The Real Problem -- Lack of a True Point Guard

[ddb]

Beal's value is down from this summer. The plan is working! He's going to look great in Celtics green

Horford, Romeo and 2 -1sts for Beal.

XD

Smart/Pritchard
Beal/Richardson
Brown/Nesmith or Romeo
Tatum/Grant
Timelord/

I dont know, would be pretty weak at backup Center. gonna have to pass.

So you get a new backup center via waiver wire. not hard to find a decent big these days that can play 15-20 minutes.

[Larry_Russell]

Beal's value is down from this summer. The plan is working! He's going to look great in Celtics green

Horford, Romeo and 2 -1sts for Beal.

XD

Smart/Pritchard
Beal/Richardson
Brown/Nesmith or Romeo
Tatum/Grant
Timelord/

I dont know, would be pretty weak at backup Center. gonna have to pass.

So you get a new backup center via waiver wire. not hard to find a decent big these days that can play 15-20 minutes.

Well I was joking,

And team would still have Kanter/Bruno as backups

[ddb]

Horford, Romeo and 2 -1sts for Beal.

XD

Smart/Pritchard
Beal/Richardson
Brown/Nesmith or Romeo
Tatum/Grant
Timelord/

I dont know, would be pretty weak at backup Center. gonna have to pass.

So you get a new backup center via waiver wire. not hard to find a decent big these days that can play 15-20 minutes.

Well I was joking,

And team would still have Kanter/Bruno as backups

haha missed that!

[winforlose]

I mentioned this on your trade board, but this seems on topic so I will ask here as well. Jordan McLaughlin is the Timberwolves third string PG. He is slumping this year but has recently found his game and been huge for us. I was thinking about a swap with Pritchard.

[Parliament10]

I mentioned this on your trade board, but this seems on topic so I will ask here as well. Jordan McLaughlin is the Timberwolves third string PG. He is slumping this year but has recently found his game and been huge for us. I was thinking about a swap with Pritchard.

Naw. We're pretty high on Pritchard. Plus, we're likely about to Trade Schröder.

[Scoonie]

If they can't get Jaylen Brunson or Dejounte Murray, they should seriously look at trading for Monte Morris from the Nuggets: He's averaging 12.6 PPG and 4.2 APG on 47.2@ FG, 37.1% 3-PT, and 83.7% FT:

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/5864/

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Extremely low turnovers as well. He actually set a collegiate record for assist-to-turnover ratio in his career. He wouldn't be super cheap, but he wouldn't break the bank either. We could likely get him without trading Tatum, Brown, or TimeLord. He's been starting for them with Jamal Murray injured, but will be going back to the bench when he comes back.

I wholeheartedly agree that the lack of a true-starting-caliber point guard is our biggest problem. It needs to be figured out by next season.

[darylbe]

That's what happens when we pursue nothing but undersized small forwards for 6 years.

[moonie_mcgee]

We have 3 points with Smart, Schröder and Pritch. Although they're not suited for a title run, they're not why we're out of the top 4. To me that's front court depth. That said, ya an uptempo, playmaking, scoring upgrade at the point would be huge.

[Jammer]

Well, after all the shuffling at the Trade Deadline,
there are probably 7 Teams where Smart starts,
and 10 where he wouldn't even get on the floor as the backup

10 Teams with a Better Starter AND BETTER BACKUP than Smart
Brooklyn - Goran Dragic / Kyrie Irving / maybe Patty Mills if you don't think of him as an SG
Chicago - Lonzo Ball / Coby White
Cleveland - Darius Garland / Colin Sexton (injured) / Ricky Rubio (injured)
Dallas - Luka Doncic / Jalen Brunson / Spencer Dinwiddie (pretty damn close to Smart)
Denver - Jamal Murray (injured) / Monte Morris
Indiana - Tyrese Haliburton / Malcom Brogdan (may get traded) / T. J. McConnell
Memphis - Ja Morant / Tyus Jones
Minnesota - D'Angelo Russell / Patrick Beverly
San Antonio - Dejounte Murray / Tre Jones
Utah - Mike Conley / Jordan Clarkson

13 Teams with a CLEAR Better Starter
Atlanta - Trae Young
Charlotte - LaMelo Ball
Houston - John Wall (on shelf until can be traded, giving Dennis Schroder an opportunity to be re-signed)
Lakers - Russell Westbrook (would Lakers have Westbrook or Malik Monk come off bench behind Smart???)
Miami - Kyle Lowry
Milwaukee - Jrue Holiday
OKC- Shai Gilgeous Alexander
Philadelphia - Tyrese Maxey
Phoenix - Chris Paul (injured thumb)
Portland - Damian Lilliard (abdominal surgery)
Sacramento - De'Aaron Fox
Toronto - Fred Van Fleet
Warriors - Steph Curry

