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[the_process]

Per the wiretap; Raps tried to get Noel with a package headlined by Terrence Ross. LOL. I like Ross more than most, but wow, seems like every team is lowballing the Sixers

Everybody knows Bryan's history. All the slick GM's are trying to test the waters and see if they can pull a heist. Luckily, so far Bryan has resisted doing something dumb.

[Andre Roberstan]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/748370247145644032[/tweet]

And another one.

[pelifan]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/748370247145644032[/tweet]

And another one.

Add Conley (Broussard ) and Bazemore to Pelicans interests.

[DK-All Day]

Per the wiretap; Raps tried to get Noel with a package headlined by Terrence Ross. LOL. I like Ross more than most, but wow, seems like every team is lowballing the Sixers

Everybody knows Bryan's history. All the slick GM's are trying to test the waters and see if they can pull a heist. Luckily, so far Bryan has resisted doing something dumb.

Let's see how long that holds up. BC will crack eventually.

[bondom34]

This seems like a bad pitch.

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/06/29/clippers-reported-primary-pitch-to-kevin-durant-involves-him-taking-pay-cut-to-play-with-chris-paul-deandre-jordan-and-blake-griffin/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[nickhx2]

well, they feel that a team with kd/cp3/blake/dj is a more enticing team than kd/cp3/jj/1 of blake or dj, at the expense of 7m dollars (assuming that figure's correct).

playing with two other superstars and a tier 1 center and a popular coach who is pretty good might just be worth some sacrifice, and i don't think that makes it a bad pitch.

[reload141]

This seems like a bad pitch.

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/06/29/clippers-reported-primary-pitch-to-kevin-durant-involves-him-taking-pay-cut-to-play-with-chris-paul-deandre-jordan-and-blake-griffin/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Agreed. With no bench at all... Blake/CP3 go down they will be in serious trouble.

[bondom34]

well, they feel that a team with kd/cp3/blake/dj is a more enticing team than kd/cp3/jj/1 of blake or dj, at the expense of 7m dollars (assuming that figure's correct).

playing with two other superstars and a tier 1 center and a popular coach who is pretty good might just be worth some sacrifice, and i don't think that makes it a bad pitch.

Its his first payday and he'd be on a team with 2 guys clearly worse making their max.

[pelifan]

LAC would be better off finding a trade of Blake for some pieces and let Durant know they have one agreed upon if he signs.

[nickhx2]

well, they feel that a team with kd/cp3/blake/dj is a more enticing team than kd/cp3/jj/1 of blake or dj, at the expense of 7m dollars (assuming that figure's correct).

playing with two other superstars and a tier 1 center and a popular coach who is pretty good might just be worth some sacrifice, and i don't think that makes it a bad pitch.

Its his first payday and he'd be on a team with 2 guys clearly worse making their max.

well if that's a thing for him then that's a thing for him, and it clearly is for many athletes. but do you know for sure he'd automatically reject an offer that starts at only 2m annually under the max? or that not being the highest paid guy on the team would cause issues for him?

as i said before, if he finds value in the situation, he might find it to be worth it. and not being able to offer the max is clearly suboptimal but i don't see that as a bad pitch in itself given the rest.

[bondom34]

well, they feel that a team with kd/cp3/blake/dj is a more enticing team than kd/cp3/jj/1 of blake or dj, at the expense of 7m dollars (assuming that figure's correct).

playing with two other superstars and a tier 1 center and a popular coach who is pretty good might just be worth some sacrifice, and i don't think that makes it a bad pitch.

Its his first payday and he'd be on a team with 2 guys clearly worse making their max.

well if that's a thing for him then that's a thing for him, and it clearly is for many athletes. but do you know for sure he'd automatically reject an offer that starts at only 2m annually under the max? or that not being the highest paid guy on the team would cause issues for him?

as i said before, if he finds value in the situation, he might find it to be worth it. and not being able to offer the max is clearly suboptimal but i don't see that as a bad pitch in itself given the rest.

I wouldn't say its definitely a thing, but in general when you're pitching someon on a job, the pitch shouldn't involve it. If he's willing great, but you don't want to ask.

[bondom34]

Hey Al, wanna play for your old college coach?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/748399058859999232[/tweet]

[nickhx2]

a couple things:

i'd be reasonably sure they will pitch both the reduced salary option to him, in addition to the nuclear option of moving either blake or dj if they could get him. if he says "nope i want to be maxed out end of story" then they will jump all over themselves to get rid of blake or dj. moreover, he's not a dumb guy, a pitch should reasonably include all reasonable, available options.

and it's not like they would be trying to lowball him for the sake of saving money. it'd be with the intent of creating a dramatically stronger team. your point would have more equivalence if we were talking about a real world with no motivations other than someone trying to get the maximum for his services. and clearly they're banking on KD sacrificing some of his money in exchange for greater championship equity.

[Andre Roberstan]

Hey Al, wanna play for your old college coach?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/748399058859999232[/tweet]

Not gonna say I told you so, but I did.

[bondom34]

a couple things:

i'd be reasonably sure they will pitch both the reduced salary option to him, in addition to the nuclear option of moving either blake or dj if they could get him. if he says "nope i want to be maxed out end of story" then they will jump all over themselves to get rid of blake or dj. moreover, he's not a dumb guy, a pitch should reasonably include all reasonable, available options.

and it's not like they would be trying to lowball him for the sake of saving money. it'd be with the intent of creating a dramatically stronger team. your point would have more equivalence if we were talking about a real world with no motivations other than someone trying to get the maximum for his services. and clearly they're banking on KD sacrificing some of his money in exchange for greater championship equity.

