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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#801 » by the_process » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:57 pm

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Foshan wrote:I wonder if we S&T Grimes for a guy like PJ? gets us our big, frees up the guard jam. it's a little on the expensive side...

of course someone mentioned above, 'finding the next Toppin" i think there is a good argement that we found the guard version of that guy in grimes, if we could lock him up reasonably. not sure if that means trading one of the other guards down the road a bit.


Per CBA we can't S&T a player who wasn't on our roster from the beginning of the prior season. We could S&T Yabu.


They S&T Hield last year after picking him up in a trade at the deadline.

The rule you refer to applies to FA's. You can't sign a dude off the street in February and then S&T him in July.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#802 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:58 pm

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:At this point you bring back Yabusele and let Grimes go. We didn't draft Edgecombe third overall to not play. Then again, I can see him being brought along slowly if we do bring Grimes back. I'm not the biggest Grimes fan on this forum, but I'm fine bringing him back.


I don't know what you think Nurse is going to do with a rookie :lol:


I'm going to respond with silence on this one. Let the awkward chuckle emoji linger.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#803 » by Iscull » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:59 pm

the_process wrote:
Iscull wrote:
Foshan wrote:I wonder if we S&T Grimes for a guy like PJ? gets us our big, frees up the guard jam. it's a little on the expensive side...

of course someone mentioned above, 'finding the next Toppin" i think there is a good argement that we found the guard version of that guy in grimes, if we could lock him up reasonably. not sure if that means trading one of the other guards down the road a bit.


Per CBA we can't S&T a player who wasn't on our roster from the beginning of the prior season. We could S&T Yabu.


They S&T Hield last year after picking him up in a trade at the deadline.

The rule you refer to applies to FA's. You can't sign a dude off the street in February and then S&T him in July.


Great point! I stand corrected
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#804 » by the_process » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:19 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:At this point you bring back Yabusele and let Grimes go. We didn't draft Edgecombe third overall to not play. Then again, I can see him being brought along slowly if we do bring Grimes back. I'm not the biggest Grimes fan on this forum, but I'm fine bringing him back.


I don't know what you think Nurse is going to do with a rookie :lol:


I'm going to respond with silence on this one. Let the awkward chuckle emoji linger.


The expectations need to tempered with this VJ kid.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#805 » by Stanford » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:26 pm

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I don't know what you think Nurse is going to do with a rookie :lol:


I'm going to respond with silence on this one. Let the awkward chuckle emoji linger.


The expectations need to tempered with this VJ kid.


May as well start throwing him in trade proposals now.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#806 » by the_process » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:39 pm

You guys hate Maxey proposals, I can only imagine VJ proposals!
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#807 » by Arsenal » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:59 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:At this point you bring back Yabusele and let Grimes go. We didn't draft Edgecombe third overall to not play. Then again, I can see him being brought along slowly if we do bring Grimes back. I'm not the biggest Grimes fan on this forum, but I'm fine bringing him back.


Ridiculous. Grimes is our starting SG. He's definitely staying.

If we don't have enough money for Yabu, then too bad. He's not the priority.
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Post#808 » by Skates » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:07 pm

Yabu was a fun story and if we keep him, great, but the team has one foot in the Embiid era and one foot in the post Embiid retooling. Grimes fits both nicely and we have more ability to re-sign him. Great if we can keep Yabu, but he likely played himself into a bigger contract than we can offer and good for him if he did. Grimes is a priority to re-sign.

Grimes and VJ are not a problem in the same backcourt, Maxey and McCain are the two that are not compatible long term, but need to see more of McCain and prove him healthy before we address that issue down the road.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#809 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:17 pm

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:At this point you bring back Yabusele and let Grimes go. We didn't draft Edgecombe third overall to not play. Then again, I can see him being brought along slowly if we do bring Grimes back. I'm not the biggest Grimes fan on this forum, but I'm fine bringing him back.


Ridiculous. Grimes is our starting SG. He's definitely staying.

If we don't have enough money for Yabu, then too bad. He's not the priority.


Oh...Well then who plays Power Forward? Surely not Paul George who plays about 40 games per season. Are we trying to give OKC another top 5 pick? Or was one stressful season a sweating it out and tanking, praying that our pick hits and then arguing for two consecutive months about who to draft not enough stress for you as a fan of this team? I think we definitely need a power forward. I'm all for re-signing Grimes, but we still need to address that 4 spot.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#810 » by Iscull » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:30 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:At this point you bring back Yabusele and let Grimes go. We didn't draft Edgecombe third overall to not play. Then again, I can see him being brought along slowly if we do bring Grimes back. I'm not the biggest Grimes fan on this forum, but I'm fine bringing him back.


Ridiculous. Grimes is our starting SG. He's definitely staying.

If we don't have enough money for Yabu, then too bad. He's not the priority.


Oh...Well then who plays Power Forward? Surely not Paul George who plays about 40 games per season. Are we trying to give OKC another top 5 pick? Or was one stressful season a sweating it out and tanking, praying that our pick hits and then arguing for two consecutive months about who to draft not enough stress for you as a fan of this team? I think we definitely need a power forward. I'm all for re-signing Grimes, but we still need to address that 4 spot.


+1. Grimes is a luxury at this point. I'll never forget the game we played against Milwaukee last year without Embiid. Yabu was trying to defend multiple 7 footers by himself. It was insane. At the very least, we need size just for matchups.

