Game #80: LAL @ LAC—THE BATTLE FOR LA—Wednesday 4/5 7PM, ESPN

[Akklaim1]

42 wins. That’s 12 straight winning seasons, currently the longest active streak in the NBA. Let it sink in, boys. But don’t take it for granted.

[clipperlover]

Wonder if LeBron's rough 1st half was because he felt disrespected by the Clippers. Clips primarily defended him with Gordon and Mann.

In the 4th, LeBron took defensive responsibility for Kawhi who basically rested on offense as his teammates torched the other Lakers. Kawhi wasn't even trying to get involved offensively. Not because LeBron was playing great defense against him, but because the rest of the Lakers were getting out worked.

[clipperlover]

42 wins. That’s 12 straight winning seasons, currently the longest active streak in the NBA. Let it sink in, boys. But don’t take it for granted.

Sac is only WC team with a winning road record. The Clippers and Nuggets are the only other WC teams that have a chance at winning road records.

Clips beat Portland on Saturday and it will be the 1st time all season they are at 5 games above .500 at home all season.

[clipperlover]

STFU - https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/36091351

Clips played a double OT game on a Friday night, had their team plane struck by lightning and lose power, and still almost beat the Nuggets on the road in regulation on Sunday night.

Have to love the Lakers fans trying to prop themselves up by saying that our reward for beating them was getting Phoenix in Round 1. So, what would their prize have been for winning? Same potential result. If they are that scared of Phoenix, they should be glad we beat them last night.

[The High Cyde]

I honestly like our chances against PHX, could really use a healthy PG though

[Dynamix]

[esqtvd]

Kawhi -3, Powell -1. Both useless bums. Bench them. Where's Sr at?

This misunderstands how coaches use plus/minus. 4 or 5 either way in a single game is statistical noise but over 5 or 15 games can be quite important. The cream consistently rises to the top.

1-7 shooting, 5 points 2 rebs 1 asst. Now that sounds like disaster but Ty gave Batum 30 minutes because he was plus+13. Clearly good things were happening with him on the floor. And good coaches don't even have to look at the stat sheet. They already know what it will say.

The Clippers outscored their opponents by 60 points last season during Mann’s team-high 2,317 minutes while playing him at nearly every position as attrition and coach Tyronn Lue’s lineups dictated. And yes, he is aware and proud of that plus/minus.

“That’s dope,” he said.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/story/2022-06-06/clippers-terance-mann-question-and-answer-nba-championship-contender

[esqtvd]

42 wins. That’s 12 straight winning seasons, currently the longest active streak in the NBA. Let it sink in, boys. But don’t take it for granted.

Man, I sure don't. 2 winning seasons and one .500 in all the years before CP3 arrived. Winning seasons ever since.

[PeteyPablo]

Great win by the Clippers last night. They looked spry and engaged most of the game. Does that mean they were not bringing their best on other nights when they lost to bottom seed teams this year?

Did we see a fatigued Lakers team ?

2 games left before the Post Season.

[Ballings7]

Wonderful. Will sleep like a baby.

Best win of the 2022-23 season and one of the best wins of the last 4 years. Glad somebody enjoyed it.

This is supposed to be fun!!

Agreed! Great to see.

Special win.

[clipperlover]

42 wins. That’s 12 straight winning seasons, currently the longest active streak in the NBA. Let it sink in, boys. But don’t take it for granted.

Man, I sure don't. 2 winning seasons and one .500 in all the years before CP3 arrived. Winning seasons ever since.

Winning seasons is not that big of a deal. Let's put into perspective.

During that same 12 yr timeframe:
1. Clippers missed the playoffs twice
2. Clips got bounced in the 1st Round 4 times (so half of the winning seasons ended up with not advancing to the Semis)
3. Clips were never seeded at #1 in the conference and only made #2 once (Memphis did it multiple times while going through 5 coaches in those 12 years)
4. Nuggets, Mavericks, Kings, Lakers, Pelicans, Grizzlies and Suns all had sub .400 seasons (over half of them have had sub .300 seasons)
Pelicans and Kings are the only two of that group not to advance to a WC Finals (3 of those teams beat us along the way)

None of those teams blew one 3-1 playoff leads, let alone 2.

