Dwight Howard is a father

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Post#81 » by treis » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:20 am

Hairy Midget wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Ok, and when has he ever mentioned this since then? He NEVER talks about his religion. It was probably something he wanted when he was younger and now he knows that he shouldn't do that.

I pretty much haven't heard him say anything about religion since he was drafted by the Magic.


I don't claim to be a Howard scholar, but he at least did that thing at the All-star break. If he's toned it down since coming into the league, great.
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Post#82 » by yunggunz » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:28 am

treis wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I don't claim to be a Howard scholar, but he at least did that thing at the All-star break. If he's toned it down since coming into the league, great.


Exactly. He flaunted his religion on the biggest stage he has had in the NBA world. End of story.
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Post#83 » by UNLVNugsFan » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:39 am

The Nuggets beat him tonight, and thats all I care about.

Have a kid every time we play ya Dwight, we need as many wins as we can get.

Thanks.
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Post#84 » by KobeFarmarEra » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:41 am

I don't really care

But I hate people like Dwight (who claim HUR HUR I'M RELIGIOUSLY SUPERIOR WHILE SCREWING CHICKS I'M NOT MARRIED TOO etc)
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Post#85 » by CzBoobie » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:04 pm

bloody religion...
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Post#86 » by damo[23] » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:02 pm

OMG Dwight Howard, the first Christian to have sex and a child out of wedlock in the history of Christianity.

I think we need to stone him or something..
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Post#87 » by Iggyemu » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:09 pm

That dude got caught up. That chick pulled a fast one on him. Tough luck there Dwight. Gotta know what these groupies number 1 thought is when they see you dunking on fools. And he better not go and marry that chick either. Pay the child support and leave it at that.
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Post#88 » by Muzzleshot » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:22 pm

damo[23] wrote:OMG Dwight Howard, the first Christian to have sex and a child out of wedlock in the history of Christianity.

I think we need to stone him or something..


^ I wish there was a straw man emoticon for that comment.

Not stone him, but maybe he needs to lower himself from the pedestal he seems to want to place himself on.

I said it when I was 18 and I'll say it now, you have to be a dope to be a participant in an unplanned pregnancy and according to the mother of the woman involved it was unplanned. Instead of wanting to put crosses on jerseys he should have been more concerned about putting a condemn on his thingy. Not to mention there are other safeguards that can be taken.

I don't care that much about his religious beliefs, it's his intelligence that I question.
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Post#89 » by aussie_magic » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:43 pm

i love how everyone has all the facts, last time i checked a 3 year relationship wasnt classed as a one night stand.....
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Post#90 » by og15 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:00 pm

The Flyest wrote:his 12' dunk sticker in dunk contest was a bible quote wasnt it

Pretty sure he's allowed to do that if he wants to, I don't see a problem there.

I don't claim to be a Howard scholar, but he at least did that thing at the All-star break. If he's toned it down since coming into the league, great.

So you're saying he should never speak of or relate anything in his life to his religion even though it affects and is part of his life? What exactly is wrong with him having a bible verse on his sticker? Were people somehow offended by that? I don't understand what's going on here.

Exactly. He flaunted his religion on the biggest stage he has had in the NBA world. End of story.

...but again, what exactly is wrong in him doing that?

Anyone who thinks these two were dating, talking, seeing each other, etc. etc. are out of their mind. And anyone who faults Dwight for it is a moron as well.

I don't get this? So Dwight had nothing to do with the baby being concieved? I'm not going to hate on him or call him any names, things happen. Sexual attraction is a very strong attraction, you don't have a girl alone in your house, or wherever and then at that point start deciding "oh maybe this is wrong", what you believe is not going to be foremost in your mind when you've reached that level. But to say we can't fault him for sleeping with a girl and impregnating her without seemingly wanting to have a child is kind of odd to me.
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Post#91 » by Sedale Threatt » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:31 pm

Iggyemu wrote:That dude got caught up. That chick pulled a fast one on him. Tough luck there Dwight. Gotta know what these groupies number 1 thought is when they see you dunking on fools. And he better not go and marry that chick either. Pay the child support and leave it at that.


How the hell did she pull a fast one on him?

Real simple -- if you don't want to pay child support or have kids out of wedlock, don't be banging chicks you're not going to marry without wrapping it up. That's all on Dwight.
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Post#92 » by B Mac » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:48 pm

I might not have the story completely correct here, but King David, who was named as a man after God's own heart, saw a woman bathing on a roof and wanted to bang her. He had his servants go get her and then did his deed on her. Afterword he had her husband sent to the front lines of the war so he would be killed. He realized afterword what he had done was a sin (which all humans do) and asked for God's forgiveness. He went on to be one of the greatest leaders in Christianity.

Dwight wasnt the first well known Christian to be tempted, and he wont be the last. The point it God's love is about forgiveness. Dwight will go on to do great things, and Im sure he will go on to use his story as a way to help teens ge through their own similar situations.

All of you who are celebrating the fact that Dwight sinned to promote your own anti-Christianity are an embarassment. I mean really what kind of person takes joy in seeing another man fall like that? So you dont like Christianity what right does that give you to publically mock someone who does?

