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2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#801 » by Nick K » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:26 am

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Klomp wrote:He's a similar size to Beverley. From what I've seen, while maybe not on Pat's level (few are), I think he can still hold his own.


Think they're both decent prospects who likely top out as backup point guards. I like Dalen Terry somehat better as he's more versatile. He's 6'7 with a 7 foot WS. A scout was quoted in an TheAthletic article saying that he was the most competitive of the prospects they'd interviewed/worked out.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=kennedy-chandler--dalen-terry--tyty-washington


I can’t help but loving the Terry type of player. Tall, defensive, good passer, glue type guys. Players like Lonzo Ball, Jrue Holiday, Halliburton, etc, even if you don’t want them to be primary initiators, win games. In this class you have Daniels and Terry.

I’m not sure how Terry scores unless the shot really comes along. But I want him on the team. He could be a good compliment to Ant in the backcourt as a PatBev replacement if we decide to put the ball in Ants hands full time like the Celtics did with Tatum. The shot needs to fall and on volume though.

I’m not sure Terry is even there at 19.


I love Terry but he's a poor shooter. If you can't shoot you usually never will. That's the sad truth.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#802 » by Neeva » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:34 am

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jpatrick wrote:
SmokeyPaw wrote:
Think they're both decent prospects who likely top out as backup point guards. I like Dalen Terry somehat better as he's more versatile. He's 6'7 with a 7 foot WS. A scout was quoted in an TheAthletic article saying that he was the most competitive of the prospects they'd interviewed/worked out.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=kennedy-chandler--dalen-terry--tyty-washington


I can’t help but loving the Terry type of player. Tall, defensive, good passer, glue type guys. Players like Lonzo Ball, Jrue Holiday, Halliburton, etc, even if you don’t want them to be primary initiators, win games. In this class you have Daniels and Terry.

I’m not sure how Terry scores unless the shot really comes along. But I want him on the team. He could be a good compliment to Ant in the backcourt as a PatBev replacement if we decide to put the ball in Ants hands full time like the Celtics did with Tatum. The shot needs to fall and on volume though.

I’m not sure Terry is even there at 19.


I love Terry but he's a poor shooter. If you can't shoot you usually never will. That's the sad truth.


Right we don’t need another Okogie.
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Post#803 » by Neeva » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:56 am

I think the first pick will be either Agbaji or Hardy. Hardy has more upside but both have potential to be decent role players which you can’t ask for more from the 19th pick in a weak draft.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#804 » by shangrila » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:51 am

Neeva wrote:
Nick K wrote:
jpatrick wrote:
I can’t help but loving the Terry type of player. Tall, defensive, good passer, glue type guys. Players like Lonzo Ball, Jrue Holiday, Halliburton, etc, even if you don’t want them to be primary initiators, win games. In this class you have Daniels and Terry.

I’m not sure how Terry scores unless the shot really comes along. But I want him on the team. He could be a good compliment to Ant in the backcourt as a PatBev replacement if we decide to put the ball in Ants hands full time like the Celtics did with Tatum. The shot needs to fall and on volume though.

I’m not sure Terry is even there at 19.


I love Terry but he's a poor shooter. If you can't shoot you usually never will. That's the sad truth.


Right we don’t need another Okogie.

Statistically Okogie was about as sure a shooter as a prospect as you'll find. IIRC he was 38% from 3 and 82% from the line at Georgia Tech with good volume and form.

On the flip side a guy like McDaniels was 34% from 3 (-2% compared to Terry) and 76% from the line (+3% vs Terry). And yet he turned out to be the better shooter. Sometimes, stuff like that just happens.

I'm willing to buy Terry because of both the defence and absurd AST:TO ratio he posted, especially when factoring in his usage rate (which I'll admit is lower than I'd like). If he could be a PG, like a Delon Wright, then he only has to be an average shooter (think 33-34%) to be effective offensively.
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Post#805 » by LibertyPrime » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:32 am

Wrong thread :banghead:
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#806 » by minimus » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:04 am

SmokeyPaw wrote:
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moss_is_1 wrote:He's just too small for me, I don't really want TyTy either. Chandler could have success, but in today's NBA he might get targeted a lot on defense too.

He's a similar size to Beverley. From what I've seen, while maybe not on Pat's level (few are), I think he can still hold his own.


Think they're both decent prospects who likely top out as backup point guards. I like Dalen Terry somehat better as he's more versatile. He's 6'7 with a 7 foot WS. A scout was quoted in an TheAthletic article saying that he was the most competitive of the prospects they'd interviewed/worked out.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=kennedy-chandler--dalen-terry--tyty-washington


Thank you, now I want either Terry or Jalen Williams at #19.
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Post#807 » by Rookie-Mistake » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:56 am

It has been a very quiet pre draft this year..