At $1.8B in payroll over that timeframe, the Clippers have only been outspent by GS (not including luxury tax payments). The Warriors have spent that money with titles and Finals appearances to show for it. Are we winning because we are good or are we winning because Ballmer just spends relentlessly? Only Brooklyn has spent more on salary with less to show for it. Denver has spent nearly $190M less (a season of payroll) AND has the 2 time reigning MVP whom they drafted and developed.

Last 12 yrs salary
Team Sum of Salary Salary Difference
LA Clippers $1,376,203,994.00
LA Lakers $1,318,273,024.00 $57,930,970.00
New Orleans $1,235,061,837.00 $141,142,157.00
Dallas $1,209,400,454.00 $166,803,540.00
Denver $1,184,737,878.00 $191,466,116.00
Memphis $1,183,969,422.00 $192,234,572.00
Phoenix $1,147,568,696.00 $228,635,298.00
Sacramento $1,091,112,248.00 $285,091,746.00


For all that money spent by Ballmer, the Clippers have never been higher than #9 in attendance. They were #7, #6 and #7 in the last three seasons of the Sterling ownership. Ballmer's time as owner has landed us in the 20s in attendance three times. Lots of money spent for poor attendance figures and no real home court advantage. The fan support in Staples in an embarrassment. Clips have only averaged over 18K per game one season since 2016/2017. Maybe dumping the corny antics during the game and clipping the fake wings of the ridiculous Chuck the Condor would be a good start. Hope the new stadium will be better. If not, at least it has toilets.

[esqtvd]

42 wins. That’s 12 straight winning seasons, currently the longest active streak in the NBA. Let it sink in, boys. But don’t take it for granted.

Man, I sure don't. 2 winning seasons and one .500 in all the years before CP3 arrived. Winning seasons ever since.

Winning seasons is not that big of a deal. Let's put into perspective.

During that same 12 yr timeframe:
1. Clippers missed the playoffs twice
2. Clips got bounced in the 1st Round 4 times (so half of the winning seasons ended up with not advancing to the Semis)
3. Clips were never seeded at #1 in the conference and only made #2 once (Memphis did it multiple times while going through 5 coaches in those 12 years)
4. Nuggets, Mavericks, Kings, Lakers, Pelicans, Grizzlies and Suns all had sub .400 seasons (over half of them have had sub .300 seasons)
Pelicans and Kings are the only two of that group not to advance to a WC Finals (3 of those teams beat us along the way)

None of those teams blew one 3-1 playoff leads, let alone 2.

At $1.8B in payroll over that timeframe, the Clippers have only been outspent by GS (not including luxury tax payments). The Warriors have spent that money with titles and Finals appearances to show for it. Are we winning because we are good or are we winning because Ballmer just spends relentlessly? Only Brooklyn has spent more on salary with less to show for it. Denver has spent nearly $190M less (a season of payroll) AND has the 2 time reigning MVP whom they drafted and developed.

Last 12 yrs salary
Team Sum of Salary Salary Difference
LA Clippers $1,376,203,994.00
LA Lakers $1,318,273,024.00 $57,930,970.00
New Orleans $1,235,061,837.00 $141,142,157.00
Dallas $1,209,400,454.00 $166,803,540.00
Denver $1,184,737,878.00 $191,466,116.00
Memphis $1,183,969,422.00 $192,234,572.00
Phoenix $1,147,568,696.00 $228,635,298.00
Sacramento $1,091,112,248.00 $285,091,746.00


For all that money spent by Ballmer, the Clippers have never been higher than #9 in attendance. They were #7, #6 and #7 in the last three seasons of the Sterling ownership. Ballmer's time as owner has landed us in the 20s in attendance three times. Lots of money spent for poor attendance figures and no real home court advantage. The fan support in Staples in an embarrassment. Clips have only averaged over 18K per game one season since 2016/2017. Maybe dumping the corny antics during the game and clipping the fake wings of the ridiculous Chuck the Condor would be a good start. Hope the new stadium will be better. If not, at least it has toilets.

I'm not a Ballmer fan in the LEAST. But that can wait for the off-season.

I'm just trying to enjoy this now? I've been Clipper Nation since the day they got to LA in 1984 and it was 27 years of almost unbroken misery until the CP3 trade.


Plenty of time for scapegoating, fingerpointing and I told-you-so-ing. Maybe damn soon if we get bounced early. And remember, Ballmer is the only guy in Clipperville who can't get fired. The buck stops there, and we will never know how much of this was HIS doing.

