Jokic 49/14/10 as DEN beats LAC

Sgt Major · Post #81 » by **Sgt Major** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:13 am

It did leave the floor, to be honest.

AleksandarN · Post #82 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:16 am

Sgt Major wrote:It did leave the floor, to be honest.

I didn't see it leave I saw a toe drag but I didnt see it leave the floor. But maybe I am wrong

Slacktard · Post #83 » by **Slacktard** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:36 am

Johnny Firpo wrote:
Slacktard wrote:So 41 mins for Jokic to get 49 vs 27 mins for Embiid to get 50.

If Embiid was 41 mins tonight he may have hit 70

He really does live in 76ers fans' heads rent-free. I did not know it was this bad.

Should I have quoted the different posters bringing up Embiid over the first couple of pages before I posted? Nah. You're right he lives rent free. Every time Embiid scored tonight I mentally tallied him against Jokic.

Yeppers. You got me. Busted.

Madhouse · Post #84 » by **Madhouse** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:40 am

When they are free agents in 2023, Jokic and Embiid should just team up and play together so we don’t have to hear this nonsense again and just enjoy watching them

AdagioPace · Post #85 » by **AdagioPace** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:13 am

Slacktard wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
Slacktard wrote:So 41 mins for Jokic to get 49 vs 27 mins for Embiid to get 50.

If Embiid was 41 mins tonight he may have hit 70

He really does live in 76ers fans' heads rent-free. I did not know it was this bad.

Should I have quoted the different posters bringing up Embiid over the first couple of pages before I posted? Nah. You're right he lives rent free. Every time Embiid scored tonight I mentally tallied him against Jokic.

Yeppers. You got me. Busted.

it seems that with Embiid is always about "what if" and not "what he did" according to his fans. If he played 80 games he would have won MVP, if he had played 40 minutes he would have scored 467 points.

Ryoga Hibiki · Post #86 » by **Ryoga Hibiki** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:11 am

Mickey8 wrote:There is no reason for him not to be this aggressive on the offensive end every night.

The reason is stamina

Dutchball97 · Post #87 » by **Dutchball97** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:34 am

There are arguments for more accomplished play-off performers like Giannis, LeBron, KD and Curry but just looking at current performance then yes Jokic is currently the best player in the league by just about any measure.

AdagioPace · Post #88 » by **AdagioPace** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:35 pm

I know PER it's almost useless nowadays but Jokic has been so unreal lately that it's always impressive when PER actually grows (approaching 33),past the season midpoint.

Mickey8 · Post #89 » by **Mickey8** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:48 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:
Mickey8 wrote:There is no reason for him not to be this aggressive on the offensive end every night.

The reason is stamina

Nothing to do with that.

Mickey8 · Post #90 » by **Mickey8** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:01 pm

Roscoe Sheed wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:Listen to him explaining the last play/ His BBIQ is truly amazing

Watch on YouTube

He traveled on that play- moved his pivot foot.

He also shot more free throws than the entire Clippers team. You'd think that the refs would show some sympathy with basically the entire Clippers roster out- but oh well. I can see why Lue could hardly speak after the game.

Zubac was literally pushing Jokic on the stomach on that play, he had his hand on it whole time, the other defender touched him too if we are going into small details, that pass was great, travel or not.

CobraCommander · Post #91 » by **CobraCommander** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:13 pm

If Jokic isn’t the best....

Naw f that prime Jokic is the absolute best.

It’s Jokic then Giannis then KD then Embiid and then Curry right now...

The only way Giannis can catch Jokic is if voters say Giannis Defense is so much better than Jokics significant offensive skills advantage over Giannis that they vote for Giannis. It’s great because Giannis and Jokic both on organic ordinary teams vs super teams.

Rastas · Post #92 » by **Rastas** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:25 pm

Sharkboy242 wrote:It sucks he was 1 point a way from a 50 point triple double. How many players have a 50 point triple double?

