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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#81 » by Milbucks96 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:27 am

This team is good with the potential to be great. Still confused on why we haven’t been able to make Dame and Brook consistent positives on the court. It’s probably just shot making but after a month, I would like a little more consistency. Probably still a little early to call for it but damn a win would've felt good.
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#82 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:27 am

SRS is a better indicator of playoff success than wins or losses and ours improved tonight. we want to see ours climb above a 5. then we will know the season is going well.

i also like focusing on this because it turns the season into 1 game. as far as championship level regular seasons go.....were mid way thru the first qtr of that game and were right in it. basically where weve been the last two seasons when they ended if youre looking at srs..... which again..... is the main thing you should be watching
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#83 » by Daver » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:27 am

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fansinceforever wrote:Also, we're a deeply unserious team if our plan is to play Malik Beasley in a playoff series against these guys. Absolutely BBQ'd

Everyone got toasted on defense. Beasley wasn't the worst




On this board marjon could be -25 AJJ could be -17 beas could be +20 yet the same dudes on this board would still single out beas as the main problem dude on D hes far from it
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#84 » by Mtsportsfan » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:27 am

-Jragon- wrote:Their ball movement was awesome and gave them wide open shots the whole game...is that what a real coach teaches? Can we get 1?


Totally agree, run a actual offense to get guys open looks would be nice. That being said , we did have one n looks tonight but didn't hit them !
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#85 » by soxperry » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:28 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:AG briefly yanking Giannis to chew him out was great. Probably the first time that's ever happened.
Are you talking about 4 minutes left in the third? I took that as Giannis was being subbed out and Giannis told AG I'm staying in.

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damn... so either he pulled Giannis briefly to chew him out before putting him back in (Alpha), or he tried to sub Giannis out but Giannis threw a tantrum and he folded and put him back in (Ugghh)
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#86 » by yb90 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:28 am

Just a weird game for the Bucks. A lot of fumbles and miscues at the wrong time to go al9ng with a poor finishing night for Giannis. The are really missing a lock down 3 and D wing unless Beauchamp/Jackson make serious strides during the season. I still think they both lack the strength but maybe the season will toughen them up
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Post#87 » by WiscoKing13 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:29 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:AG briefly yanking Giannis to chew him out was great. Probably the first time that's ever happened.

That was awesome. AG earned some respect points with me tonight.
Coach pulls player, player says I'm not leaving and stays at table to go back in=respect for coach?

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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#88 » by Plossum » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:29 am

Have said it in other threads but I think the key to unlocking the potential of this team is having our offence centred around generating good looks for Dame. We're still playing a bit too 'nice' in that we feel the need to share the ball around so all our star guys get their touches. Running our offence for Dame will open everything up for others, especially Giannis.

Giannis has to be a big part of this. He's got to learn to sacrifice a little individually for the betterment of the team (and himself). We know he can destroy teams on his own, but he's got to learn how to use his team mates as an extension of himself to beat the more sophisticated defences. Thankfully we have time to figure it out.
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#89 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:32 am

Plossum wrote:Giannis has to be a big part of this. He's got to learn to sacrifice a little individually for the betterment of the team (and himself). We know he can destroy teams on his own, but he's got to learn how to use his team mates as an extension of himself to beat the more sophisticated defences. Thankfully we have time to figure it out.


It's mind boggling that after a Dame three with a few minutes left, Giannis didn't even look his way the next two possessions. I could barely believe what I was watching.
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#90 » by Daver » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:33 am

Mtsportsfan wrote:
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rj_dio wrote:I feel Dame is about to break through. Very optimistic.

This might be the game that sends Beasley to the bench.

Boston better hope for health. That starting five is great. They are clear best in east to me.




How can you say their the best the bucks played like sh.. n lost by only 3 points.Their team may be 12-3 but thrir starting 5 dont scare me.Bucks had 101 shots tonight they hit their normsl amount n they win


We have been saying that it seems forever ! If we only hit our shots , but yet it seems we never do ! I don't have stats but they sure seem to shoot the ball way better than we do!




Boston didnt shoot over the top great they won by 3 shooting over 40 from 3 bucks dont miss 20 layups n just make 7 or 8 of the shots they make easily every game this is a easy bucks win.They had 101 shots shoot their season average they win
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Post#91 » by Matches Malone » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:33 am

How much longer do we have to endure Beasley with the starters? I just don't get the infatuation.

