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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#81 » by Neeva » Mon May 9, 2022 3:45 am

I liked what I saw of Claxton in playoffs and Nets probably can’t afford to keep him.Just 23 years old.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#82 » by Mamba4Goat » Mon May 9, 2022 4:26 am

The only RFAs that should be on our wishlist and likely be attainable are probably Jalen Smith, Mo Bamba, and Mitch Robinson. I don’t think Claxton is as likely as any of those three. I wouldn’t be opposed to signing a min center (Biyombo/WCS) and using the full MLE on a forward like Otto Porter Jr or Kyle Anderson though.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#83 » by Soca » Mon May 9, 2022 6:52 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:The only RFAs that should be on our wishlist and likely be attainable are probably Jalen Smith, Mo Bamba, and Mitch Robinson. I don’t think Claxton is as likely as any of those three. I wouldn’t be opposed to signing a min center (Biyombo/WCS) and using the full MLE on a forward like Otto Porter Jr or Kyle Anderson though.


Jalen Smith will be a UFA. Phoenix declined his option.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#84 » by minimus » Mon May 9, 2022 12:31 pm

MN7725 wrote:Thomas Bryant might be interesting, he'll be full season past his knee injury
pretty decent size with mobility (at least pre-injury), some outside shooting

Wiz have KP and Gafford on long-term contracts already, seems likely he'll be looking for new team

Naz's is probably better player at this point, and Bryant isn't that fundamentally different other than being longer and bit better rebounder

playing two of KAT/NAZ/Bryant together at same time is pretty iffy, in particular with how down sized playoffs are

but its pretty limited options for PF, combo forward types since every team wants that type of player, so a decently athletic "big" like Bryant might be the best you can do, in FA at least


From what I have seen Bryant is not a good, high IQ defender.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#85 » by NebWolvesFan » Mon May 9, 2022 2:06 pm

I know he likes where he's at, but he does have a player option. I would love to get Bobby Portis. For me, he's Patrick Beverley but in the front court. He's nasty, plays with a chip on his shoulder, and has serious playoff experience. He also makes enough 3s that he would fit seamless into Minnesota's game plan. I'm hoping he turns down his player option and an multi-year MLE would work.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#86 » by shrink » Mon May 9, 2022 3:53 pm

I haven’t seen much of Jalen Smith, but he’s 6-10 and only 215 pounds.

Don’t we already have guys like that we like better?
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#87 » by KGdaBom » Mon May 9, 2022 7:38 pm

shrink wrote:I haven’t seen much of Jalen Smith, but he’s 6-10 and only 215 pounds.

Don’t we already have guys like that we like better?

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HEIGHT: 6'11" (211 cm) WEIGHT: 217 lbs (98 kg) POSITION: PF -

I get wanting a player with some mass, but it's more about the player than the measurables.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#88 » by Mattya » Mon May 9, 2022 7:41 pm

shrink wrote:I haven’t seen much of Jalen Smith, but he’s 6-10 and only 215 pounds.

Don’t we already have guys like that we like better?


We don’t really have anyone who can rebound and space the floor. He can rebound and has showing flashes of spacing potential. I think that a pretty safe gamble. He reminds me a bit of Gorgui as I don’t think he can roll very smoothly and I question his ability to guard the 3 point line.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#89 » by shrink » Mon May 9, 2022 8:03 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
shrink wrote:I haven’t seen much of Jalen Smith, but he’s 6-10 and only 215 pounds.

Don’t we already have guys like that we like better?

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Kevin Garnett
HEIGHT: 6'11" (211 cm) WEIGHT: 217 lbs (98 kg) POSITION: PF -

I get wanting a player with some mass, but it's more about the player than the measurables.

We already have two Kevin Garnett’s?

I don’t know .. I’ll trust you guys, but I wish we could put different options in Finch’s hands.

