Derrick Rose Draft - Discussion

[JimmyPlopper]

What is the best Ewing year to typically use? 1990 is pretty clearly his peak, but it's fairly expensive FGA wise.

I'm sure that the opinions will vary but I don't see any problem using the 89 season if you can use extra 4 FGA/G to really boost another one of your selections.

[Snakebites]

What is the best Ewing year to typically use? 1990 is pretty clearly his peak, but it's fairly expensive FGA wise.

I've always used 91-92.

Ewing is super expensive but I think that doesn't matter as much in this pool which is a lot shallower anyway. I think 93-94 is interesting given it's when they reached the finals, but the All-NBA snub likely matters for some.

[ardee]

What is the best Ewing year to typically use? 1990 is pretty clearly his peak, but it's fairly expensive FGA wise.

I'm sure that the opinions will vary but I don't see any problem using the 89 season if you can use extra 4 FGA/G to really boost another one of your selections.

Yeah that's the one I'm leaning toward. 3.5 bpg and his most efficient scoring year by far, with Isiah/KD I won't need hyper volume scoring from him.

[Snakebites]

What is the best Ewing year to typically use? 1990 is pretty clearly his peak, but it's fairly expensive FGA wise.

I'm sure that the opinions will vary but I don't see any problem using the 89 season if you can use extra 4 FGA/G to really boost another one of your selections.

Yeah that's the one I'm leaning toward. 3.5 bpg and his most efficient scoring year by far, with Isiah/KD I won't need hyper volume scoring from him.

In a normal draft I'd agree. I'm not sure the saved FGA carries the same value as it normally would- the teams in this one will be semi-realistic and it's not really as possible to stretch your FGA into so many elite players. And I do think the Ewing of the first half of the 90s was materially better.

[ardee]

I'm sure that the opinions will vary but I don't see any problem using the 89 season if you can use extra 4 FGA/G to really boost another one of your selections.

Yeah that's the one I'm leaning toward. 3.5 bpg and his most efficient scoring year by far, with Isiah/KD I won't need hyper volume scoring from him.

In a normal draft I'd agree. I'm not sure the saved FGA carries the same value as it normally would- the teams in this one will be semi-realistic and it's not really as possible to stretch your FGA into so many elite players. And I do think the Ewing of the first half of the 90s was materially better.

Good point, will probably end up using 1990 if I don't see any better use for the FGAs.

[Laimbeer]

Wait so we can take an mvp for category 1 and then the other categories can be an all nba 1st too? I just assumed the rest couldn’t be all nba1st haha

Surely the selection of Pippen and Ewing would have given you a strong indication that you were mistaken?

Butler was the right pick in round 1 for you either way. Going for Shaq in round 2 was also totally justifiable.

Butler and Ewing are with Rose teams, though. Category one is really confusing as written. Why is all-NBA even mentioned?

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[Fadeaway_J]

I hemmed and hawed a bit on the Kobe pick because I wasn't sure if I could bank on Reed dropping to the third round. Ended up working out pretty nicely, as I saved some FGAs compared to the other MVP centers and also landed the best SG in the pool.

[Fadeaway_J]

Wait so we can take an mvp for category 1 and then the other categories can be an all nba 1st too? I just assumed the rest couldn’t be all nba1st haha

Surely the selection of Pippen and Ewing would have given you a strong indication that you were mistaken?

Butler was the right pick in round 1 for you either way. Going for Shaq in round 2 was also totally justifiable.

Butler and Ewing are with Rose teams, though. Category one is really confusing as written. Why is all-NBA even mentioned?

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I didn't find it confusing at all. The All-NBA option was probably redundant as everyone will go for the MVP, but there's no suggestion that it would affect any of the other categories.

[Laimbeer]

Surely the selection of Pippen and Ewing would have given you a strong indication that you were mistaken?

Butler was the right pick in round 1 for you either way. Going for Shaq in round 2 was also totally justifiable.

Butler and Ewing are with Rose teams, though. Category one is really confusing as written. Why is all-NBA even mentioned?

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I didn't find it confusing at all. The All-NBA option was probably redundant as everyone will go for the MVP, but there's no suggestion that it would affect any of the other categories.

I'm talking strictly about category 1. If a guy did not win MVP but won multiple first team all NBA is he eligible for category 1?

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[Fadeaway_J]

Butler and Ewing are with Rose teams, though. Category one is really confusing as written. Why is all-NBA even mentioned?