Glad we have Dame, cause if we still had Jrue, you could probably add a 0 to the end of the 3-point loss.
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#92 » by drone3 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:33 am

Can't start crap against good teams. It's as simple as that.

Giannis needs to play different. Either pick and roll or if he can't make a simple freakin screen then drive and kick.
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#93 » by rilamann » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:33 am

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rilamann wrote:We lost by almost 50 at home to the Celtics 2 weeks before the playoffs last season.

I'll take a 3pt loss on the road to Boston in November as progress lol.

Would have been a great win but if Boston has to play that well to beat us by 3 when we laid a collective egg, I'll take it.




Spot on considering we had 101 shots to their 84 n lost by 3 tells you how bad we shot this is a 10 point bucks win if giannis has a normal game n dame makes just 1 more 3

Yeah, if Giannis plays even just ok, this is probably a win.

Boston is no longer a tough match up for us like they have been the past 2 seasons, losing by 3 with how bad we played shows that.

The only thing that is concerning is Giannis still plays like he's terrified of Boston for whatever reason. If the same guys guarding Giannis tonight were wearing Wizards jerseys, Giannis probably gets an efficient 40.
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#94 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:33 am

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Plossum wrote:Giannis has to be a big part of this. He's got to learn to sacrifice a little individually for the betterment of the team (and himself). We know he can destroy teams on his own, but he's got to learn how to use his team mates as an extension of himself to beat the more sophisticated defences. Thankfully we have time to figure it out.


It's mind boggling that after a Dame three with a few minutes left, Giannis didn't even look his way the next two possessions. I could barely believe what I was watching.


hes unique in good ways and bad. clearly at this point one of the greatest of all time but quite possibly the lowest iq of any alltimer
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#95 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:35 am

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Plossum wrote:Giannis has to be a big part of this. He's got to learn to sacrifice a little individually for the betterment of the team (and himself). We know he can destroy teams on his own, but he's got to learn how to use his team mates as an extension of himself to beat the more sophisticated defences. Thankfully we have time to figure it out.


It's mind boggling that after a Dame three with a few minutes left, Giannis didn't even look his way the next two possessions. I could barely believe what I was watching.


I yelled at the TV on the next possession. And I am not a sports-yeller.
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#96 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:37 am

Matches Malone wrote:How much longer do we have to endure Beasley with the starters? I just don't get the infatuation.

Glad we have Dame, cause if we still had Jrue, you could probably add a 0 to the end of the 3-point loss.


if we give dame the ball against this team they have literally no answer for him without changing their entire gameplan for giannis.

beasley im completely ok with. hes a rotation guy and a figure head starter not any different than middletons been except there isnt an infatuation with having him finish games
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#97 » by blazza18 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:38 am

rilamann wrote:The only thing that is concerning is Giannis still plays like he's terrified of Boston for whatever reason. If the same guys guarding Giannis tonight were wearing Wizards jerseys, Giannis probably gets an efficient 40.


Indeed and it's turning into an actual problem now imo. Not a lot else matters if he/we can't figure this out.
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#98 » by pifhluk23 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:39 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:SRS is a better indicator of playoff success than wins or losses and ours improved tonight. we want to see ours climb above a 5. then we will know the season is going well.

i also like focusing on this because it turns the season into 1 game. as far as championship level regular seasons go.....were mid way thru the first qtr of that game and were right in it. basically where weve been the last two seasons when they ended if youre looking at srs..... which again..... is the main thing you should be watching


Defensive rating is pretty important..nearly impossible to win without being top 10.
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#99 » by randy84 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:40 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:How much longer do we have to endure Beasley with the starters? I just don't get the infatuation.

Glad we have Dame, cause if we still had Jrue, you could probably add a 0 to the end of the 3-point loss.


if we give dame the ball against this team they have literally no answer for him without changing their entire gameplan for giannis.

beasley im completely ok with. hes a rotation guy and a figure head starter not any different than middletons been except there isnt an infatuation with having him finish games


Probably needed more Beasley tonight when no one else is hitting shots. Beasley hit the first 3 of the game and didn't get another shot until the fourth.
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Re: PG Celtics - Bucks Fall 

Post#100 » by msiris » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:40 am

One thing that bothers me about Dame is that his shot selection can be **** sometimes.
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