What kind of offer do you think it would take?
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#90 » by Klomp » Mon May 9, 2022 8:50 pm

MN7725 wrote:
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KGdaBom wrote:1,000,000,000,000% yes offer Portis the full MLE.
It would have been great brining RoCo back, but that's not going to happen so Portis is definitely the target IMO.
For sure....I'd love to have him...but I would be massively surprised if Bucks don't bring both him & Connaugton back. I get that it most likely puts them into the lux...but they're both so critical in their rotation & what they do...just can't see them walking away from either one @ this point in their run?

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Portis signed that contract last season with Bucks with player option for 2022-23 so that he could establish Early Bird rights with Bucks, so he'll likely decline the PO and Bucks will be able to offer him more than full MLE with Early Bird ($11 mil+ first season)

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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#91 » by shangrila » Mon May 9, 2022 9:15 pm

Mamba4Goat wrote:The only RFAs that should be on our wishlist and likely be attainable are probably Jalen Smith, Mo Bamba, and Mitch Robinson. I don’t think Claxton is as likely as any of those three. I wouldn’t be opposed to signing a min center (Biyombo/WCS) and using the full MLE on a forward like Otto Porter Jr or Kyle Anderson though.

I'd love Mo Bamba, but I doubt both he and Robinson are realistic. Claxton might be, just due to the Nets' payroll...but it's still unlikely I agree.

Kevon Looney might be a good option to look into.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#92 » by MN7725 » Mon May 9, 2022 11:42 pm

minimus wrote:
MN7725 wrote:Thomas Bryant might be interesting, he'll be full season past his knee injury
pretty decent size with mobility (at least pre-injury), some outside shooting

Wiz have KP and Gafford on long-term contracts already, seems likely he'll be looking for new team

Naz's is probably better player at this point, and Bryant isn't that fundamentally different other than being longer and bit better rebounder

playing two of KAT/NAZ/Bryant together at same time is pretty iffy, in particular with how down sized playoffs are

but its pretty limited options for PF, combo forward types since every team wants that type of player, so a decently athletic "big" like Bryant might be the best you can do, in FA at least


From what I have seen Bryant is not a good, high IQ defender.


he's not, but a flawed player is what the Wolves are going to get (if anyone) in FA
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#93 » by moss_is_1 » Tue May 10, 2022 4:27 pm

MN7725 wrote:
minimus wrote:
MN7725 wrote:Thomas Bryant might be interesting, he'll be full season past his knee injury
pretty decent size with mobility (at least pre-injury), some outside shooting

Wiz have KP and Gafford on long-term contracts already, seems likely he'll be looking for new team

Naz's is probably better player at this point, and Bryant isn't that fundamentally different other than being longer and bit better rebounder

playing two of KAT/NAZ/Bryant together at same time is pretty iffy, in particular with how down sized playoffs are

but its pretty limited options for PF, combo forward types since every team wants that type of player, so a decently athletic "big" like Bryant might be the best you can do, in FA at least


From what I have seen Bryant is not a good, high IQ defender.


he's not, but a flawed player is what the Wolves are going to get (if anyone) in FA

Wouldn't want to offer him much, despite what's already been said. He seems like he's always hurt. 37 games played the last 2 seasons combined? Count me out.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#94 » by moss_is_1 » Tue May 10, 2022 6:00 pm

Bobby Portis is my #1 target by far. However I think its a pipe dream after learning Milwaukee can get bird rights for him.

some other guys who we may be able to get(that haven't
PG - Delon Wright - not a world beater but seems like a vet who can run the offense and play decent defense.
Dennis Schröder - Especially if we move Dlo. He was good for the Lakers and won a ring.

