Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round

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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#81 » by spanishninja » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:20 am

Handlez wrote:You can't sell high on KD.

Booker you can.
After this playoff showing, Booker's value will be clownishly low.

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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#82 » by brutalitops » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:23 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:Durant to Thunder for Jalen Williams, and Giddey - a first
Beal for DFS and the ghost of Ben Simmons

Both OKC and Suns say no to the first one
Second, Both Brooklyn and Suns say no, and Beal also says no, So its rare you can have 4 parties who can refuse the trade out of 3 teams, Your idea is that bad



Suns should of never doubled down on Beal. Beal is a good player, however skillset doesn't compliment Booker and KD. right now you would take CP3 in this series alone over Beal. Not that he's overall a better player, but multiple times the wolves are picking up dudes and disrupting the Suns from getting into any action. You've had a huge game from KD in game 1 which they still struggled to be competitive, second game Nurkic showed a lot and again, But you would have put your house on the suns winning knowing Minny would only get 12 points from Towns, 15 from Edwards 5 from Reid
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#83 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:24 am

LaLover11 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
I really want to see Curry and Booker together
Draymond/Klay/Kuminga for Booker

Splash Bros 2.0
So the Warriors trade their key players for Booker.

Curry
GP2
Booker
Wiggins
Looney

Yeah that team will be in the lottery no depth and a Booker ankle sprain away from being the worst team in the NBA.


Curry
GP2
Booker
Wiggins
Looney

They could trade Wiggins/GP2/CP3, Looney for depth

That lineup is depressing.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#84 » by LaLover11 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:25 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:So the Warriors trade their key players for Booker.

Curry
GP2
Booker
Wiggins
Looney

Yeah that team will be in the lottery no depth and a Booker ankle sprain away from being the worst team in the NBA.


Curry
GP2
Booker
Wiggins
Looney

They could trade Wiggins/GP2/CP3, Looney for depth

That lineup is depressing.


I'm sure Curry would be happy to have a Superstar SG next to him instead of 0-10 Klay and Suspension Green
Bronny will become Murray 2.0
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#85 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:28 am

LaLover11 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
Curry
GP2
Booker
Wiggins
Looney

They could trade Wiggins/GP2/CP3, Looney for depth

That lineup is depressing.


I'm sure Curry would be happy to have a Superstar SG next to him instead of 0-10 Klay and Suspension Green

The backcourt is fine. It's the other pieces that makes this team a non factor.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#86 » by Up-And-Coming » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:44 am

DaddyCool19 wrote:Booker to Brooklyn to get all their picks + something extra back. Durant to Philly, so they can make a last run with an ageing KD and Embiid.

Then hope Beal asks out at the trade deadline after maybe increasing his trade value and tank hard for Flagg.


Reuniting Booker with Bridges and Cam Johnson. The Eastern Phoenix Suns of the past but this time without Chris Paul :lol:
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#87 » by LaLover11 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:49 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:That lineup is depressing.


I'm sure Curry would be happy to have a Superstar SG next to him instead of 0-10 Klay and Suspension Green

The backcourt is fine. It's the other pieces that makes this team a non factor.


That's the best backcourt in the West
Trade the remaining pieces for Lauri or Ingram and fillers
They can also gamble and trade for Ben Simmons to play the Draymond role with Curry/Booker
Bronny will become Murray 2.0
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#88 » by basketballto » Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:24 am

ChiTownHero1992 wrote:Sell high? What is the worth of KD at this point? It can't be that incredible he's what 35 and hasn't done anything significant in years...including an injury history. Booker has more worth and I dont see people overpaying for him currently, contenders would want him but not much to offer, middle of the road teams might balk, rebuilders dont fit the timeline and he'd just ask out anyways.

I'm not seeing both are worthless, I'm simply saying "sell high" is not the term i'd use.


You are selling high on KD because he only goes down from here.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#89 » by FarBeyondDriven » Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:32 am

they should absolutely blow it up. All this core will accomplish is being pretenders for the foreseeable future and ensuring they never pick high enough to draft a franchise player. Booker has always been a fraud. They'll eventually blow it up anyway, just rip the bandaid off. The market would be strong for him given his age and scoring ability. The market for KD would also be very strong. Just those two guys would net several draft picks and young players. Beal can be the tank commander until the trade deadline then he and Nurkic can be moved too. It's pointless to run this team back. The problem is, these guys draw fans and 90% of the owners just want fans in seats spending money and keeping them in the black as the values of franchises continuously rise. So they're not really interested in doing what is right and best for the franchise.

