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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#81 » by GuyverADL » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:14 pm

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Uhhh.. You really think they would hand the reigns over to a guy who has upside but let's face it, has not been what he was expected to be since coming to the NBA? Part of that is because... he hasn't gotten the playing time but still.. I don't think that's the case.

I think if this rumor is true... Duhon's fate is being determined in the long term.


Actually Jose,I do...they did it last year with Duhon...they are taking a chance on Sergio and hoping he pans out...just like they did for Duhon...If Sergio comes hes got the starting role...I like this move a ton. Duhon is not what D'Antoni wants...so they are moving on.


I think the 3 yr extension says it all.

Still wouldnt mind having Bayless, Webster, and the 24th pick
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#82 » by magnumt » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:27 pm

magnumt wrote:Does this mean that Derozan or Evans is more likely a target now? Or, we are REALLY going to trade up for Rubio or Thabeet?


To add to this:

Assuming we're not trading the 8th Pick in the rumored deal for Sergio...I think NY might either Draft one of the following now if they're available: Holiday, Evans, Derozan (he and Chandler would make an awesome pairing :droop: ), Harden (if he falls), or Trade up for Thabeet.

OR, if NY does decide to Draft a Curry or Rubio (trade up), they will look to probably move Duhon for either a future Draft Pick to fill the 2010 one we don't have, or paired with Jefferies for Cap Relief.

We may be only hearing the foundation of this rumored deal though (remember another deal last Year for NY--Zach Randolph Trade--where we only heard the basics in the media before the bigger deal was consummated). It could be that our 8th is involved, but we may be also getting back Outlaw, Bayless, and/or their 24th (or their Second Rounders), because they're supposedly high on a one or two guys.

One things though I loved the day we got Donnie (and subsequently Mike), is that we FINALLY have re-entered the International Game. Our Scouting Depts. have been revamped, our Team now explores all options (not just the big names), and we finally have rumors linking us to good International Players (Gallo, Rubio, Cabezas, Gorat, Rodriguez, Delfino, etc.). After Years of watching Teams like the Spurs, Rockets, Suns, and Grizzlies reap the rewards of smart Euro & World scouting...it's good to see us be at it again.
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#83 » by NoLayupRule » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:31 pm

If Sergio comes here its not spelling the end of the interest in S. Curry. For starters Curry isnt coming in as a NBA ready play-making point. Playing alongside a guy like Sergio would make a guy like Curry much better.

IMO its Curry in addition to Sergio, not instead of.

I have to wonder, with all this repeating of a source-less rumor, if Port would be a trade partner for us. Lee and Jeffries to Port for Sergio, re-signed to LLE Frye, and the 2010 pick.

thats far from equal to Lee's worth. Far from. But perhaps acceptable.
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#84 » by EchelonNYK » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:32 pm

Can you imagine Chandler & DeRozan on a 2 and 1 break? choose your poison Mr. defender, because something bad is about to happen :).
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Post#85 » by Pharmcat » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:33 pm

i like sergio, and it wont cost a lot to get him

im all for it
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#86 » by gavran » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:34 pm

magnumt wrote:Assuming we're not trading the 8th Pick in the rumored deal for Sergio...

Why do we have to even assume this? I don't get some of you guys' fear. Rodriguez was taken with the 27th pick 3 yearg ago, and showed just enough to be worth a 2nd round pick in a weak draft. We shouldn't even thinking about the scenerio where Donnie sends our pick for him, because it's stupid.
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Post#87 » by Pharmcat » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:36 pm

sergio has a bad shot, but im willing to let it slide cuz hes never gotten consistent time on the floor

i like him thou in a run and gun system
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#88 » by GuyverADL » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:39 pm

magnumt wrote:
magnumt wrote:Does this mean that Derozan or Evans is more likely a target now? Or, we are REALLY going to trade up for Rubio or Thabeet?


To add to this:

Assuming we're not trading the 8th Pick in the rumored deal for Sergio...I think NY might either Draft one of the following now if they're available: Holiday, Evans, Derozan (he and Chandler would make an awesome pairing :droop: ), Harden (if he falls), or Trade up for Thabeet.

OR, if NY does decide to Draft a Curry or Rubio (trade up), they will look to probably move Duhon for either a future Draft Pick to fill the 2010 one we don't have, or paired with Jefferies for Cap Relief.

We may be only hearing the foundation of this rumored deal though (remember another deal last Year for NY--Zach Randolph Trade--where we only heard the basics in the media before the bigger deal was consummated). It could be that our 8th is involved, but we may be also getting back Outlaw, Bayless, and/or their 24th (or their Second Rounders), because they're supposedly high on a one or two guys.

One things though I loved the day we got Donnie (and subsequently Mike), is that we FINALLY have re-entered the International Game. Our Scouting Depts. have been revamped, our Team now explores all options (not just the big names), and we finally have rumors linking us to good International Players (Gallo, Rubio, Cabezas, Gorat, Rodriguez, Delfino, etc.). After Years of watching Teams like the Spurs, Rockets, Suns, and Grizzlies reap the rewards of smart Euro & World scouting...it's good to see us be at it again.