Congrats to Dwight, hopefully this kid truly becomes his perfect mistake.
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Post#93 » by Nashty » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:07 pm

There should be an 11th commandment. Penis > God!
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Post#94 » by tsherkin » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:34 pm

So congratulations to Dwight.

IMO, his attitude towards talking about the child has more to do with being uninterested in discussing his personal life with the media, which is indicated by the remainder of the quote.

As to the rest... congratulate the man on having a child and move on. So he's religious... and maybe made a mistake. Deal with it. He's very enthusiastic about his religion and for some, that grates.

Oh well.

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Post#95 » by Prince187 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:21 pm

I don't understand how anybody could not lose some respect for Howard. I don't give a **** what he does in his personal life but don't claim to be a "devout" Christian and then have premarital sex and father a child out of wedlock. There are some misguided kids who actually look up to that guy.
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Post#96 » by theTHIEF » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:33 pm

tsherkin wrote:So congratulations to Dwight.

IMO, his attitude towards talking about the child has more to do with being uninterested in discussing his personal life with the media, which is indicated by the remainder of the quote.

As to the rest... congratulate the man on having a child and move on. So he's religious... and maybe made a mistake. Deal with it. He's very enthusiastic about his religion and for some, that grates.

Oh well.

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Post#97 » by treis » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:45 pm

og15 wrote:So you're saying he should never speak of or relate anything in his life to his religion even though it affects and is part of his life? What exactly is wrong with him having a bible verse on his sticker? Were people somehow offended by that? I don't understand what's going on here.


"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full."

Matthew 6:5

The Bible FTW!

Seriously though, I don't have any problem with someone being devoutly religious. I do find it annoying when people hold themselves better than everyone else because they are devoutly religious, and take it upon themselves to decide that I need to be saved.
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Post#98 » by Sedale Threatt » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:52 pm

Exactly. You're free to believe what you want to believe in this country, one of the many things that makes it so great.

But when you hold yourself up as some kind of religious role model, and proclaim that you're going to use your fame and influence to spread the gospel, as he clearly did before entering the league, you best not be slipping up like Dwight did.

As stated in this excerpt from USA Today: Howard's game plan is simple. He won't beat people over the head with faith. He says he will let his actions speak.

Oops.

Oh well, just hopes he takes care of his child like he should. That's the only thing that really matters.
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Post#99 » by og15 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:32 am

treis wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full."

Matthew 6:5

The Bible FTW!

Seriously though, I don't have any problem with someone being devoutly religious. I do find it annoying when people hold themselves better than everyone else because they are devoutly religious, and take it upon themselves to decide that I need to be saved.

I can't really say you used that verse in it's proper context, though I did like the "bible FTW", lol. Are you implying that Dwight did that just so he could say "hey look everyone, I'm a Christian, think highly of me". He could have done that, but one could also conclude that he put the verse to get whatever message was on that verse out, and not to say "look at me, I know a Bible verse". It's not neccesarily the popular thing to be the guy that knows a bible verse, so that in itself negates the comparison, depending on his actual motive for doing it. One is not neccesarily getting any earthly reward from what Dwight did, as your own comments in relation to him doing it could also arguably be showing.

In the context of that verse, the men described as "hypocrites" were doing that among other Jews who believed the same thing, and were trying to say "look at me, I'm more holy than the rest of you because I pray 2 hours straight on the streets, all while not truly striving to live a godly life.

I agree with you about people holding themselves higher than someone else. They have no right, since according to Christian theology, they themselves didn't do anything outside of accepting to be "saved" to attain that salvation. I can't see the wrong in them wanting others to be "saved" though. It's like finding something good and wanting all your friends to enjoy that same goodness. If I'm the first man to find that exercise is good for the body, and I want to tell everyone and get them doing it too, does that mean I think I'm better than them because I'm exercising? Certianly not, but I want them to enjoy the same benefits I feel I am recieving from this exercise. Am I going to force them to exercise? No, but would it be wrong for me to tell them that exercise is good for them, and they should think of trying it? Don't think so, even if they're the laziest person I know. That's the same premise the sharing of his Christian faith would have, or should have. The person says, hey, I've found something that I feel is good for people in general, and I want all to share in this thing, even one who might be on the opposite spectrum of what this entails.


But when you hold yourself up as some kind of religious role model, and proclaim that you're going to use your fame and influence to spread the gospel, as he clearly did before entering the league, you best not be slipping up like Dwight did.

This is also true. He wouldn't have any backlash in terms of his religious beliefs if he didn't I suppose put himself on the spot. At least somewhat as I don't know if he ever implied he was bigger than to make mistakes, but I didn't pay much attention to all he said. Again, that isn't to say a christian, or a christian leader can't fall, or anything close to that, don't even know where this idea ever came from. The point is not to act like one is above reproach, or above doing wrong, because that in itself causes one to "fall" as one puts themself in situations to do what they don't believe, thinking they can just turn away or say no whenver they want, lol.

Oh well, just hopes he takes care of his child like he should. That's the only thing that really matters.

Yup, definately after all the discussion, this is the most important thing, that he takes care of the child. Obviously if would be ideal for the child if he (Dwight) nourishes and builds the relationship with the girl to a further level, but I have no clue about that situation.
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Post#100 » by D.Brasco » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:17 am

The ironic thing is and im hoping im wrong is that the child was probably conceived because dwight viewed condoms as evil.

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