Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread IV (Must read Post 1)

[Pointgod]

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It's going to be really bad without a miracle. Just so messed up

Well this is what you should expect when you start testing people. The only reason the numbers are so low right now is that testing hasn’t caught up to where it should be.

[BladeDaywalker]

Also, if you are wondering how seriously a large segment of the population is taking the threat, you are going to be dismayed at what people in these links are doing.

It is going to take ten of thousands of Americans dead before the vast majority wise up and take this seriously. Unfortunately, by that time, it will be too late.

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[LKN]

These companies are going to be destroyed by lawsuits if there's a major outbreak in one of their facilities

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/business/coronavirus-ups-fedex-xpo-workers.html

[chrismikayla]

It is my understanding that even young people with pre existing conditions can have severe illness. Elderly and young people with existing conditions are highest risk. Low risk does not mean zero.

[bondom34]

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Too many ignorant and selfish people. We'll be in this crisis for a long time.

Not only is this stupid, these guys are pretty bad at making layups.


Every day I get a good read in this thread, but every day I'm more convinced we're screwed. At this point it's already pretty much done. Hope all you guys here stay safe, wish everyone would but man seeing stuff like this it looks bad.

[azcatz11]

Everyone in PHX is practicing social distancing...the roads have literally been empty

[Richfield]

Also, if you are wondering how seriously a large segment of the population is taking the threat, you are going to be dismayed at what people in these links are doing.

It is going to take ten of thousands of Americans dead

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Just on my own experience, I'm betting a lot of those folks in Arizona parks aren't actually Americans. Not that it even matters, just saying. Lots of European/German tourists saturate American National parks.

Of course that's not safe either, for anybody, your point still stands. Just that only so much can be taken from a photo or video.

[bondom34]

These companies are going to be destroyed by lawsuits if there's a major outbreak in one of their facilities

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/business/coronavirus-ups-fedex-xpo-workers.html

I just went for groceries tonight and was surprised at the amount of things still open. Went to 2 grocery stores. Drove by an open Dollar General, Ollie's Discount, and multiple restaurants. Places just don't want to close even if it's endangering people.

Heck:

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[BladeDaywalker]

Anyone who is willing to dismiss the threat of the virus simply because they believe that it only affect older people or that it won't be as dangerous to their health is being intentionally ignorant.

There are millions of Americans between the ages of 20-50 who suffered from Diabetes, Heart diseases, Cancer, and a bunch of medical conditions that leave their immune systems compromised.

So, if you have a medical condition or know someone who has a medical condition that could weaken your immune system, you and they have an obligation to stay home and not gather in large crowd because your health will be at risk.

Furthermore, the sheer number of people who are going to be hospitalized is going to overwhelm the healthcare system.

As a result, a young person who is healthy at the moment but all of a sudden got a medical emergency is not going to be able to get treatments since the doctors and nurses are going to be too busy dealing with all of the patients that have shown up in critical conditions.

[Ayt]

This is a major problem and this thing is only getting started.

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[bwgood77]

These companies are going to be destroyed by lawsuits if there's a major outbreak in one of their facilities

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/business/coronavirus-ups-fedex-xpo-workers.html

I just went for groceries tonight and was surprised at the amount of things still open. Went to 2 grocery stores. Drove by an open Dollar General, Ollie's Discount, and multiple restaurants. Places just don't want to close even if it's endangering people.

I think most businesses like that are open. Any dollar stores, grocery or drug stores, and restaurants (at least most of them). Then even other businesses like vets, pet stores, auto repair, etc. I think most businesses where you wouldn't have a huge crowd at them like gyms, restaurants (for dining in), movie theaters, etc, are likely still open.

Hobby Lobby or many other retailers don't make too much sense to be open though...at all. But I guess the positive thing is people are still getting paid and not laid off. I can't imagine too many people are shopping in them.

[bwgood77]

Anyone who is willing to dismiss the threat of the virus simply because they believe that it only affect older people or that it won't be as dangerous to their health is being intentionally ignorant.

There are millions of Americans between the ages of 20-50 who suffered from Diabetes, Heart diseases, Cancer, and a bunch of medical conditions that leave their immune systems compromised.

So, if you have a medical condition or know someone who has a medical condition that could weaken your immune system, you and they have an obligation to stay home and not gather in large crowd because your health will be at risk.

Furthermore, the sheer number of people who are going to be hospitalized is going to overwhelm the healthcare system.

As a result, a young person who is healthy at the moment but all of a sudden got a medical emergency is not going to be able to get treatments since the doctors and nurses are going to be too busy dealing with all of the patients that have shown up in critical conditions.