Fair, but, like when going to a job interview, its tough to have a big part of the pitch as taking less money.

[nickhx2]

oh i totally agree. in normal circumstances if an employer lead off with that, i'd feel super disrespected as would most people

[Dupp]

a couple things:

i'd be reasonably sure they will pitch both the reduced salary option to him, in addition to the nuclear option of moving either blake or dj if they could get him. if he says "nope i want to be maxed out end of story" then they will jump all over themselves to get rid of blake or dj. moreover, he's not a dumb guy, a pitch should reasonably include all reasonable, available options.

and it's not like they would be trying to lowball him for the sake of saving money. it'd be with the intent of creating a dramatically stronger team. your point would have more equivalence if we were talking about a real world with no motivations other than someone trying to get the maximum for his services. and clearly they're banking on KD sacrificing some of his money in exchange for greater championship equity.

Fair, but, like when going to a job interview, its tough to have a big part of the pitch as taking less money.

I think it's pretty reasonable and not really like a normal job at all. Like nickh said they would discuss all options with him.

I don't expect durant to leave but the Miami big three all took less money because they wanted to win badly enough.

That would be one amazing team with a core of cp3, durant, Blake and DJ.
I think it's a very good option. Probably his best option ( for winning) besides warriors but it'd come without a career of criticism the level he'd get joining golden state.

[sportscrazy]

a couple things:

i'd be reasonably sure they will pitch both the reduced salary option to him, in addition to the nuclear option of moving either blake or dj if they could get him. if he says "nope i want to be maxed out end of story" then they will jump all over themselves to get rid of blake or dj. moreover, he's not a dumb guy, a pitch should reasonably include all reasonable, available options.

and it's not like they would be trying to lowball him for the sake of saving money. it'd be with the intent of creating a dramatically stronger team. your point would have more equivalence if we were talking about a real world with no motivations other than someone trying to get the maximum for his services. and clearly they're banking on KD sacrificing some of his money in exchange for greater championship equity.

Fair, but, like when going to a job interview, its tough to have a big part of the pitch as taking less money.

I think it's pretty reasonable and not really like a normal job at all. Like nickh said they would discuss all options with him.

I don't expect durant to leave but the Miami big three all took less money because they wanted to win badly enough.

That would be one amazing team with a core of cp3, durant, Blake and DJ.
I think it's a very good option. Probably his best option ( for winning) besides warriors but it'd come without a career of criticism the level he'd get joining golden state.

Just a side point, I think the whole Durant getting criticism for going to Golden State thing is being overrated as a factor. With social media, athletes are criticized daily even if they make all of the right choices. I think his decision to go to the Warriors has a lot more to do with whether or not he wants to play there than his legacy taking a hit. If he stays in OKC, but never wins a ring for example, his legacy will take a hit any way.

[Dupp]

Fair, but, like when going to a job interview, its tough to have a big part of the pitch as taking less money.

I think it's pretty reasonable and not really like a normal job at all. Like nickh said they would discuss all options with him.

I don't expect durant to leave but the Miami big three all took less money because they wanted to win badly enough.

That would be one amazing team with a core of cp3, durant, Blake and DJ.
I think it's a very good option. Probably his best option ( for winning) besides warriors but it'd come without a career of criticism the level he'd get joining golden state.

Just a side point, I think the whole Durant getting criticism for going to Golden State thing is being overrated as a factor. With social media, athletes are criticized daily even if they make all of the right choices. I think his decision to go to the Warriors has a lot more to do with whether or not he wants to play there than his legacy taking a hit. If he stays in OKC, but never wins a ring for example, his legacy will take a hit any way.

I do agree but durant joining the Warriors is pretty unprecedented. A player of his caliber joining a 73 wiin and championship team. It'd be like Barkley joining Jordan's bulls.
There's been some "big threes" join in recent years but they were starting from scratch. I already considered Currys supporting casts one of the best ever.

Throw in durant and it's by far the best supporting cast for either durant or curry whoever you wanna say is the man. Would be a very boring season.

[bondom34]

Fair, but, like when going to a job interview, its tough to have a big part of the pitch as taking less money.

I think it's pretty reasonable and not really like a normal job at all. Like nickh said they would discuss all options with him.

I don't expect durant to leave but the Miami big three all took less money because they wanted to win badly enough.

That would be one amazing team with a core of cp3, durant, Blake and DJ.
I think it's a very good option. Probably his best option ( for winning) besides warriors but it'd come without a career of criticism the level he'd get joining golden state.

Just a side point, I think the whole Durant getting criticism for going to Golden State thing is being overrated as a factor. With social media, athletes are criticized daily even if they make all of the right choices. I think his decision to go to the Warriors has a lot more to do with whether or not he wants to play there than his legacy taking a hit. If he stays in OKC, but never wins a ring for example, his legacy will take a hit any way.

Eh...he's never seen any criticism, especially like that would be. That would be 2010 Lebron again.

As for the pay thing, I'd just disagree its not off putting. I really think its a bad look in a sit down meeting to have that as an asking point early on.