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#808 » by minimus » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:52 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:It has been a very quiet pre draft this year...


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Post#809 » by Devilzsidewalk » Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:38 pm

Neeva wrote:I think the first pick will be either Agbaji or Hardy. Hardy has more upside but both have potential to be decent role players which you can’t ask for more from the 19th pick in a weak draft.


I feel like we kinda have those guys already in Beasley and Nowell
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Post#810 » by jscott » Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:54 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:
Neeva wrote:I think the first pick will be either Agbaji or Hardy. Hardy has more upside but both have potential to be decent role players which you can’t ask for more from the 19th pick in a weak draft.


I feel like we kinda have those guys already in Beasley and Nowell

Lots of Beasley rumors circulating so maybe they could still fill a need?
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Post#811 » by SO_MONEY » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:06 pm

Neeva wrote:I think the first pick will be either Agbaji or Hardy. Hardy has more upside but both have potential to be decent role players which you can’t ask for more from the 19th pick in a weak draft.


I would be shocked if either were on our radar unless we trade down... and still. I think there is a better chance we take David Roddy at 19 than either of those guys and I doubt we would take him at 19.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#812 » by Baseline81 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:36 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:I feel like we kinda have those guys already in Beasley and Nowell

Beasley seems to be on the trade market, and I'm rather on the fence with Nowell going forward.
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Post#813 » by Baseline81 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:53 pm

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Post#814 » by Neeva » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:54 pm

Who does Connelly want at 14, Sochan?
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#815 » by Biff Cooper » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:59 pm

Still want Jalen Duren or Mark Williams. Am intrigued by Ousmane Dieng, Jalen Williams, Tari Eason, Walker Kessler.

Am becoming ok with taking Kessler if the other guys are gone.
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Post#816 » by minimus » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:15 pm

One day guys, one day. I will be either pissed off, or excited as hell, because rooting for MIN is always black and white.
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Post#817 » by Norseman79 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:35 pm

Two predictions for tomorrow night....1. the Wolves will select AT LEAST twice in first round. 2.At least 1 starter and one future pick will be dealt.

Something I found interesting, Jalen Duren, as is, reminds me a lot of Clint Capella. Mark Williams, as is, reminds me a lot of Rudy Gobert. Dyson Daniels and Dalen Terry actually remind me a lot of Dejounte Murray. Not saying they are player comps, but saying the guys that are rumored trade targets, actually have players that are very similar in style n the draft as well. If we somehow weasel let's say Williams and Terry out of round 1, that will be a nice set up for future.
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Post#818 » by Devilzsidewalk » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:36 pm

Biff Cooper wrote:Still want Jalen Duren or Mark Williams. Am intrigued by Ousmane Dieng, Jalen Williams, Tari Eason, Walker Kessler.

Am becoming ok with taking Kessler if the other guys are gone.


It feels more likely than it did 2 weeks ago. All the talk about Capela and Gobert and now trading up makes me wonder if they're looking at Mark Williams.
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Post#819 » by Rookie-Mistake » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:06 pm

Possibly. We do need a big guerilla Centre.
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Biff Cooper wrote:Still want Jalen Duren or Mark Williams. Am intrigued by Ousmane Dieng, Jalen Williams, Tari Eason, Walker Kessler.

Am becoming ok with taking Kessler if the other guys are gone.


It feels more likely than it did 2 weeks ago. All the talk about Capela and Gobert and now trading up makes me wonder if they're looking at Mark Williams.


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Post#820 » by Biff Cooper » Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:12 pm

Rookie-Mistake wrote:Possibly. We do need a big guerilla Centre.
Devilzsidewalk wrote:
Biff Cooper wrote:Still want Jalen Duren or Mark Williams. Am intrigued by Ousmane Dieng, Jalen Williams, Tari Eason, Walker Kessler.

Am becoming ok with taking Kessler if the other guys are gone.


It feels more likely than it did 2 weeks ago. All the talk about Capela and Gobert and now trading up makes me wonder if they're looking at Mark Williams.


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One of the NBA talking heads wasn't real excited about the Wolves pairing KAT with Mark Williams - particularly in playoff series' - due to him saying KAT isn't exactly someone you can play switch coverages with, and projecting Williams as also being someone you would have difficulty playing in switch coverages. Having two guys like that is something an opposing team can take advantage of. I haven't spent enough time studying film to know whether or not this is a legit concern. It seems like Duke mainly had Williams protecting the paint on defense and rim running on offense. Williams is very athletic, fit, and his measurables are 242 pounds, 7'-2" height with a 9'-9" standing reach. Seems like someone that Finch could scheme into the defense to give the other team trouble.

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