[The High Cyde]

Watching the Nuggets 3rd stringers giving a fully healthy Suns all they can handle, I think the Clips stand more than a punchers chance against Phoenix if they meet in the playoffs.

[esqtvd]

Watching the Nuggets 3rd stringers giving a fully healthy Suns all they can handle, I think the Clips stand more than a punchers chance against Phoenix if they meet in the playoffs.

DeAndre Jordan 30 min 6-6 11 rebs
Reggie Jackson 30 min 20-3-6

it is to laugh

[Akklaim1]

Man, I sure don't. 2 winning seasons and one .500 in all the years before CP3 arrived. Winning seasons ever since.

Winning seasons is not that big of a deal. Let's put into perspective.

During that same 12 yr timeframe:
1. Clippers missed the playoffs twice
2. Clips got bounced in the 1st Round 4 times (so half of the winning seasons ended up with not advancing to the Semis)
3. Clips were never seeded at #1 in the conference and only made #2 once (Memphis did it multiple times while going through 5 coaches in those 12 years)
4. Nuggets, Mavericks, Kings, Lakers, Pelicans, Grizzlies and Suns all had sub .400 seasons (over half of them have had sub .300 seasons)
Pelicans and Kings are the only two of that group not to advance to a WC Finals (3 of those teams beat us along the way)

None of those teams blew one 3-1 playoff leads, let alone 2.

At $1.8B in payroll over that timeframe, the Clippers have only been outspent by GS (not including luxury tax payments). The Warriors have spent that money with titles and Finals appearances to show for it. Are we winning because we are good or are we winning because Ballmer just spends relentlessly? Only Brooklyn has spent more on salary with less to show for it. Denver has spent nearly $190M less (a season of payroll) AND has the 2 time reigning MVP whom they drafted and developed.

Last 12 yrs salary
Team Sum of Salary Salary Difference
LA Clippers $1,376,203,994.00
LA Lakers $1,318,273,024.00 $57,930,970.00
New Orleans $1,235,061,837.00 $141,142,157.00
Dallas $1,209,400,454.00 $166,803,540.00
Denver $1,184,737,878.00 $191,466,116.00
Memphis $1,183,969,422.00 $192,234,572.00
Phoenix $1,147,568,696.00 $228,635,298.00
Sacramento $1,091,112,248.00 $285,091,746.00


For all that money spent by Ballmer, the Clippers have never been higher than #9 in attendance. They were #7, #6 and #7 in the last three seasons of the Sterling ownership. Ballmer's time as owner has landed us in the 20s in attendance three times. Lots of money spent for poor attendance figures and no real home court advantage. The fan support in Staples in an embarrassment. Clips have only averaged over 18K per game one season since 2016/2017. Maybe dumping the corny antics during the game and clipping the fake wings of the ridiculous Chuck the Condor would be a good start. Hope the new stadium will be better. If not, at least it has toilets.

I'm not a Ballmer fan in the LEAST. But that can wait for the off-season.

I'm just trying to enjoy this now? I've been Clipper Nation since the day they got to LA in 1984 and it was 27 years of almost unbroken misery until the CP3 trade.


Plenty of time for scapegoating, fingerpointing and I told-you-so-ing. Maybe damn soon if we get bounced early. And remember, Ballmer is the only guy in Clipperville who can't get fired. The buck stops there, and we will never know how much of this was HIS doing.

You’re still putting emphasis on paid attendance per game? It is an outdated stat especially in this day and age. You can now watch games on your phone with 5G speed with unlimited data.

You’re right, though. We could use better fan support at our home games. But it’s always been that way even during the Lob City era. We had a sellout streak but whenever we played popular teams, the so-called fans that had season tickets always sold them to visiting trolls.

If you’re at a game itself, you can feel the crowd yourself but a Staples Center raucus crowd never translates well on TV. It’s just the way the arena was made. It was not designed for a hostile environment with deafening noise. In other words, Staples or Crypto Arena freakin sucks. Can’t wait for Intuit.

[esqtvd]

Winning seasons is not that big of a deal. Let's put into perspective.

