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Meat wrote:ScrantonBulls wrote:The High Cyde wrote:Like Bron when he punched Kerr? Oh wait who was that again??
That punch was due to sheer competitive nature, and it made Kerr a better player!
I hear it makes wives better cooks too
PistolPeteJR wrote:Today, I learned that what MJ, Kobe and Curry have in common is that they played for franchises with competent FOs and coaches.
SHAQ32 wrote:LeBron's allergic to adversity
infinite11285 wrote:PierceFan4ever wrote:Man has done everything he has possibly could from team hopping to trading half the roster every season to get to 4 rings in 21 seasons.
The information presented in the OP isn't true. A quick spot check from bball reference shows the 2010-2011 Heat traded two players and two picks after acquiring James.
So either the author can't count, or there's contextual information missing.
MavsDirk41 wrote:PistolPeteJR wrote:Today, I learned that what MJ, Kobe and Curry have in common is that they played for franchises with competent FOs and coaches.
Yes Miami with Spo and Riley are highly incompetent
The Explorer wrote:https://fadeawayworld.net/lebron-james-teams-have-traded-118-players-and-first-round-picks-while-michael-jordans-team-traded-only-35
This is a staggering amount of trades his teams have done. As the article points out, some of it can be attributed to his longevity, but not all of it. Just about every year he has shipped off teammates or draft picks, and it's about to happen again this season. If he is really the GOAT, why does he constantly need the most help of any player, ever?
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
JN61 wrote:Not enough help
PistolPeteJR wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:PistolPeteJR wrote:Today, I learned that what MJ, Kobe and Curry have in common is that they played for franchises with competent FOs and coaches.
Yes Miami with Spo and Riley are highly incompetent
Perhaps I should elaborate, but it seems my point is not fully understood.
Today, I learned that what MJ, Kobe and Curry have in common is that they were drafted by franchises with competent FOs and/or coaches and had that luxury for the bulk of their careers.Spoiler:
Prince187 wrote:If we didn’t live in clown world LeBron would have the reputation of being an awful teammate
LakerLegend wrote:LeBron was literally more athletic at 35 than he was at 20
Calvin Klein wrote:PistolPeteJR wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:
Yes Miami with Spo and Riley are highly incompetent
Perhaps I should elaborate, but it seems my point is not fully understood.
Today, I learned that what MJ, Kobe and Curry have in common is that they were drafted by franchises with competent FOs and/or coaches and had that luxury for the bulk of their careers.Spoiler:
Sure, the Warriors in the 00s were very good and had a great history of being great. So did the Bulls in the 80s...
LakerLegend wrote:LeBron was literally more athletic at 35 than he was at 20
ScrantonBulls wrote:BeatDaCavs420 wrote:I haven't posted here in awhile....I see nothing has changed though with the typical Lebron defenders with the most replies in this thread defending their King!
People called out the thread poster for posting an article from a garbage website with made up statistics, and this is the hill you want to die on?it gets old when petulant fans fill up the General Board with BS threads about players they don't like.
But by all means, keep calling out the people who are fact checking and adding context to the discussion! Good job!
Magic#1 wrote:We have won two playoff games in two years. If we decide to keep this team for the next two years, maybe it will feel like we won a series.
Iwasawitness wrote:Prince187 wrote:If we didn’t live in clown world LeBron would have the reputation of being an awful teammate
Only clowns believe he’s an awful teammate.
Meat wrote:SHAQ32 wrote:LeBron's allergic to adversity
what do you get for not taking the path of least resistance? admiration from incels online?
DrModesty wrote:Only 4 rings for the amount of resources LeBron has used is underwhelming given his talents. I think he has been so sensitive to failure that he can't help but spend picks, churn the roster, fire the coach, team up with stars or abandon ship when things aren't going right for him. Anything to get the stink of imperfection off of himself.
We see Steph have a couple of bad/lost years with the Warriors when Durant left and Klay got his injury. He put his faith in the organization and his teammates, even the second year after they lost in the play-in. It paid off with a title the next year. LeBron's playbook would have been to either leave or trade Klay, because LeBron just can't handle when things go wrong around him.
Kobe withstood 3 years of mediocrity after Shaq left in the middle of his prime before making a trade request. Even then he ended up staying, with a deal on the table because it wasn't a preferred destination. The Lakers manage to swing a Pau trade and he gets 2 more rings. LeBron is not toughing out 3 years of first round exits/missing the playoffs in his prime. It's short term contracts so he can leave when the going gets tough and the blame starts to stick to him rightly or wrongly.
Even Duncan had a 7 year stretch where the Spurs were only contenders/fringe contenders, including 3 years in the middle of not making a conference final. He kept faith in his teammates and organization, and they pulled out a 5th championship before Duncan was done.
We have seen that LeBron doesn't have the temperance to sit through the ebbs of a highly public and expectant NBA career. It has been full of moves that reek of desperation, and I can only put it down his narcissism and the insecurity that comes with it. This all sounds quite harsh, but I'm not blaming him for his choices. His ego has been fed like few others in human history. Many of us would have turned out similarly in his situation. 4 rings is just an underwhelming result.
