PG: Short Handed Bucks Take Care of Indy

[ShootingtheJ]

I fully expect to resign Pat. Bud loves Pat, Pat seems to love the Bucks and Milwaukee, and I don't think he'll get some massive offer where the Bucks offer won't be atleast competitive.

And, most importantly, Giannis loves Pat.

I would be shocked if he isn't back next year.

Yeah Grayson getting the extension sets him up as a prime trade candidate after the season, assuming he shows out like we expect.

[sidney lanier]

I fully expect to resign Pat. Bud loves Pat, Pat seems to love the Bucks and Milwaukee, and I don't think he'll get some massive offer where the Bucks offer won't be atleast competitive.

And, most importantly, Giannis loves Pat.

I would be shocked if he isn't back next year.

He seems pretty lovable. Not to mention the fact that, as I used to say on the Brewers board (to vehement disagreement) about Martin Maldonado when the Brewers had him, and why he was preferable to Jonathan Lucroy: he's got a gun.

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[leroyjw10]

Didn't see the game, but the positive notes on Nwora's all-around game are really fun!

That said, in the teensy small-sample 4-game set, he hasn't actually been good at the thing he's supposed to be good at: shooting.
-He's shooting 37.5% overall, and 33% from 3.
-Fortunately both of those are likely to improve.

Grayson Allen is 39.5% overall, and 31.5% from 3. Again, both are likely to improve.

But yeah, thus far the two guys expected to be excellent outside snipers haven't really been hitting at an efficient level. And, they're 3-1 anyway. If/when both of those guys start shooting better, the offense will only look better and better.

It's early and I'm sure it'll come around, but Nwora's slow offensive start reminds of Keston Hiura. Great offensive player as a rookie, but all anyone could talk about was his defense, or lack thereof. So he spends a lot of time working on his defense, but then he loses his offensive rhythm. Hopefully he's better at hitting 3s than Hiura is at hitting fastballs.

[theFireBlanket]

It was a surprising, bonus win. Thankfully got a return on the investment of not sitting the rest of the key players.

Never gotten the negativity on Pat, especially given his contracts. He's a reliable, well-rounded, bargain. But no, not as good as Donte, let alone better, injuries aside. Maybe prisoner of the moment, there.

Pat took a step in the playoffs. Donte hasn't ever had that stage in the NBA, so wait & see IMO. And I'm a Donte stan.

[paulpressey25]

Great win. I expected the Indy bigs to do a lot more damage than they did.

We will forever think the Indy bigs are better than they actually are.

Because we love to flog ourselves for drafting Thon over Domas

That was always a bad pick.

This is going to sound like I'm taking a shot at Domas, but I think if he's your 2nd best player, it's going to be hard to win many games.

With Sabonis, it has never been about whether he'd be on the level of Giannis/Midds/Jrue to win a title. It was always about a team devoid of future assets in 2016, that wouldn't be in the lottery anytime in the near future. You needed to simply come away with a good asset. Sabonis would have been that asset. Arguably he would have replaced Ersan, and then you figure out what to do with him later.

[emunney]

We will forever think the Indy bigs are better than they actually are.

Because we love to flog ourselves for drafting Thon over Domas

That was always a bad pick.

This is going to sound like I'm taking a shot at Domas, but I think if he's your 2nd best player, it's going to be hard to win many games.

With Sabonis, it has never been about whether he'd be on the level of Giannis/Midds/Jrue to win a title. It was always about a team devoid of future assets in 2016, that wouldn't be in the lottery anytime in the near future. You needed to simply come away with a good asset. Sabonis would have been that asset. Arguably he would have replaced Ersan, and then you figure out what to do with him later.

I didn't do it well enough but I was attempting to separate the "we should have drafted him" argument from the "we should have him" argument. We should have drafted him and we should have traded him by now.

[paulpressey25]

I didn't do it well enough but I was attempting to separate the "we should have drafted him" argument from the "we should have him" argument. We should have drafted him and we should have traded him by now.