7 Teams where Smart would start on Day 1
Boston
Detroit
New York - will be interesting what Derrick Rose has left after Ankle Surgery in December
Los Angeles Clippers
New Orleans
Orlando (probably over Cole Anthony)
Washington

Still hoping for Jrue Holiday type. Smart played like Jrue Holiday since late January until the break, but it was mostly against the bottom half of the NBA. Will be interesting to see if his recently elevated game CONSISTENTLY REMAINS against the Top 8 Teams.

[Shak_Celts]

Well, after all the shuffling at the Trade Deadline,
there are probably 7 Teams where Smart starts,
and 10 where he wouldn't even get on the floor as the backup

10 Teams with a Better Starter AND BETTER BACKUP than Smart
Brooklyn - Goran Dragic / Kyrie Irving / maybe Patty Mills if you don't think of him as an SG
Chicago - Lonzo Ball / Coby White
Cleveland - Darius Garland / Colin Sexton (injured) / Ricky Rubio (injured)
Dallas - Luka Doncic / Jalen Brunson / Spencer Dinwiddie (pretty damn close to Smart)
Denver - Jamal Murray (injured) / Monte Morris
Indiana - Tyrese Haliburton / Malcom Brogdan (may get traded) / T. J. McConnell
Memphis - Ja Morant / Tyus Jones
Minnesota - D'Angelo Russell / Patrick Beverly
San Antonio - Dejounte Murray / Tre Jones
Utah - Mike Conley / Jordan Clarkson

13 Teams with a CLEAR Better Starter
Atlanta - Trae Young
Charlotte - LaMelo Ball
Houston - John Wall (on shelf until can be traded, giving Dennis Schroder an opportunity to be re-signed)
Lakers - Russell Westbrook (would Lakers have Westbrook or Malik Monk come off bench behind Smart???)
Miami - Kyle Lowry
Milwaukee - Jrue Holiday
OKC- Shai Gilgeous Alexander
Philadelphia - Tyrese Maxey
Phoenix - Chris Paul (injured thumb)
Portland - Damian Lilliard (abdominal surgery)
Sacramento - De'Aaron Fox
Toronto - Fred Van Fleet
Warriors - Steph Curry

7 Teams where Smart would start on Day 1
Boston
Detroit
New York - will be interesting what Derrick Rose has left after Ankle Surgery in December
Los Angeles Clippers
New Orleans
Orlando (probably over Cole Anthony)
Washington

Still hoping for Jrue Holiday type. Smart played like Jrue Holiday since late January until the break, but it was mostly against the bottom half of the NBA. Will be interesting to see if his recently elevated game CONSISTENTLY REMAINS against the Top 8 Teams.

LMBO?? IKYFL, yeah right! Some of the other names I didn't highlight, I hesitate on too! Some of the highlighted couldn't hold Smart's jock even if he had baby balls! Also, John Wall before the 5k injuries, sure!

[zoyathedestroya]

Who Wore It Better??

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Need. Our. Stars. to. Move. Without. the. Ball. And Marcus will deliver that pass.

[1st banana]

Who Wore It Better??

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Need. Our. Stars. to. Move. Without. the. Ball. And Marcus will deliver that pass.

Jaylen mildly channeling dee brown with the no look.

Tatums was cleaner looking but jaylens was more body to body I’ll take them both shot into my veins.

[Gomes3PC]

Here's Marcus' stats post-COVID:

29 MPG, 50%/38%/74% shooting, 8.2 FGA/g 3.0 FTA/g, 12.2 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 5.5 APG, 2.2 TO/G, 1.4 SPG, 0.2 BPG, +17.4 net rating (!)

Now, maybe this shooting isn't going to carry at these levels, but if we get something like this the rest of the year with Smart, we truly do not need another starting PG. Maybe an upgrade in backup PG could be nice (no disrespect to FastPP), but few PGs in the NBA match Smart's current combo of defense and willingness to play as a pass-first PG next to two score-first players like Tatum/Brown.

[djFan71]

Who Wore It Better??

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Need. Our. Stars. to. Move. Without. the. Ball. And Marcus will deliver that pass.

I like JB's a touch more since it's through, not around a guy. But both are quite nice.