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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#89 » by Pedro Pistolas » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:43 pm

echelonNYK wrote:Can you imagine Chandler & DeRozan on a 2 and 1 break? choice your poison Mr. defender, because something bad is about to happen :).


If Sergio is coming here , Derozan has to be the the pick at 8 IMO. I won't be able to stomach Curry and Sergio guarding these NBA wings. But you know what Lebron did take a Cavalier team with smaller guards to the ECF .. :dontknow: :dontknow:
So this should be very interesting how all this unfolds...
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Post#90 » by TKF » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:46 pm

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magnumt wrote:Does this mean that Derozan or Evans is more likely a target now? Or, we are REALLY going to trade up for Rubio or Thabeet?


To add to this:

Assuming we're not trading the 8th Pick in the rumored deal for Sergio...I think NY might either Draft one of the following now if they're available: Holiday, Evans, Derozan (he and Chandler would make an awesome pairing :droop: ), Harden (if he falls), or Trade up for Thabeet.

OR, if NY does decide to Draft a Curry or Rubio (trade up), they will look to probably move Duhon for either a future Draft Pick to fill the 2010 one we don't have, or paired with Jefferies for Cap Relief.

We may be only hearing the foundation of this rumored deal though (remember another deal last Year for NY--Zach Randolph Trade--where we only heard the basics in the media before the bigger deal was consummated). It could be that our 8th is involved, but we may be also getting back Outlaw, Bayless, and/or their 24th (or their Second Rounders), because they're supposedly high on a one or two guys.

One things though I loved the day we got Donnie (and subsequently Mike), is that we FINALLY have re-entered the International Game. Our Scouting Depts. have been revamped, our Team now explores all options (not just the big names), and we finally have rumors linking us to good International Players (Gallo, Rubio, Cabezas, Gorat, Rodriguez, Delfino, etc.). After Years of watching Teams like the Spurs, Rockets, Suns, and Grizzlies reap the rewards of smart Euro & World scouting...it's good to see us be at it again.


that is a very good point, and on top of that, I like the way we are making smart moves with non big named players, boosting their value and having that as a viable trading chip.. for example duhon. Just think, how many teams that need a PG, will now take a look at duhon? Smart signing... And as you said, we are smartly exploring the international market...
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#91 » by magnumt » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:46 pm

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magnumt wrote:Assuming we're not trading the 8th Pick in the rumored deal for Sergio...

Why do we have to even assume this? I don't get some of you guys' fear. Rodriguez was taken with the 27th pick 3 yearg ago, and showed just enough to be worth a 2nd round pick in a weak draft. We shouldn't even thinking about the scenerio where Donnie sends our pick for him, because it's stupid.


:-?

Did you bother to even read the rest of my post, or just got stuck on the 1st line? The reason I ask is because I gave a scenario/reasons in which me might move our 8th.

BTW, the Gen. NBA Board has now gotten wind of the Trade idea...should be fun (if you visit be on good behavior--even if someone baits you--we'll try to keep it as clean as possible, but don't get yourself into trouble).
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#92 » by magnumt » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:49 pm

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magnumt wrote:
magnumt wrote:Does this mean that Derozan or Evans is more likely a target now? Or, we are REALLY going to trade up for Rubio or Thabeet?


To add to this:

Assuming we're not trading the 8th Pick in the rumored deal for Sergio...I think NY might either Draft one of the following now if they're available: Holiday, Evans, Derozan (he and Chandler would make an awesome pairing :droop: ), Harden (if he falls), or Trade up for Thabeet.

OR, if NY does decide to Draft a Curry or Rubio (trade up), they will look to probably move Duhon for either a future Draft Pick to fill the 2010 one we don't have, or paired with Jefferies for Cap Relief.

We may be only hearing the foundation of this rumored deal though (remember another deal last Year for NY--Zach Randolph Trade--where we only heard the basics in the media before the bigger deal was consummated). It could be that our 8th is involved, but we may be also getting back Outlaw, Bayless, and/or their 24th (or their Second Rounders), because they're supposedly high on a one or two guys.

One things though I loved the day we got Donnie (and subsequently Mike), is that we FINALLY have re-entered the International Game. Our Scouting Depts. have been revamped, our Team now explores all options (not just the big names), and we finally have rumors linking us to good International Players (Gallo, Rubio, Cabezas, Gorat, Rodriguez, Delfino, etc.). After Years of watching Teams like the Spurs, Rockets, Suns, and Grizzlies reap the rewards of smart Euro & World scouting...it's good to see us be at it again.


Did Indiana ever draft any successful Euro's?