Wing - Pat Connaughton - Can the Bucks keep him and Portis? Real good 3 and D wing.
TJ Warren - Could be worth a look for cheap? When healthy is real good but hasn't been healthy in a long time
Victor Oladipo - Has looked good in the post-season with Miami

Forward - Kyle Anderson - Would be something different for us, mediocre athlete but he just knows how to play, smart, good defender and can handle. Would LOVE him coming off the bench.
Chris Boucher - I thought meh looking at his numbers, they were pretty bad and down, plus he's still rail thin. But, they were better in years past and after looking at on/off numbers, it seems Toronto is better offensively and defensively while he's on the floor.
Otto Porter - GSW can't keep him, someone will offer him more money. Defends and hits 3's - similar to Prince but probably better

Center - Isaiah Hartenstein - Doubt LAC can keep him and Zubac.
Nic Claxton - Still skinny but provides some things we need. his horrible FT% is a bit concerning.


There's other names but I've mentioned them before. I know realistically we'd have to make some moves to bring in multiple guys, plus the issue with roster spots. However Portis, and Anderson would be huge additions, even if we lost Prince. Then look into a Dlo trade and maybe bring in Corey Joseph or Delon Wright along with Jmac/Bev.
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Post#95 » by Klomp » Tue May 10, 2022 7:02 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:Bobby Portis is my #1 target by far. However I think its a pipe dream after learning Milwaukee can get bird rights for him.

some other guys who we may be able to get(that haven't
PG - Delon Wright - not a world beater but seems like a vet who can run the offense and play decent defense.
Dennis Schröder - Especially if we move Dlo. He was good for the Lakers and won a ring.

Wing - Pat Connaughton - Can the Bucks keep him and Portis? Real good 3 and D wing.
TJ Warren - Could be worth a look for cheap? When healthy is real good but hasn't been healthy in a long time
Victor Oladipo - Has looked good in the post-season with Miami

Forward - Kyle Anderson - Would be something different for us, mediocre athlete but he just knows how to play, smart, good defender and can handle. Would LOVE him coming off the bench.
Chris Boucher - I thought meh looking at his numbers, they were pretty bad and down, plus he's still rail thin. But, they were better in years past and after looking at on/off numbers, it seems Toronto is better offensively and defensively while he's on the floor.
Otto Porter - GSW can't keep him, someone will offer him more money. Defends and hits 3's - similar to Prince but probably better

Center - Isaiah Hartenstein - Doubt LAC can keep him and Zubac.
Nic Claxton - Still skinny but provides some things we need. his horrible FT% is a bit concerning.


There's other names but I've mentioned them before. I know realistically we'd have to make some moves to bring in multiple guys, plus the issue with roster spots. However Portis, and Anderson would be huge additions, even if we lost Prince. Then look into a Dlo trade and maybe bring in Corey Joseph or Delon Wright along with Jmac/Bev.

A few names I really like here who I think could be realistic targets: Delon Wright, Kyle Anderson. And yes, Portis is still at the top for me, though less realistic than I originally hoped.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#96 » by cmoss84 » Tue May 10, 2022 7:16 pm

I know many of you on here are FA/salary cap gurus. A few thoughts here.

1) Would it be POSSIBLE (however unlikely it might be) to sign Beal to join KAT and Ant as the big 3? I guess it would take trading Dlo and other bench pieces...and signing cheap surrounding pieces? Hell, if we had those 3, I would be fine with Bev and Jmac handling PG duties.

2) If #1 happened, would E. Payton or Payton II help at PG with Bev and JMac?

3) Vet min players I'd be interested in: Milsap, B. Griffin, Ellington, Patty Mills (and DeAndre Jordan/McGee-but doubt they leave their teams). Any of these guys potentially on the radar guys?

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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#97 » by moss_is_1 » Tue May 10, 2022 7:18 pm

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moss_is_1 wrote:Bobby Portis is my #1 target by far. However I think its a pipe dream after learning Milwaukee can get bird rights for him.

some other guys who we may be able to get(that haven't
PG - Delon Wright - not a world beater but seems like a vet who can run the offense and play decent defense.
Dennis Schröder - Especially if we move Dlo. He was good for the Lakers and won a ring.