During that same 12 yr timeframe:
1. Clippers missed the playoffs twice
2. Clips got bounced in the 1st Round 4 times (so half of the winning seasons ended up with not advancing to the Semis)
3. Clips were never seeded at #1 in the conference and only made #2 once (Memphis did it multiple times while going through 5 coaches in those 12 years)
4. Nuggets, Mavericks, Kings, Lakers, Pelicans, Grizzlies and Suns all had sub .400 seasons (over half of them have had sub .300 seasons)
Pelicans and Kings are the only two of that group not to advance to a WC Finals (3 of those teams beat us along the way)

None of those teams blew one 3-1 playoff leads, let alone 2.

At $1.8B in payroll over that timeframe, the Clippers have only been outspent by GS (not including luxury tax payments). The Warriors have spent that money with titles and Finals appearances to show for it. Are we winning because we are good or are we winning because Ballmer just spends relentlessly? Only Brooklyn has spent more on salary with less to show for it. Denver has spent nearly $190M less (a season of payroll) AND has the 2 time reigning MVP whom they drafted and developed.

Last 12 yrs salary
Team Sum of Salary Salary Difference
LA Clippers $1,376,203,994.00
LA Lakers $1,318,273,024.00 $57,930,970.00
New Orleans $1,235,061,837.00 $141,142,157.00
Dallas $1,209,400,454.00 $166,803,540.00
Denver $1,184,737,878.00 $191,466,116.00
Memphis $1,183,969,422.00 $192,234,572.00
Phoenix $1,147,568,696.00 $228,635,298.00
Sacramento $1,091,112,248.00 $285,091,746.00


For all that money spent by Ballmer, the Clippers have never been higher than #9 in attendance. They were #7, #6 and #7 in the last three seasons of the Sterling ownership. Ballmer's time as owner has landed us in the 20s in attendance three times. Lots of money spent for poor attendance figures and no real home court advantage. The fan support in Staples in an embarrassment. Clips have only averaged over 18K per game one season since 2016/2017. Maybe dumping the corny antics during the game and clipping the fake wings of the ridiculous Chuck the Condor would be a good start. Hope the new stadium will be better. If not, at least it has toilets.

I'm not a Ballmer fan in the LEAST. But that can wait for the off-season.

I'm just trying to enjoy this now? I've been Clipper Nation since the day they got to LA in 1984 and it was 27 years of almost unbroken misery until the CP3 trade.


Plenty of time for scapegoating, fingerpointing and I told-you-so-ing. Maybe damn soon if we get bounced early. And remember, Ballmer is the only guy in Clipperville who can't get fired. The buck stops there, and we will never know how much of this was HIS doing.

You’re still putting emphasis on paid attendance per game? It is an outdated stat especially in this day and age. You can now watch games on your phone with 5G speed with unlimited data.

You’re right, though. We could use better fan support at our home games. But it’s always been that way even during the Lob City era. We had a sellout streak but whenever we played popular teams, the so-called fans that had season tickets always sold them to visiting trolls.

If you’re at a game itself, you can feel the crowd yourself but a Staples Center raucus crowd never translates well on TV. It’s just the way the arena was made. It was not designed for a hostile environment with deafening noise. In other words, Staples or Crypto Arena freakin sucks. Can’t wait for Intuit.

The WALL. Clipper fans ONLY. Or else Ballmer will try to pull your season ticket if you sell your seats to visiting fans.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sports-columnists/story/2023-01-14/clippers-owner-steve-ballmer-intuit-dome-arena-aztecs-viejas-kawhi-leonard

Ballmer knows THAT much. Clipper games can't be a home game for Boston or GSW fans. Let alone Laker fans. That S*** has got to STOP.

[Akklaim1]

I'm not a Ballmer fan in the LEAST. But that can wait for the off-season.

I'm just trying to enjoy this now? I've been Clipper Nation since the day they got to LA in 1984 and it was 27 years of almost unbroken misery until the CP3 trade.


Plenty of time for scapegoating, fingerpointing and I told-you-so-ing. Maybe damn soon if we get bounced early. And remember, Ballmer is the only guy in Clipperville who can't get fired. The buck stops there, and we will never know how much of this was HIS doing.

You’re still putting emphasis on paid attendance per game? It is an outdated stat especially in this day and age. You can now watch games on your phone with 5G speed with unlimited data.

You’re right, though. We could use better fan support at our home games. But it’s always been that way even during the Lob City era. We had a sellout streak but whenever we played popular teams, the so-called fans that had season tickets always sold them to visiting trolls.

