Lenny Wilkens Draft - Discussion

Post #81 » by **MadNESS** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:46 am

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durantbird · Post #82 » by **durantbird** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 4:50 pm

lilroddyb wrote:In

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flaco · Post #83 » by **flaco** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 5:31 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:The 6th overall PG is not even the craziest non-pick in this draft imo (for the other guy some of it is my fault for forgetting)

Don't think there has ever been a game this guy was eligible and was left on the board!

Kinda having second thoughts about my strategy in this game. KD gave me versatility, but he deprived me of the OKC pool way too early. Billups was all about versatility as well (can do a little bit of everything and was available in 3 different categories), but he plays the deepest position in the draft. In retrospect, I might have been better off abandoning the 5-out concept and going for McHale. Couldn't have afforded peak Vince Carter though.

I think db has the team to beat in this game. Despite the distinct old school vibe, he still got a well-fitting team with good spacing: 3 perimeter-oriented players (2 of whom are arguably top 5 shooters ever), a mobile big and a slasher. Reed and Frazier were excellent value in the middle of the draft.

durantbird · Post #84 » by **durantbird** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 6:28 pm

flaco wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:The 6th overall PG is not even the craziest non-pick in this draft imo (for the other guy some of it is my fault for forgetting)

Don't think there has ever been a game this guy was eligible and was left on the board!

Kinda having second thoughts about my strategy in this game. KD gave me versatility, but he deprived me of the OKC pool way too early. Billups was all about versatility as well (can do a little bit of everything and was available in 3 different categories), but he plays the deepest position in the draft. In retrospect, I might have been better off abandoning the 5-out concept and going for McHale. Couldn't have afforded peak Vince Carter though.

I think db has the team to beat in this game. Despite the distinct old school vibe, he still got a well-fitting team with good spacing: 3 perimeter-oriented players (2 of whom are arguably top 5 shooters ever), a mobile big and a slasher. Reed and Frazier were excellent value in the middle of the draft.

I also forgot the OKC PG being available. Might have went with him instead of Allen if I remembered him. Turned out for the best though.

I believe wack is targeting him, he still has OKC category open. Will be pretty wild to see him as last pick.

Thought roddy will take him too.

wackbone · Post #85 » by **wackbone** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 6:29 pm

durantbird wrote:
flaco wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:The 6th overall PG is not even the craziest non-pick in this draft imo (for the other guy some of it is my fault for forgetting)

Don't think there has ever been a game this guy was eligible and was left on the board!

Kinda having second thoughts about my strategy in this game. KD gave me versatility, but he deprived me of the OKC pool way too early. Billups was all about versatility as well (can do a little bit of everything and was available in 3 different categories), but he plays the deepest position in the draft. In retrospect, I might have been better off abandoning the 5-out concept and going for McHale. Couldn't have afforded peak Vince Carter though.

I think db has the team to beat in this game. Despite the distinct old school vibe, he still got a well-fitting team with good spacing: 3 perimeter-oriented players (2 of whom are arguably top 5 shooters ever), a mobile big and a slasher. Reed and Frazier were excellent value in the middle of the draft.

I also forgot the OKC PG being available. Might have went with him instead of Allen if I remembered him. Turned out for the best though.

I believe wack is targeting him, he still has OKC category open. Will be pretty wild to see him as last pick.

Thought roddy will take him too.

wackbone · Post #86 » by **wackbone** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 6:31 pm

db has a stacked team to be sure, but I quite like mine as well. Massive difference in the benches tbh...

durantbird · Post #87 » by **durantbird** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 6:35 pm

wackbone wrote:db has a stacked team to be sure, but I quite like mine as well. Massive difference in the benches tbh...

Was worried I was investing in my starting lineup too much and too early and neglecting my bench, but I actually quite like it and think Wright-Hart-Thurmond is pretty solid. Almost took Wright-Covington instead of Wright-Frazier in rounds 5/6, but TBH not even sure how much more I prefer RoCo over the somewhat underused-in-our-games Hart.

durantbird · Post #88 » by **durantbird** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 6:38 pm

BTW was seriously considering Batum 2015 instead of Hart, but wasn't sure how this season will be perceived as he had a shooting slump at the specific season. Would have had to downgrade Reed 1970 to Reed 1969, but the latter was nearly the same impact-guy and finished 2nd in MVP votes.

Post #89 » by **MadNESS** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 7:07 pm

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Laimbeer · Post #90 » by **Laimbeer** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 7:37 pm

If anyone else was having problems with the site - I suddenly couldn't get in with my Chromebook or phone with the Chrome browser. Finally just restarted both devices (should have been my first thought) and it worked fine. Whatever the problem, it was unique to this site for me.

durantbird · Post #91 » by **durantbird** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 7:46 pm

Laimbeer wrote:If anyone else was having problems with the site - I suddenly couldn't get in with my Chromebook or phone with the Chrome browser. Finally just restarted both devices (should have been my first thought) and it worked fine. Whatever the problem, it was unique to this site for me.