Sort of assumed that, but I'm still emotionally scarred from that one, so I respond reflexively. That was sort of the apex of the Lasry/Kidd/Hammond trio of incompetent personnel moves. (although I grant, they did pull Brogdon from that 2nd round, which saved a lot).

[paulpressey25]

Never gotten the negativity on Pat, especially given his contracts. He's a reliable, well-rounded, bargain. But no, not as good as Donte, let alone better, injuries aside. Maybe prisoner of the moment, there.

Think Pat has now become a better player than Donte. The past 12-months he's shown he can enter a game and make big plays. Shots, rebounds, steals and blocks. We're up **** creek the past year without this 2021 version of Pat C.

30 years from now on RGM, we'll have someone join with a Planet Pat username, and they'll have to explain to the kids how important that guy was to the Bucks three-peat title teams.

[Ron Swanson]

Siakam was pretty obviously the guy they whiffed on, not Sabonis. Especially if they were gonna draft someone 10th overall that was being mocked in the late-1st range, which Thon was at the time.

[jschligs]

Will be interesting to see if they keep trotting Justin Robinson out there if Jrue is gonna be sidelined any longer. Only 4 games but he's been flat out terrible and the numbers back up the eye test.

It's amazing how much we've struggled to find a decent back up guard. Like Hill is serviceable at times, but we've struck out on every option we've brought in the last couple of years.

[GoldenAntlers]

nba really needs to come up with a streaming service without blackout rules. its exhausting having to find illegal streams because their normal services dont work.

It's terrible. I am even willing to pay. **** cable companies. Nobody gives a **** if they get their money. I spend so much energy clicking ads only for the stream to drop right before a major play. I'm convinced heightened energy is connected to technological failures. There needs to be a solution - THIS YEAR. Sick of this ****.

[MickeyDavis]

Didn't see the game, but the positive notes on Nwora's all-around game are really fun!

That said, in the teensy small-sample 4-game set, he hasn't actually been good at the thing he's supposed to be good at: shooting.
-He's shooting 37.5% overall, and 33% from 3.
-Fortunately both of those are likely to improve.

Grayson Allen is 39.5% overall, and 31.5% from 3. Again, both are likely to improve.

But yeah, thus far the two guys expected to be excellent outside snipers haven't really been hitting at an efficient level. And, they're 3-1 anyway. If/when both of those guys start shooting better, the offense will only look better and better.

It's early and I'm sure it'll come around, but Nwora's slow offensive start reminds of Keston Hiura. Great offensive player as a rookie, but all anyone could talk about was his defense, or lack thereof. So he spends a lot of time working on his defense, but then he loses his offensive rhythm. Hopefully he's better at hitting 3s than Hiura is at hitting fastballs.

I think the main thing with Nwora now is that he is part of the regular rotation, playing with starters and other rotation players. Last year and in Summer League he was playing with end of the bench and camp guys. He was suppose to be the #1 option. Now he's not. I think scoring will always be his main strength but he's showing he's at least working on other aspects of his game.

[Fotis St]

Nwora had a legit nice role player game. Maybe he's done trying to prove himself by racking up points and is ready to role. If he can be more of a small ball 4 than Khris has been we're cooking.

Jrue
Allen
Mids
Nwora
Giannis

I think Thanasis is way better at the dunker spot than Nwora, a better defender too, but Nwora is a better shooter and offensive player in theory. Lets not forget Semi too. That's a good trio for backup PF minutes.

The problem is that we are loaded there and are really thin at PG and C position.
Horst needs to get us a C/PF player cause Lopez and Portis are not as healthy as last year.
Kalaitzakis and the robinson needs to get cut and get a 6'11 mobile big who doesn't brick FTs.
I think roster wise Donte can fill all the backup PG minutes needed when Hill sucks.
So to sum it up the only obvious flaw of our current roster is a 3rd string Center asap. Not sure what Mamu can do at C, will see, his chance is right now.