Pistons send Ivey, Duren and their 2025 1st for KD

Cade
Thompson
KD
Stewart
Sarr (2024 draft pick)

Magic send Black, Howard, 2024 and 2025 1st round picks for Booker

Suggs
Booker
Wagner
Banchero
Carter

Suns

Ivey-Black
Beal-Allen
Howard
Salaun (ORL 2024 1st round pick)
Nurkic-Duren

trade Nurkic, Allen and Beal at the deadline. Enter 2025 draft with three first round picks. Isn't this better than just playing out the string and eventually losing these players for nothing and facing a rebuild in 2026 armed with no young talent or high draft picks?
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#90 » by Warriorfan » Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:46 am

Just get some defensive wings

Booker and Beale still in their prime
KD can score till 40s
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#91 » by Schmooftie » Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:57 am

Warriorfan wrote:Just get some defensive wings

Booker and Beale still in their prime
KD can score till 40s


They are about to go into the 2nd apron, along with most of their draft capital heading to Brooklyn. Not sure where they get some defensive wings from unless they get lucky in the 2nd round or someone taking a massive discount to come play with them.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#92 » by LaLover11 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:22 am

Would Suns do a Booker/Gordon for Reaves, Rui, Vando, Gabe & picks trade?

Reaves/Gabe
Beal/ Grayson
Durant/Okogie/O'neale
Rui/Vando
Nurkic/ Eubanks
Bronny will become Murray 2.0
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#93 » by Berbasecks » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:45 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:trade Nurkic, Allen and Beal at the deadline.


Did Beal's no trade clause get cancelled with the trade to PHX?
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#94 » by Wolveswin » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:36 am

LaLover11 wrote:Would Suns do a Booker/Gordon for Reaves, Rui, Vando, Gabe & picks trade?

Reaves/Gabe
Beal/ Grayson
Durant/Okogie/O'neale
Rui/Vando
Nurkic/ Eubanks

That Lakers trade package doesn’t get you Cory Booker.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#95 » by Wolveswin » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:39 am

Warriorfan wrote:Just get some defensive wings

Booker and Beale still in their prime
KD can score till 40s

Dime a dozen. Good thing Suns are only one looking for defensive wings in all NBA and Suns have plenty of assets to trade for those plentiful defensive wings.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#96 » by LaLover11 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:40 am

Wolveswin wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Would Suns do a Booker/Gordon for Reaves, Rui, Vando, Gabe & picks trade?

Reaves/Gabe
Beal/ Grayson
Durant/Okogie/O'neale
Rui/Vando
Nurkic/ Eubanks

That Lakers trade package doesn’t get you Cory Booker.


Yeah suns should just keep making the Play In every season with a Prime Booker/Beal & Durant

Suns Big3 all played 40+ minutes and all scored 20pts or less this game. They need to rest and let good role players take over which they don't have.

They would be better off with either Booker or Durant taking the offensive load and catch a rhythm.

Beal was the worse trade they could've done
It gives them nothing with two offensive superstars
They we're supposed to trade for Siakam
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#97 » by Wolveswin » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:44 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:Magic send Black, Howard, 2024 and 2025 1st round picks for Booker


Come on, that is laughable.

Black had a meh rookie season. Howard is easily in bust category. 2024 Magic 1st is already meh #18 in bad draft and 2025 1st from a playoff team adding Booker (so late late 1st). That is maybe 1/2 of what Booker would warrant in trade.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#98 » by Wolveswin » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:46 am

LaLover11 wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Would Suns do a Booker/Gordon for Reaves, Rui, Vando, Gabe & picks trade?

Reaves/Gabe
Beal/ Grayson
Durant/Okogie/O'neale
Rui/Vando
Nurkic/ Eubanks

That Lakers trade package doesn’t get you Cory Booker.


Yeah suns should just keep making the Play In every season with a Prime Booker/Beal & Durant Big 3

Got it. Only two options???? Didn’t know that was how it worked.

Or maybe, just maybe, like 29 other teams offer close to double than your offer. Maybe that, right?
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#99 » by jpengland » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:54 am

Best fit for KD would be Dallas.

But Dallas doesn't have the assets to get PHX to bite.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#100 » by Wolveswin » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:06 am

DaddyCool19 wrote:Booker to Brooklyn to get all their picks + something extra back.

Posted the same thing just before you, really not a bad outcome for both organizations.

Booker + Filler (filler can be about anyone with Nets large TPEs)

FOR

+Simmons (expiring and need to get out of Brooklyn with Booker coming into town)
+Youth (Whitehead and/or Clowney)
+All Suns 1sts/Swap (25/27/29 so 3x 1sts)
+27 76ers 1st (owed Nets)
+29 Mavs 1st (owed Nets)

That is very close to Mitchell or KD offer which serve as Booker’s comp. But Simmons is Nets salary filler (negative’ish contract even as expiring) and Suns filler added can be little something something for Nets.

Then KD to highest bidder. Should warrant at least 2x more 1sts and maybe some youth.

Suns start a tank rebuild with worst roster in NBA (compared to pistons/Wizards/Blazers/Hornets). Beal demands out (and sits out plenty until traded).

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