Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15

[Skin]

Magic don't leak any info, so nothing to ser here, just a kid posting on social media

However i m. Sure that we looked at many players and he could have been one of them

Could've been leaked by the player, an agent or the other team.

This sounds totally reasonable.

[zaymon]

Magic don't leak any info, so nothing to ser here, just a kid posting on social media

However i m. Sure that we looked at many players and he could have been one of them

Could've been leaked by the player, an agent or the other team.

This sounds totally reasonable.

Could also be a smokescreen. We have done that before with Smith jr., NAW.

[MagicFan101]

I’m sure we looked into it.

Edwards, Hayes and Haliburton were the names I was interested in at the top and felt were worthy of a trade (A few others I had hoped would fall).

Based on the super early results, Edwards and Haliburton have had nice moments while Hayes has been a disappointment.

Still, I would not make any long term assumptions on these guys (+ Cole) based on just a few games.


Without more info on what was offered to moved up, I can’t say what I think. Future picks are 100% off the table.

[pepe1991]

Type of game that presented key reason how projected top 5 pick ruined his draft stock

[zaymon]

Type of game that presented key reason how projected top 5 pick ruined his draft stock

I agree, but without Ross and Fournier there was not a lot to do against good 76ers defense. Thybule is also a great 1 on 1 defender.

[Knightro]

Anthony is taking 33% of his shots from "floater" range, 3-10 feet, but he's shooting just 25% from that distance.

That's a massive problem.

[zaymon]

Anthony is taking 33% of his shots from "floater" range, 3-10 feet, but he's shooting just 25% from that distance.

That's a massive problem.

I think that will be his highest priority in the offseason if he wants to be a lead guard.

[fendilim]

Anthony is taking 33% of his shots from "floater" range, 3-10 feet, but he's shooting just 25% from that distance.

That's a massive problem.

I think that will be his highest priority in the offseason if he wants to be a lead guard.

A lot of it comes with his body not being fully developed.

[VFX]

Anthony is taking 33% of his shots from "floater" range, 3-10 feet, but he's shooting just 25% from that distance.

That's a massive problem.

I’ve noticed that as well. He doesn’t make bad decisions per se, but he isn’t necessarily an efficient scorer. As a volume scorer he’s going to have to get more efficient and make better decisions if he ever wants to be a lead guard.

[Skin]

Anthony is taking 33% of his shots from "floater" range, 3-10 feet, but he's shooting just 25% from that distance.

That's a massive problem.

I think that will be his highest priority in the offseason if he wants to be a lead guard.

A lot of it comes with his body not being fully developed.

If he gets any bigger, he'll be the Marshmallow Man.

[Skin]

Anthony is taking 33% of his shots from "floater" range, 3-10 feet, but he's shooting just 25% from that distance.

That's a massive problem.

I’ve noticed that as well. He doesn’t make bad decisions per se, but he isn’t necessarily an efficient scorer. As a volume scorer he’s going to have to get more efficient and make better decisions if he ever wants to be a lead guard.

Hard for me to see him as a lead guard. He's way closer to DJ Augustin than CJ McCollum.

[penny_nz]

As people have said it's early, rookies so very rarely come in and are super efficient scorers, he's going to have good and bad stretches. They key things for me is do we see gradual improvement from the individual, and do the coaches do more to put him in better situations. I have concerns about the latter

[Def Swami]

Anthony is taking 33% of his shots from "floater" range, 3-10 feet, but he's shooting just 25% from that distance.

That's a massive problem.

I’ve noticed that as well. He doesn’t make bad decisions per se, but he isn’t necessarily an efficient scorer. As a volume scorer he’s going to have to get more efficient and make better decisions if he ever wants to be a lead guard.

Hard for me to see him as a lead guard. He's way closer to DJ Augustin than CJ McCollum.

You might be right. I think it's too early for those declarations though. CJ McCollum's first two seasons in the league were mired with similar problems as Anthony is having now. Anthony has been everything I've expected up to this point. If we go through '21-'22 and he's still struggling to finish to this extent or creating live ball turnovers, then I'll be concerned. But, IMHO, this is a huge learning curve for every rookie in the league. I've seen enough good stuff that I'm interested to see where this goes. Especially if Fultz's jumper never develops. Watching Darius Garland turn his career around after a disastrous rookie season is another example of us all needing to have patience with rookies.