If you’re at a game itself, you can feel the crowd yourself but a Staples Center raucus crowd never translates well on TV. It’s just the way the arena was made. It was not designed for a hostile environment with deafening noise. In other words, Staples or Crypto Arena freakin sucks. Can’t wait for Intuit.

The WALL. Clipper fans ONLY. Or else Ballmer will try to pull your season ticket if you sell your seats to visiting fans.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sports-columnists/story/2023-01-14/clippers-owner-steve-ballmer-intuit-dome-arena-aztecs-viejas-kawhi-leonard

Ballmer knows THAT much. Clipper games can't be a home game for Boston or GSW fans. Let alone Laker fans. That S*** has got to STOP.

Laker fan invasion will never stop. They even come to our games against random opponents and they openly root for them.

But I am confident that Warrior fan invasion will stop. They never bothered to show up during their Jason Richardson days.

[esqtvd]

You’re still putting emphasis on paid attendance per game? It is an outdated stat especially in this day and age. You can now watch games on your phone with 5G speed with unlimited data.

You’re right, though. We could use better fan support at our home games. But it’s always been that way even during the Lob City era. We had a sellout streak but whenever we played popular teams, the so-called fans that had season tickets always sold them to visiting trolls.

If you’re at a game itself, you can feel the crowd yourself but a Staples Center raucus crowd never translates well on TV. It’s just the way the arena was made. It was not designed for a hostile environment with deafening noise. In other words, Staples or Crypto Arena freakin sucks. Can’t wait for Intuit.

The WALL. Clipper fans ONLY. Or else Ballmer will try to pull your season ticket if you sell your seats to visiting fans.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sports-columnists/story/2023-01-14/clippers-owner-steve-ballmer-intuit-dome-arena-aztecs-viejas-kawhi-leonard

Ballmer knows THAT much. Clipper games can't be a home game for Boston or GSW fans. Let alone Laker fans. That S*** has got to STOP.

Laker fan invasion will never stop. They even come to our games against random opponents and they openly root for them.

But I am confident that Warrior fan invasion will stop. They never bothered to show up during their Jason Richardson days.

VERY good point. GSW is Steph, and might be done without Draymond. And whatever is left of the Lakers is LeBron, whose clock is ticking too. And we could well be starting over in 2024-25 without Kawhi and/or PG, who can opt out.

Oh, well. Let's pray for a miracle, then. Frankly, for all its playoff failures, day-to-day and year-to-year I enjoyed Lob City far more than the Kawhi era. I'm trying to stay positive. This is supposed to be fun.

[clipperlover]

VERY good point. GSW is Steph, and might be done without Draymond. And whatever is left of the Lakers is LeBron, whose clock is ticking too. And we could well be starting over in 2024-25 without Kawhi and/or PG, who can opt out.

Oh, well. Let's pray for a miracle, then. Frankly, for all its playoff failures, day-to-day and year-to-year I enjoyed Lob City far more than the Kawhi era. I'm trying to stay positive. This is supposed to be fun.

This team is much better than those Lob City Teams. For the most part with those Lob City teams, we knew in November that they didn't have what it took to win in the post season. Trotting out Redick and Crawford for heavy roles, no backup big, never getting a lock down wing defender and Blake never improving defensively were always evident right away. Who can forget our playoff rotations of Redick, Crawford and Collison in one season only to be "upgraded" to Redick, Crawford, Silver Spoon.

Kawhi Leonard is a two time NBA Finals MVP. There are very few outside Phoenix that think we would have lost the West if Kawhi doesn't tear his ACL (Bucks still likely win the title) . The injuries to Blake and CP3 might have cost us a 1st Round win, but those teams had too many holes to make the Finals.

We had a bad bubble playoffs, but that was just a horrible situation and just a money grab by the NBA. No crowds, so it didn't even have the same intensity.

I am ready for the playoffs. We have a great team with a legitimate chance to win the West. I hope that PG is cleared for the playoffs, but with Jason Powell being the only key member of the Clippers organization that could tell you about the Sports Arena, I remain cautiously optimistic.

[MartinToVaught]

We had a bad bubble playoffs, but that was just a horrible situation and just a money grab by the NBA. No crowds, so it didn't even have the same intensity.

Doc and Trez would have made us lose in the second round even if there was no bubble.