Baking on Embiid and a 31 year old Drummond who missed 42 games last year would be a mistake.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#811 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:38 pm

Hopefully, we address the need for another big with #35 tonight. I still can't believe Flemming fell to round 2.

I love the Edgecombe pick, but there's a lot of value in retaining Grimes on a good deal to play now. If/when VJ is good enough to bump him from the starting lineup, then we can reassess, but no need to rush him out of here now. If we have a deep playoff run, are we confident that VJ is ready for those minutes? That's not a criticism, just being realistic for a 19-year-old.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#812 » by Arsenal » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:41 pm

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Ridiculous. Grimes is our starting SG. He's definitely staying.

If we don't have enough money for Yabu, then too bad. He's not the priority.


Oh...Well then who plays Power Forward? Surely not Paul George who plays about 40 games per season. Are we trying to give OKC another top 5 pick? Or was one stressful season a sweating it out and tanking, praying that our pick hits and then arguing for two consecutive months about who to draft not enough stress for you as a fan of this team? I think we definitely need a power forward. I'm all for re-signing Grimes, but we still need to address that 4 spot.


+1. Grimes is a luxury at this point. I'll never forget the game we played against Milwaukee last year without Embiid. Yabu was trying to defend multiple 7 footers by himself. It was insane. At the very least, we need size just for matchups.

Baking on Embiid and a 31 year old Drummond who missed 42 games last year would be a mistake.


Grimes is absolutely not a luxury and is one of our best young, proven players. If nothing else he'll be a valuable asset going forward.

It would be beyond idiocy to let him walk unless he gets a massive offer, which he won't.

The gaping hole at PF is a totally separate issue.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#813 » by PhillyFan11 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:54 pm

Arsenal wrote:
Iscull wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Oh...Well then who plays Power Forward? Surely not Paul George who plays about 40 games per season. Are we trying to give OKC another top 5 pick? Or was one stressful season a sweating it out and tanking, praying that our pick hits and then arguing for two consecutive months about who to draft not enough stress for you as a fan of this team? I think we definitely need a power forward. I'm all for re-signing Grimes, but we still need to address that 4 spot.


+1. Grimes is a luxury at this point. I'll never forget the game we played against Milwaukee last year without Embiid. Yabu was trying to defend multiple 7 footers by himself. It was insane. At the very least, we need size just for matchups.

Baking on Embiid and a 31 year old Drummond who missed 42 games last year would be a mistake.


Grimes is absolutely not a luxury and is one of our best young, proven players. If nothing else he'll be a valuable asset going forward.

It would be beyond idiocy to let him walk unless he gets a massive offer, which he won't.

The gaping hole at PF is a totally separate issue.


Do we really know what Grimes is when there is a full team of serviceable NBA players on the court? The answer is no.

I like Grimes, but getting carried away because he scored in a tanking situation is crazy. He would be a nice bench guard to have on the roster, but he is indeed a luxury when you have 3 guards with a much higher ceiling to play.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#814 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:00 pm

I think a 4 guard rotation with our young guys is totally feasible. Just can’t play the old guys anymore. No Gordon minutes, no Lowry minutes, any guard over 30 on the roster is purely a mentor & injury fill-in.

Maxey/McCain
Grimes/VJ
Edwards/Council
George/Oubre
Embiid/Bona

Our guards & wings are solid. Frontcourt is a huge question mark because of Embiid and we lack a true PF. Hopefully we get somebody at 35 that can grab some minutes at the 4.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#815 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:09 pm

We need Fleming badly
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#816 » by the_process » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:28 pm

Skates wrote:Yabu was a fun story and if we keep him, great, but the team has one foot in the Embiid era and one foot in the post Embiid retooling. Grimes fits both nicely and we have more ability to re-sign him. Great if we can keep Yabu, but he likely played himself into a bigger contract than we can offer and good for him if he did. Grimes is a priority to re-sign.

Grimes and VJ are not a problem in the same backcourt, Maxey and McCain are the two that are not compatible long term, but need to see more of McCain and prove him healthy before we address that issue down the road.


Having watched this team for the last two decades, let's make sure VJ can play first. I love how everyone is willing to hand wave the red flags because shiny new toy.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#817 » by mjkvol » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:56 pm

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Dallas has a ton of bigs, and could use a guard.


Maybe a deal centered around a McCain for PJ or Smith swap?


PJ and Lively for McCain, Oubre, Gordon, and Drummond works on salary.


Dallas isn't giving up Lively. Gafford is the odd man out there, I would think.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#818 » by the_process » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:16 pm

mjkvol wrote:
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Maybe a deal centered around a McCain for PJ or Smith swap?


PJ and Lively for McCain, Oubre, Gordon, and Drummond works on salary.


Dallas isn't giving up Lively. Gafford is the odd man out there, I would think.


They just extended Gafford on a team friendly deal, though.

But I suppose they could still trade him.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#819 » by mjkvol » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:23 pm

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PJ and Lively for McCain, Oubre, Gordon, and Drummond works on salary.


Dallas isn't giving up Lively. Gafford is the odd man out there, I would think.


They just extended Gafford on a team friendly deal, though.

But I suppose they could still trade him.


I got the feeling they did that to more easily move him. They need to move one of them, and it's hard to imagine it would be Lively.

But then again, Nico Harrison ........................
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#820 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:26 pm

Shams is now saying Giannis will decide on his future in July after free agency settles out.

He keeps pushing this narrative, and is either going to look very smart or very foolish.
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Maxey/McCain/Gordon
Grimes/Edgecombe/Walker
Oubre/Edwards/Council
George/()/()
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome

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