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I didn't find it confusing at all. The All-NBA option was probably redundant as everyone will go for the MVP, but there's no suggestion that it would affect any of the other categories.

I'm talking strictly about category 1. If a guy did not win MVP but won multiple first team, all NBA. Is he eligible?

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Not for that category, no.

[Laimbeer]

I didn't find it confusing at all. The All-NBA option was probably redundant as everyone will go for the MVP, but there's no suggestion that it would affect any of the other categories.

I'm talking strictly about category 1. If a guy did not win MVP but won multiple first team, all NBA. Is he eligible?

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Not for that category, no.

Okay, but it seems kind of crazy. You would allow a guy that won one MVP and multiple first team NBA but would not allow a guy who won zero MVPs and multiple all NBA first

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[durantbird]

I'm talking strictly about category 1. If a guy did not win MVP but won multiple first team, all NBA. Is he eligible?

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Not for that category, no.

Okay, but it seems kind of crazy. You would allow a guy that won one MVP and multiple first team NBA but would not allow a guy who won zero MVPs and multiple all NBA first

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The idea was to have similar accolades to Rose in any case. The other option is a fallback in case you don't like the MVPs left on board, but it still opens up interesting enough options.

It's not supposed to be an exception.

If you didn't secure your guy early and you don't like your options, you miscalculated your steps.

[Snakebites]

Wait so we can take an mvp for category 1 and then the other categories can be an all nba 1st too? I just assumed the rest couldn’t be all nba1st haha

Surely the selection of Pippen and Ewing would have given you a strong indication that you were mistaken?

Butler was the right pick in round 1 for you either way. Going for Shaq in round 2 was also totally justifiable.

Butler and Ewing are with Rose teams, though. Category one is really confusing as written. Why is all-NBA even mentioned?

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He stated he thought the other categories couldn’t contain All- NBA first guys.

I’m not sure why all NBA first is mentioned. But it does say “or” and I didn’t have any trouble with it.

[ardee]

Laimbeer's team is ridiculous. Though if Ness takes who I expect him to, his will be as well.

[MadNESS]

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[JimmyPlopper]

I'm sure that the opinions will vary but I don't see any problem using the 89 season if you can use extra 4 FGA/G to really boost another one of your selections.

Yeah that's the one I'm leaning toward. 3.5 bpg and his most efficient scoring year by far, with Isiah/KD I won't need hyper volume scoring from him.

In a normal draft I'd agree. I'm not sure the saved FGA carries the same value as it normally would- the teams in this one will be semi-realistic and it's not really as possible to stretch your FGA into so many elite players. And I do think the Ewing of the first half of the 90s was materially better.

That's fair, but for me personally, for guys that have a sustained prime, I think its smartest to choose the lower usage version if you are combining them with other big names like we typically do in these games. For my part as a judge, I wouldn't place a any meaningful emphasis on a year in which he had better win shares because he got more touches. And for Ewing, there were incremental changes in his game over the years, but he was instant impact from the draft and sort of steadily hovered from there in my view. Not many peaks and valleys in his resume

[JimmyPlopper]

Laimbeer's team is ridiculous. Though if Ness takes who I expect him to, his will be as well.

Garnett and Robinson is a fierce front line thats for sure!

[Snakebites]

Laimbeer's team is ridiculous. Though if Ness takes who I expect him to, his will be as well.

Garnett and Robinson is a fierce front line thats for sure!

Love DRob but Hakeem/KG would have been GG in this pool.

[ardee]

Laimbeer's team is ridiculous. Though if Ness takes who I expect him to, his will be as well.

Garnett and Robinson is a fierce front line thats for sure!

Love DRob but Hakeem/KG would have been GG in this pool.

That is who I expected Ness to take, and of course he did. Probably a bit worse than Laimbeer on talent but my gawd the fit.

I was feeling pretty good about my unit after the top 2 but then all the PGs who could shoot were taken and I had to settle for Isiah. Then I wanted Bane for round 4 and of course Laimbeer took him

[Laimbeer]

Laimbeer's team is ridiculous. Though if Ness takes who I expect him to, his will be as well.

Garnett and Robinson is a fierce front line thats for sure!

Love DRob but Hakeem/KG would have been GG in this pool.

Glad people like it, but hoped for a perimeter MVP. Didn't like the options left, though. Felt lucky to get Kyrie and Bane where I did. Thought DRob as a secondary scorer and P&R game with Kyrie was a better fit and a little cheaper.

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