Wing - Pat Connaughton - Can the Bucks keep him and Portis? Real good 3 and D wing.
TJ Warren - Could be worth a look for cheap? When healthy is real good but hasn't been healthy in a long time
Victor Oladipo - Has looked good in the post-season with Miami

Forward - Kyle Anderson - Would be something different for us, mediocre athlete but he just knows how to play, smart, good defender and can handle. Would LOVE him coming off the bench.
Chris Boucher - I thought meh looking at his numbers, they were pretty bad and down, plus he's still rail thin. But, they were better in years past and after looking at on/off numbers, it seems Toronto is better offensively and defensively while he's on the floor.
Otto Porter - GSW can't keep him, someone will offer him more money. Defends and hits 3's - similar to Prince but probably better

Center - Isaiah Hartenstein - Doubt LAC can keep him and Zubac.
Nic Claxton - Still skinny but provides some things we need. his horrible FT% is a bit concerning.


There's other names but I've mentioned them before. I know realistically we'd have to make some moves to bring in multiple guys, plus the issue with roster spots. However Portis, and Anderson would be huge additions, even if we lost Prince. Then look into a Dlo trade and maybe bring in Corey Joseph or Delon Wright along with Jmac/Bev.

A few names I really like here who I think could be realistic targets: Delon Wright, Kyle Anderson. And yes, Portis is still at the top for me, though less realistic than I originally hoped.


I think Wright could come a little cheaper since he's never really shown to be a starter but is more than solid as a backup. Anderson is for sure going to get the full MLE offered by multiple teams, just wonder if Memphis will pay more to keep him. Otherwise they let him walk with incoming extensions for Ja, possibly Brooks, and Clarke, and Jacksons extension will be starting. If they only keep 1 of Tyus/Anderson I think it'll be Tyus they let walk because they have Melton on the roster as well.
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Post#98 » by Klomp » Tue May 10, 2022 7:20 pm

cmoss84 wrote:1) Would it be POSSIBLE (however unlikely it might be) to sign Beal to join KAT and Ant as the big 3? I guess it would take trading Dlo and other bench pieces...and signing cheap surrounding pieces? Hell, if we had those 3, I would be fine with Bev and Jmac handling PG duties.

Possible as long as he chose to come here, assuming he opts out of his final year. If he plays out the contract, he would have no say in the matter.

Regardless, either way we would have to match contracts. He'd cost upwards of $40 million, so just Russell wouldn't be enough to match.
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Re: 2022 Free Agency 

Post#99 » by moss_is_1 » Tue May 10, 2022 7:22 pm

cmoss84 wrote:I know many of you on here are FA/salary cap gurus. A few thoughts here.

1) Would it be POSSIBLE (however unlikely it might be) to sign Beal to join KAT and Ant as the big 3? I guess it would take trading Dlo and other bench pieces...and signing cheap surrounding pieces? Hell, if we had those 3, I would be fine with Bev and Jmac handling PG duties.

2) If #1 happened, would E. Payton or Payton II help at PG with Bev and JMac?

3) Vet min players I'd be interested in: Milsap, B. Griffin, Ellington, Patty Mills (and DeAndre Jordan/McGee-but doubt they leave their teams). Any of these guys potentially on the radar guys?

thanks for your input!

1. Possible, yes. It would take a sign and trade since we don't have the capspace. So Dlo+ would have to be going out.

2. Payton II moreso than Elfrid, IMO. POA defender, would have great shooters around him to offset his lack of a jumper.

3. I'm not sure how much Milsap, Griffin or Ellington have left in the tank. Mills is someone I'd like, he could probably get a tax MLE from someone unless its a true contender? I doubt he'd take the minimum from us. McGee would be nice, Jordan is cooked though.
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Post#100 » by Klomp » Tue May 10, 2022 7:23 pm

How much will Tyus Jones make on the open market? If slightly above MLE, I wonder if he would take a hometown discount at MLE price (assuming a Russell trade was in the works or already done).
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