Most everyone in that age bracket I know is taking it seriously. Though my dad in his 70s is acting as business as usual and is still out and about, regardless of what my brother and I tell him. He also has high blood pressure, diabetes and a stint in his heart.

[bondom34]

These companies are going to be destroyed by lawsuits if there's a major outbreak in one of their facilities

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/business/coronavirus-ups-fedex-xpo-workers.html

I just went for groceries tonight and was surprised at the amount of things still open. Went to 2 grocery stores. Drove by an open Dollar General, Ollie's Discount, and multiple restaurants. Places just don't want to close even if it's endangering people.

I think most businesses like that are open. Any dollar stores, grocery or drug stores, and restaurants (at least most of them). Then even other businesses like vets, pet stores, auto repair, etc. I think most businesses where you wouldn't have a huge crowd at them like gyms, restaurants (for dining in), movie theaters, etc, are likely still open.

Hobby Lobby or many other retailers don't make too much sense to be open though...at all. But I guess the positive thing is people are still getting paid and not laid off. I can't imagine too many people are shopping in them.

Dine in at this point kind of is weird to me, our governor ordered all non life sustaining businesses closed 2 days ago for PA. Thats why they surprised me.

[Jordan-esque]

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Keep it up responsible citizens!

Although I feel sorry for Florida and Tennessee from this example.

[bwgood77]

I just went for groceries tonight and was surprised at the amount of things still open. Went to 2 grocery stores. Drove by an open Dollar General, Ollie's Discount, and multiple restaurants. Places just don't want to close even if it's endangering people.

I think most businesses like that are open. Any dollar stores, grocery or drug stores, and restaurants (at least most of them). Then even other businesses like vets, pet stores, auto repair, etc. I think most businesses where you wouldn't have a huge crowd at them like gyms, restaurants (for dining in), movie theaters, etc, are likely still open.

Hobby Lobby or many other retailers don't make too much sense to be open though...at all. But I guess the positive thing is people are still getting paid and not laid off. I can't imagine too many people are shopping in them.

Dine in at this point kind of is weird to me, our governor ordered all non life sustaining businesses closed 2 days ago for PA. Thats why they surprised me.

That last sentence in my first paragraph doesn't read very well. I was trying to say businesses with big crowds at them like gyms, restaurants (the dining in part), movie theaters, etc, are closed but others (those in places where you wouldn't have crowds like those examples would be open.. I tried to preface with "where you wouldn't have huge crowds like" ____________ and end with "would still be open". I should have added to closed ones stuff like shopping malls, retail stores, etc.

[Zenzibar]

Hey I don't want to get sappy with all that's going on. But beyond debating basketball, RealGM has been my community and my goto above even CNN.
So just want to say thanks.

[bwgood77]

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Keep it up responsible citizens!

Although I feel sorry for Florida and Tennessee from this example.

I posted the links to the Kinsa maps the other day. Florida definitely not looking good there.



https://healthweather.us/

A lot of places looking very bad in the observed illness map below.

[bondom34]

I think most businesses like that are open. Any dollar stores, grocery or drug stores, and restaurants (at least most of them). Then even other businesses like vets, pet stores, auto repair, etc. I think most businesses where you wouldn't have a huge crowd at them like gyms, restaurants (for dining in), movie theaters, etc, are likely still open.

Hobby Lobby or many other retailers don't make too much sense to be open though...at all. But I guess the positive thing is people are still getting paid and not laid off. I can't imagine too many people are shopping in them.

Dine in at this point kind of is weird to me, our governor ordered all non life sustaining businesses closed 2 days ago for PA. Thats why they surprised me.

That last sentence in my first paragraph doesn't read very well. I was trying to say businesses with big crowds at them like gyms, restaurants (the dining in part), movie theaters, etc, are closed but others (those in places where you wouldn't have crowds like those examples would be open.. I tried to preface with "where you wouldn't have huge crowds like" ____________ and end with "would still be open". I should have added to closed ones stuff like shopping malls, retail stores, etc.

Ah that makes more sense. I didn't think they'd be allowed unless they're saying they're life sustaining somehow, felt strange given how much is closed and felt bad they were even open given the state's order. Even grocery stores were pretty empty.

[AdagioPace]

well, US, welcome to the top 3 club.....increasingly looking like a proper olympic diving ranking

[LKN]

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Keep it up responsible citizens!

Although I feel sorry for Florida and Tennessee from this example.

While I agree with you that they are doing the right thing this guy is off his rocker on the first example. There's not nearly enough testing to know those results - and it hasn't even really been long enough to tell