Did you actually just spend brain cells making that connection>? :roll: :nonono:

And yes: Primo. See below, in case you need proof. :lol:

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Brezec was chosen by the Indiana Pacers with the 27th overall pick of the 2000 NBA Draft. After three years with little playing time, he was picked up in the 2004 expansion draft by the Charlotte Bobcats. As their starting center, Brezec averaged career-highs of 13.0 points and 7.4 rebounds per game during the 2004-05 NBA season. He also scored the first points, made the first turnover and the first free-throws in the history of the franchise.

On December 14, 2007, Brezec, along with Bobcats teammate Wálter Herrmann, was traded to the Detroit Pistons for center Nazr Mohammed.[2]

On the 2008 NBA trade deadline, February 21, Brezec, along with cash considerations, was traded to the Toronto Raptors in exchange for Juan Dixon.[3] During his Raptor debut he hit all five of his shots and finished with 11 points, three rebounds and a block in 13 minutes off the bench against the New York Knicks in a February 24 win.

In early March, just two weeks after Brezec joined the Raptors, a fan started a website called ReSignPrimoz.com,[4] to convince the Canadian franchise to re-sign the center to a contract-extension in the off season, to no avail.
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#93 » by Synciere » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:50 pm

I don't get the excitement for Rodriguez at all. While I haven't watched him on the level many of you have, I've seen enough to know I'm not trading for him if it costs anything more than cash. Why we would include our 8th pick in this draft for anyone on Portland's team not named Aldridge is beyond me...

While some may be high on the Bayless/Webster/Outlaw/#24 speculation, I don't think that's the best use of our resources right now. The original report stated we like Rodriguez as a backup PG, so we'd still be looking for a starter. That to me means Curry and any other PG in this draft would still be in play...
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#94 » by jhern87 » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:51 pm

PO fan here... I hope this is true (and I don't even know what we're getting).. Sergio is a good guy and I've always wanted to see him in Dantoni's system.. It wouldn't surprise me to see him do very well for you guys..
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Post#95 » by magnumt » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:52 pm

TKF wrote:that is a very good point, and on top of that, I like the way we are making smart moves with non big named players, boosting their value and having that as a viable trading chip.. for example duhon. Just think, how many teams that need a PG, will now take a look at duhon? Smart signing... And as you said, we are smartly exploring the international market...


Thanks. :D

And indeed, we're doing what the Suns (and many other successful Teams out West did), in that we're looking at good cheap guys that fill the same roles as their more expensive counterparts. Zeke started this thinking near the end of his Term, but never really followed through on it (he was obsessed with the CBA guys :lol: ). The Magic or Rockets would love to have a Duhon on their Team (heck even the Lakers). And yeah, it's about damn time we got back into the International Game. :lol:
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Post#96 » by TKF » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:52 pm

Synciere wrote:I don't get the excitement for Rodriguez at all. While I haven't watched him on the level many of you have, I've seen enough to know I'm not trading for him if it costs anything more than cash. Why we would include our 8th pick in this draft for anyone on Portland's team not named Aldridge is beyond me...

While some may be high on the Bayless/Webster/Outlaw/#24 speculation, I don't think that's the best use of our resources right now. The original report stated we like Rodriguez as a backup PG, so we'd still be looking for a starter. That to me means Curry and any other PG in this draft would still be in play...



very good point, I highly doubt we include a top 8 lottery pick in a deal to get a guy like Sergio, so I think that kind of speculation is just way off...
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Post#97 » by Blazinaway » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:53 pm

another Blazer fan, wonder why we wait to draft day, has to make me think a larger deal is involved. You guys hearing anything else, maybe Lee or the 8 pick?
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Post#98 » by TKF » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:54 pm

magnumt wrote:
TKF wrote:that is a very good point, and on top of that, I like the way we are making smart moves with non big named players, boosting their value and having that as a viable trading chip.. for example duhon. Just think, how many teams that need a PG, will now take a look at duhon? Smart signing... And as you said, we are smartly exploring the international market...


Thanks. :D

And indeed, we're doing what the Suns (and many other successful Teams out West did), in that we're looking at good cheap guys that fill the same roles as their more expensive counterparts. Zeke started this thinking near the end of his Term, but never really followed through on it (he was obsessed with the CBA guys :lol: ). The Magic or Rockets would love to have a Duhon on their Team (heck even the Lakers). And yeah, it's about damn time we got back into the International Game. :lol:


I think isiah was great at drafting talent and finding good value, he was just bad at making deals, because he never seemed to have a gameplan, and when he realized his mistakes, was too stubborn to admit it and make the necessary moves to correct it right away..

I think duhon would be great on the rockets as well as the lakers, and again, when was the last time we had a team with players other teams wanted. Lee, nate, etc.....
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#99 » by Crimson King » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:55 pm

Synciere wrote:The original report stated we like Rodriguez as a backup PG, so we'd still be looking for a starter. That to me means Curry and any other PG in this draft would still be in play...


You may be right, but the original report doesn't talk about starters or back ups.
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Re: Rumor: Sergio a Knick? 

Post#100 » by GuyverADL » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:58 pm

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Brezec is no longer in the NBA so Im not impressed. If Toronto doesnt want you then that is a problem.

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