Well there is this 1 guy who has a whole bunch of them , probably a few 50 point Quadruple doubles if they counted blocks back in the day.
But he played in the 60s , and as I have been told here many times it was always against chain smoking plumbers and part time brick layers.

art_tatum · Post #93 » by **art_tatum** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:34 pm

Jokics the new triple double Westbrook but with PER and other stats still derived from boxscore. Top 5 player tho and better than Westbrook was.

Pachinko_ · Post #94 » by **Pachinko_** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:56 pm

Sgt Major wrote:It did leave the floor, to be honest.

Eh.
It's the NBA man, you have to tick off a long checklist before you can call a travel:
A) it has to be a travel, B) it can't be on the winning play, C) it can't be in a crucial game in the play offs, D) it can't be on the MVP, E) you have to let it go a couple of times first before you call it, etc etc

I have to say, I admire those NBA refs. They have some long checklists to work with.

eyeatoma · Post #95 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:02 pm

You guys are hilarious. Embiid did this in 27 minutes. The fastest 50 points of all time. Jokic was spectacular but he needed overtime to do it.

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Sgt Major · Post #96 » by **Sgt Major** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:06 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:
Sgt Major wrote:It did leave the floor, to be honest.

Eh.
It's the NBA man, you have to tick off a long checklist before you can call a travel:
A) it has to be a travel, B) it can't be on the winning play, C) it can't be in a crucial game in the play offs, D) it can't be on the MVP, E) you have to let it go a couple of times first before you call it, etc etc

I have to say, I admire those NBA refs. They have some long checklists to work with.

And you're not calling it in front of the NBA crowds instead of us lunatics in Greece and Serbia. :lol:

Imagine making a huge mistake this late in the game in OAKA, SEF or Pionir :lol:

Mickey8 · Post #97 » by **Mickey8** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:17 pm

eyeatoma wrote:You guys are hilarious. Embiid did this in 27 minutes. The fastest 50 points of all time. Jokic was spectacular but he needed overtime to do it.

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It doesn't matter , it was the great night for Jokic and he was clutch too , Embiid did it against the team who is tanking hard right now, it was the great performance but against the team who is in the full tanking mode.

ty 4191 · Post #98 » by **ty 4191** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:35 pm

KGtabake wrote:Appreciate the best big since Shaq.

Since the beginning of last season (Jokic 2.0) he has proven more skilled and more valuable than Shaq ever was. Shaq couldn't shoot anything like this or pass anything like this.

And, this season is no fluke. His last 120 games, since the beginning of last season, including the 2021 playoffs, Jokic is averaging 27.4/12.1/6.9/1.1 on .831 FT%, .377 3P% on +7.5 rTS% (.641 TS%).

Consider: The only player in NBA history the only player to average 27/12/7 for any single season was Oscar Robertson in 1961-1962, when there were (an all time record) 128 possessions per game. The last two years the NBA has averaged only 102 possessions per game. Jokic has kept up this ridiculous pace and efficiency for a season and a half!!

He also has the highest PER in NBA history this season.

Jokic is the best center since Kareem Abdul Jabaar.

ty 4191 · Post #99 » by **ty 4191** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:48 pm

Maverick41 wrote:Absolutely amazing player. The most offensively skilled and highest IQ big man I've ever seen.

By far. It's not even remotely close, and I've been following the NBA closely since 1986.

maxpower8888 · Post #100 » by **maxpower8888** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:50 pm

I think the "Jokic is a liability on defence" narrative is overblown. He's not the best shot blocker, but he does a great job at using his body to alter shots and he's great at timing his interceptions, he leads the league in steals per game for big men.

When you look at his stats, he's 2nd in the league in DBPM, 6th in DWS, and 20th in Defensive Rating for players that have played at least 20 games. People have to stop talking about him as if he's a bad defender. He's not elite by any stretch, but he's a pretty good defender.

Is Jokic the best player in the NBA?