I couldn't access it as well. Checked via https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/ which validated it's not just me

durantbird · Post #92 » by **durantbird** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 9:31 pm

The sixth pick still had some interesting names. For example, I think Josh Childress and Trent Tucker provide fine value for a modern setup

P.S. not sure which team is flaco rooting for in Greece (Olympiacos / Panathinaikos / other), but if it's Olympiacos, I'm sure he has a warm spot in his heart saved for Childress

durantbird · Post #93 » by **durantbird** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 9:37 pm

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lilroddyb wrote:...

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Please finish your teams and roster pages by EOD tomorrow

wackbone · Post #94 » by **wackbone** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:57 pm

In a category draft with the Blazers and the 6th Pick (both super shallow) as mandatory categories, I'm SHOCKED Dame went undrafted.

Post #95 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 11:32 pm

wackbone wrote:In a category draft with the Blazers and the 6th Pick (both super shallow) as mandatory categories, I'm SHOCKED Dame went undrafted.

I'm more mildly surprised than shocked. He's both very expensive and a defensive liability, and PG was absolutely loaded in this pool. You'd pretty much have to plan your draft around picking him, which isn't easy with all these other restrictions.

wackbone · Post #96 » by **wackbone** » Yesterday 12:31 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
wackbone wrote:In a category draft with the Blazers and the 6th Pick (both super shallow) as mandatory categories, I'm SHOCKED Dame went undrafted.

I'm more mildly surprised than shocked. He's both very expensive and a defensive liability, and PG was absolutely loaded in this pool. You'd pretty much have to plan your draft around picking him, which isn't easy with all these other restrictions.

Sure, but he's taken with regularity in significantly less restrictive drafts, although as you mentioned I suppose with less restrictions it's easier to make the full roster. But still.

durantbird · Post #97 » by **durantbird** » Yesterday 5:12 pm

Laimbeer wrote: Patrick Ewing ( 1989 ) 16.0 - NYK MVP (4)
Chris Bosh ( 2013 ) 12.3 - TOR World Champ, All-NBA votes
LeBron James ( 2009 ) 19.9 - CLE MVP (1); DPOY (2)
Jalen Williams ( 2024 ) 14.0 - OKC Breakout; 42.7% on 3.4 3PA
Jason Kidd ( 2009 ) 7.6 - Coach Perfect glue guy, 40.6% on 4.0 3PA

Mike Muscala ( 2017 ) 4.8 - ATL 41.8% on 1.6 3PA
Robert Covington ( 2022 ) 8.2 - POR 37.9% on 5.1 3PA, All-D votes
Lenny Wilkins ( 1975 ) 4.7 - 6 Player/Coach; AST % 27.2

87.5

Patrick Ewing (38) / Mike Muscala (8) / Chris Bosh (2)
Chris Bosh (36) / Robert Covington (4) LeBron James (8)
LeBron James (30) / Robert Covington (10)
Jalen Williams (38) / Robert Covington (10)
Jason Kidd (38) / Lenny Wilkins (8) / LeBron James (2)

Your calculation is too high for both RoCo and Wilkens

durantbird · Post #98 » by **durantbird** » Yesterday 5:13 pm

lilroddyb wrote:C: Dikembe Mutombo 30 min/ Theo Ratliff 8 min/ Evan Mobley 10 min
Pf: Evan Mobley 28 min / Kevin McHale 20 min
Sf: Kawhi Leonard 38 min / Kevin McHale 10 min
Sg: Hersey Hawkins 24 min / James Harden 24 min
Pg: Anfernee Hardaway 36 min / James Harden 12 min

2017 Kawhi Leonard 17.7 ( Raptors )
2025 Evan Mobley 12.8 ( Cleveland )
2000 Dikembe Mutombo 7 ( Atlanta )
1996 Anfernee Hardaway 14.8 ( New York )
1998 Hersey Hawkins 7.8 ( 6th pick )
2012 James Harden 10.1 ( OKC )
2005 Theo Ratliff 4.1 ( Portland )

tfga: 74.3

Please fix the fga calculation with McHale

durantbird · Post #99 » by **durantbird** » Yesterday 5:19 pm

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Play in Mr Ringer vs Dr Positivity

durantbird · Post #100 » by **durantbird** » Yesterday 8:13 pm

Laimbeer wrote:UPDATED

Patrick Ewing ( 1989 ) 16.0 - NYK MVP (4)
Chris Bosh ( 2013 ) 12.3 - TOR World Champ, All-NBA votes
LeBron James ( 2009 ) 19.9 - CLE MVP (1); DPOY (2)
Jalen Williams ( 2025 ) 16.9 - OKC All-NBA, all-D
Jason Kidd ( 2009 ) 7.6 - Coach Perfect glue guy, 40.6% on 4.0 3PA

Mike Muscala ( 2015 ) 3.8 - ATL 40.9% on 1.6 3PA per 36
Robert Covington ( 2021 ) 7.3 - POR 37.9% on 5.1 3PA, All-D votes
Lenny Wilkins ( 1975 ) 3.8 - 6 Player/Coach; AST % 27.2

87.6

Patrick Ewing (38) / Mike Muscala (10)
Chris Bosh (38) / LeBron James (10)
LeBron James (28) / Robert Covington (12)
Jalen Williams (28) / Lenny Wilkins (12)
Jason Kidd (28) / (12)

You can't use Muscala 15'. Missed the minimum game threshold. Also please fix backup PG minutes