This is such a uniquely weird season for all of these rookies to be thrust into. The absence of a summer league, shortened training camp and preseason, and the dearth of actual practice time during this season makes for a rough go for most of these rookies. I'm just glad that the team seems content to live with the growing pains while trying to develop Anthony and Okeke during the season.

[pepe1991]

I’ve noticed that as well. He doesn’t make bad decisions per se, but he isn’t necessarily an efficient scorer. As a volume scorer he’s going to have to get more efficient and make better decisions if he ever wants to be a lead guard.

Hard for me to see him as a lead guard. He's way closer to DJ Augustin than CJ McCollum.

You might be right. I think it's too early for those declarations though. CJ McCollum's first two seasons in the league were mired with similar problems as Anthony is having now. Anthony has been everything I've expected up to this point. If we go through '21-'22 and he's still struggling to finish to this extent or creating live ball turnovers, then I'll be concerned. But, IMHO, this is a huge learning curve for every rookie in the league. I've seen enough good stuff that I'm interested to see where this goes. Especially if Fultz's jumper never develops. Watching Darius Garland turn his career around after a disastrous rookie season is another example of us all needing to have patience with rookies.

This is such a uniquely weird season for all of these rookies to be thrust into. The absence of a summer league, shortened training camp and preseason, and the dearth of actual practice time during this season makes for a rough go for most of these rookies. I'm just glad that the team seems content to live with the growing pains while trying to develop Anthony and Okeke during the season.

Ehh, Garland's rookie year wasn't THAT bad. Still finished with 12 ppg/ 50% TS.
Garland also had no college experience whatsoever. He lasted for 5 games there, so he was greener than most of college guards.

My issue before draft, going into same issue after 5 games, is simply his shot selection. Among shots he menaged to make last night, there was some underhook spin -away from rim, 5 foot floating- throw in the air - thing. It's hard to even explain what he did. It's terrible shot that had no business going in. Another shot he made was off dribble, running - spinning mid range jumper.
Shots like that are flat out terrible and should be corrected to the point they won't be seen again. But with him it's repeating cycle from college. Him taking just horrendus shots.

[fendilim]

I think that will be his highest priority in the offseason if he wants to be a lead guard.

A lot of it comes with his body not being fully developed.

If he gets any bigger, he'll be the Marshmallow Man.

So are you suggesting him not going to the gym to lift weights? Lol

The guy is clearly having trouble finishing with contact. He needs to get more upper body strength.

[RookieStar]

Lol.. i wanna see cole play without that shirt woth sleeves underneath the jersey. He would probably look puny. As someone who probably is 6'2 barefoot im sure he could add a few lbs of muscle anf have the body of like CJ or Wall

[The Effect]

So killian hayes is 0-9 with 0 points, 1 rebound and 7 assists in his last 2 games combined....

Wonder what this board would say about him if he did that here

[VFX]

So killian hayes is 0-9 with 0 points, 1 rebound and 7 assists in his last 2 games combined....

Wonder what this board would say about him if he did that here

If only the Magic drafted NAW instead of Okeke. Maybe then Orlando wouldn’t have to overpay Fournier.

No but seriously...

I think most of us would say the same thing about him that a lot are saying about Cole’s “surprising” start, wait and see with rookies. The takeaways don’t mean this much early on unless they are the second coming of Doncic or Lebron.

[KillMonger]

just got to be patient with the kid, #15th pick, 1st year while in a pandemic, without summer league and without the early practices the team usually conducts but couldn't this season due to obvious reasons....If you're coachable you're going to get better

[basketballRob]

So killian hayes is 0-9 with 0 points, 1 rebound and 7 assists in his last 2 games combined....

Wonder what this board would say about him if he did that here

If only the Magic drafted NAW instead of Okeke. Maybe then Orlando wouldn’t have to overpay Fournier.

No but seriously...

I think most of us would say the same thing about him that a lot are saying about Cole’s “surprising” start, wait and see with rookies. The takeaways don’t mean this much early on unless they are the second coming of Doncic or Lebron.

I still really doubt Fournier is resigned here.

Sent from my SM-G950U using RealGM mobile app