[celticfan42487]

I've been thinking, we're just one fully healthy CP3 addition away from winning a championship. Get it done RealGM.

[Jaqua92]

Here's Marcus' stats post-COVID:

29 MPG, 50%/38%/74% shooting, 8.2 FGA/g 3.0 FTA/g, 12.2 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 5.5 APG, 2.2 TO/G, 1.4 SPG, 0.2 BPG, +17.4 net rating (!)

Now, maybe this shooting isn't going to carry at these levels, but if we get something like this the rest of the year with Smart, we truly do not need another starting PG. Maybe an upgrade in backup PG could be nice (no disrespect to FastPP), but few PGs in the NBA match Smart's current combo of defense and willingness to play as a pass-first PG next to two score-first players like Tatum/Brown.

Smart's post COVID stats include him shooting 12% better than his career averages.

This is unsustainable. When he dials it down to 6-8 shots per game, great. Everything is fine because this stretch has him shooting well, and it's making people turn a blind eye to a potential problem.

Since the deadline has passed, he has become trigger happy again..fans are just fine with it because he's shooting at..again..an absurdly unsustainable rate.

The deadline Smart we got, who was taking like 7 shots per game for a month is the best version of him. The version of him that showed discipline.

But this is just same old Marcus. Shooting unsustainability well.

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[steefP2]

Here's Marcus' stats post-COVID:

29 MPG, 50%/38%/74% shooting, 8.2 FGA/g 3.0 FTA/g, 12.2 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 5.5 APG, 2.2 TO/G, 1.4 SPG, 0.2 BPG, +17.4 net rating (!)

Now, maybe this shooting isn't going to carry at these levels, but if we get something like this the rest of the year with Smart, we truly do not need another starting PG. Maybe an upgrade in backup PG could be nice (no disrespect to FastPP), but few PGs in the NBA match Smart's current combo of defense and willingness to play as a pass-first PG next to two score-first players like Tatum/Brown.

Smart's post COVID stats include him shooting 12% better than his career averages.

This is unsustainable. When he dials it down to 6-8 shots per game, great. Everything is fine because this stretch has him shooting well, and it's making people turn a blind eye to a potential problem.

Since the deadline has passed, he has become trigger happy again..fans are just fine with it because he's shooting at..again..an absurdly unsustainable rate.

The deadline Smart we got, who was taking like 7 shots per game for a month is the best version of him. The version of him that showed discipline.

But this is just same old Marcus. Shooting unsustainability well.

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Did you just skip over the 8.2 FGA part on accident ? or because it doesn't fit your narrative. Ill give the benefit of the doubt. But for the season he takes 10 shots a game and has dialed it DOWN since coming back from covid.... so just seems like you'll never be happy

[zoyathedestroya]

If you are thinking Harden, CP3, SGA, Murray, or Doncic, then yeah this team could use a true PG. If you are thinking Cam Payne, Tyus Jones, Pat Beverley, or Coby White, then no thanks.

[Gomes3PC]

Here's Marcus' stats post-COVID:

29 MPG, 50%/38%/74% shooting, 8.2 FGA/g 3.0 FTA/g, 12.2 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 5.5 APG, 2.2 TO/G, 1.4 SPG, 0.2 BPG, +17.4 net rating (!)

Now, maybe this shooting isn't going to carry at these levels, but if we get something like this the rest of the year with Smart, we truly do not need another starting PG. Maybe an upgrade in backup PG could be nice (no disrespect to FastPP), but few PGs in the NBA match Smart's current combo of defense and willingness to play as a pass-first PG next to two score-first players like Tatum/Brown.

Smart's post COVID stats include him shooting 12% better than his career averages.

This is unsustainable. When he dials it down to 6-8 shots per game, great. Everything is fine because this stretch has him shooting well, and it's making people turn a blind eye to a potential problem.

Since the deadline has passed, he has become trigger happy again..fans are just fine with it because he's shooting at..again..an absurdly unsustainable rate.

The deadline Smart we got, who was taking like 7 shots per game for a month is the best version of him. The version of him that showed discipline.

But this is just same old Marcus. Shooting unsustainability well.

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Reading comprehension is a struggle eh? He is taking 8 shots a game...that's what everyone is saying - he's settled back into a role of facilitator/defender.

[Slax]

If you are thinking Harden, CP3, SGA, Murray, or Doncic, then yeah this team could use a true PG. If you are thinking Cam Payne, Tyus Jones, Pat Beverley, or Coby White, then no thanks.

Hey now, I wouldn't mind a little extra help deepening the bench in case of injuries