Kentucky/Kansas as a solid contributing player? I think the latter is better personally.
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Post#86 » by HEAT33 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 8:53 pm

Wilt must have a few sons in the NBA
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Post#87 » by nobay » Thu Oct 7, 2021 8:55 pm

Dell Curry was not an all time legend. He was a high level role player. :nod:

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nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


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Post#88 » by AbeVigodaLive » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:01 pm

nobay wrote:Dell Curry was not an all time legend. He was a high level role player. :nod:

DCasey91 wrote:
nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


Steph Curry.




Oh gotcha. So not only did tens of millions of random ballers and 99.9999% of other NBA players not surpass the league's all-time greatest players... neither did the 30 or 40 children of those all-time legends.

In other news, I'm so disappointed in Bol Bol not being as tall as his dad.
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Post#89 » by Gibson22 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:01 pm

nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


You know what's the real reason behind that? It's that there are a lot more role players than stars. There are 400 nba players at any time, but only like 15 of them are good enough to be considered stars
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Post#90 » by ropjhk » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:02 pm

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nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


Steph Curry.


Kobe Bryant

Though I think the OP meant to say that no NBA legend has been surpassed by his son... and it's debatable whether we should call Dell Curry an NBA legend.
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Post#91 » by Lalouie » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:05 pm

levon wrote:so he's 6 4+ in shoes but that somehow prevents him from being an NBA player?


i think he means bronny might not enjoy the physical advantage of his dad, ie there are definite advantage to being physically superior in a 1on1 game such as baskteball. making the guarantee of playing with lebron seems less likely, skill level notwithstanding

so maybe lebron joins his son the gleague,,,,,or italian league, which if you ask me might turn out pretty well for the nba overseas :wink:
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Post#92 » by payton2kemp » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:05 pm

nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


lol I mean is this really a conversation that needs to be had. You're talking about like 20-30 players who could be considered legendary. An extremely small pool of players, has nothing to with growing up privileged. Any kid of a NBA player even if they're a bench player grows up quite well. Steph Curry grew up privileged, so did Klay Thompson.
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Post#93 » by Maxthirty » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:06 pm

nobay wrote:Dell Curry was not an all time legend. He was a high level role player. :nod:

DCasey91 wrote:
nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


Steph Curry.


Steph had the drive and he grew up privileged. I THINK I’ve heard a few people mentions Kobe’s drive as well. And both of them surpassed their fathers.
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Post#94 » by Lalouie » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:07 pm

nobay wrote:I've had this conversation with other friends of mine..not specifically about Bronny but sons of all time legend players. There has never been a son that has surpassed their father in the NBA. If you grow up privileged, you're missing that hunger/drive to be the best. Domantas is a very good player, but not better than his father at his peak. It's kind of historical..look at MJ's sons. But they still live great lives.


naw. if anything it's about the watering down of the talent. privelege doesn't superscede talent
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Post#95 » by payton2kemp » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:07 pm

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It's unfortunate. The kid has barely grown in the last couple years, couple years and a half. He's no more than 6'3 barefoot. He may be a little taller than guys like curry, kyrie, but he's without a doubt smaller than dwade. I would be very surprised if he ever reaches dwade's size, I think he has reached his final height. Unfortunately for Lebron, whose biggest goal right now is to play with/against his son and for him to have a good nba career, and for Lebron's fans like me, that's probably a death sentence on the kid's nba chances. On the other end, bryce is looking big as hell, if he keeps growing it's definitely time to follow him. He has shown good shooting, and now good size as well, but no athleticism and therefore everything that comes with it basketball wise, but let's see from this season on.

I followed him since he was 9 or so, especially his freshman season (sophomore season and aau freshman summer were wasted by covid and this year he got a torn meniscus, so since 2020 aau summer he has played very little, let's hope he bounces back this last 2 hs years), so let me give you a summary of his game. He's always been good, but never special. He's 6'3, decent strength, fast and has hops. Has a good shooting stroke and he knows how to play all around. Unfortunately, he doesn't have elite talent. First of all he has a pg body, maybe a bigger than average pg but not even a smaller sg body. Maybe if he gets bigger he can have a small sg body, but that's a stretch. At that size, you need incredible talent to be a real nba player. Bronny, while very fast and bouncy in a vacuum, doesn't have great basketball athleticism. He's very slow on his feet and doesn't have great explosion. Most importantly, he isn't very good at creating off the dribble or at overall creation/self creation. While he has a very solid shooting form, he's a decent, not great, shooter. It all comes down to size. If he was 6'6", he could easily be a very good 3&D wing, who can also drive to the cup sometimes and pass, high iq. At 6'3", he doesn't have good enough skils, athleticism. If you followed his career, in most of his teams (don't even consider his freshman sierra canyon team, who had two nba players like zaire williams and bj boston, and a lot of high major d1 talent while he was only a freshman) he was always like the 4-5th guy. Which isn't bad, because he could contribute in elite teams and sometimes be one of the best on the floor, but he wasn't ever the guy or one of the main guys. Even leaving out the super highly ranked kids like mikey williams, dior johnson, elijah fisher etc. his teams always had someone who dominated with his shooting (gabe cupps), someone with size, someone with athleticism, while he was always nice all-around but not THAT GUY.
Again, I'm not saying he's bad. 6'3, good shooting, good iq, athletic, all of that. But at that size you need elite creation, dribbling, or playmaking ability which he doesn't have (at an elite high school level, he struggles to bring the ball up the floor), or elite athleticism which he doesn't have (he never blows by defender), or you need to be an absolute dead-eye shooter, or amazing defense. I'not saying you gott have all of those. If I had to say, he isn't that far from the standard as far as defense and shooting and iq. As far as athleticism, he isn't functionally athletic but he can maybe get there as he has some tools. What it's really lacking is the overall skill/driblling, creation, tigh handle under pressure etc.
At the end of the day, he will definitely go to an important d1 school, and he has a lot of time to grow. He's also got all of the resources in the world and teams will probably draft him if he shows the slightest signs of being an nba player. If he can get college playing time, and improve year by year, maybe he has a chance. As far as rankings go, he's 49th in his class on espn, 32th on 247, and overall in the 30-40 range in various recruiting sites.


You're title is clickbait, lots of great 6'3 or less NBA players. He won't make the NBA because he stinks, not because of his height.
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Post#96 » by nobay » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:10 pm

I meant legendary players who's sons had surpassed them. I didn't communicate that properly. And privileged isn't the right word..maybe it's having the shadow of greatness and not being able to ever overcome that. But I agree what someone said is the sample size of legendary players is really small.

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nobay wrote:Dell Curry was not an all time legend. He was a high level role player. :nod:

DCasey91 wrote:
Steph Curry.


Steph had the drive and he grew up privileged. I THINK I’ve heard a few people mentions Kobe’s drive as well. And both of them surpassed their fathers.
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Post#97 » by Egg Nog » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:19 pm

lol...if the selection criteria is that the dad is a legend, the odds that his son will surpass him are obviously incredibly small.

Not really surprising at all.
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Post#98 » by mediocrityrules » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:27 pm

Giannis was 6'8" when drafted at 18. He's now 6'11". Growth spurts happen.
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Post#99 » by Tomjas » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:31 pm

Incredibly unfair but also understandable to compare him to his Dad

More chance of him choosing another path than playing basketball
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Post#100 » by dautjazz » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:39 pm

Wade was 6' 3.75" without shoes, so they are roughly the same height. MJ and Kobe were actually 6' 4.5" without shoe. I believe he'll be just fine.
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im 20, and i did grow up watching MJ play in the 90's.

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