[Ron Swanson]

Definitely heartening to see Nwora actually do the little things (rebound, make the simple pass, willingly defend and contest shots) with the starters. That was always the question with him and I'd imagine the shooting percentages will eventually come around. Question now is if/when everyone's healthy, is he the 3rd, 4th, or 5th guy off the bench? Unless Donte is just a shell of his former self, I still can't imagine the playoff rotation changes all that much (Jrue/Middleton/Giannis/Lopez/Allen/Bobby/Pat/DDV/Hill is pretty locked in).

[aboveAverage]

Was watching Giannis highlights from last night, and I’m still in awe of him. Even after watching him play hundreds of times at this level, he never ceases to amaze me. That combination of size, agility, athleticism, ball handling, defensive instincts and passing at 7 feet tall is simply unbelievable. And he’s getting better still.

Watching Indiana throwing everything they could think of at Giannis and still failing to stop him was crazy.

[MikeIsGood]

nba really needs to come up with a streaming service without blackout rules. its exhausting having to find illegal streams because their normal services dont work.

It's terrible. I am even willing to pay. **** cable companies. Nobody gives a **** if they get their money. I spend so much energy clicking ads only for the stream to drop right before a major play. I'm convinced heightened energy is connected to technological failures. There needs to be a solution - THIS YEAR. Sick of this ****.

NBA league pass is - by far - the worst of the available sports league services, too. The interface is terrible on all platforms, poor quality, the blackout rules themselves are stupid, and bad customer service. I ranted at them last year when TNT pulled a Bucks game because we were winning by too much; I couldn't "just turn on the local" because I was in GA and pay for league pass. They literally just sent me a link to their TOS.

Happily back in WI so I don't have to deal with that bull anymore.

[paulpressey25]

Has anyone heard anything on Donte's health and return date?

[Ruzious]

Giannis on: 115.8 off 103.5 def = +12.3
Giannis off: 105.9 off 127.6 def = - 21.7

We really need a big to come back, we're cratering when Giannis sits.

Of course, that will change some when Portis returns - not to mention Lopez.

[Ruzious]

Has anyone heard anything on Donte's health and return date?

No time table yet - according to SportsEdge.com.

Donte DiVincenzo (left ankle) still remains without a timetable to return he mentioned in last Monday's media day.
"A date? I have no idea," DiVincenzo said. "But whenever that is, I'll be 110 percent. I'm not going to come back at 90, 95 [percent]. I'll be 110 percent ready to go and give everything I have to the team." DiVincenzo tore a ligament in his left ankle during Game 3 of Milwaukee's Eastern Conference first-round series against Miami. He and the Bucks seem to be taking the cautious route with his recovery, so expect DiVincenzo to miss the start of the season, and stay tuned for updates on his progress. Still, though, he is worth a late-round flier in most formats.

SOURCE: ESPN
Oct 4, 2021, 12:34 PM ET

[Turk Nowitzki]

Has anyone heard anything on Donte's health and return date?

No time table yet - according to SportsEdge.com.

Donte DiVincenzo (left ankle) still remains without a timetable to return he mentioned in last Monday's media day.
"A date? I have no idea," DiVincenzo said. "But whenever that is, I'll be 110 percent. I'm not going to come back at 90, 95 [percent]. I'll be 110 percent ready to go and give everything I have to the team." DiVincenzo tore a ligament in his left ankle during Game 3 of Milwaukee's Eastern Conference first-round series against Miami. He and the Bucks seem to be taking the cautious route with his recovery, so expect DiVincenzo to miss the start of the season, and stay tuned for updates on his progress. Still, though, he is worth a late-round flier in most formats.

SOURCE: ESPN
Oct 4, 2021, 12:34 PM ET

That's dated October 4th so already 3 weeks have passed with no additional news. They have certainly been pretty closed off with info regarding all their injuries this season so far.