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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#821 » by the_process » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:20 pm

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the_process wrote:I keep coming back to Haliburton would be real nice next to Maxey in the backcourt.

Simmons and Bagley to POR
McCollum and Covington to SAC
Haliburton and Hield to PHI


I would love this, but I think with the way both teams are acting it just ends up being a Philly Portland deal.


Then we're back to hoping Minnesota caves on Edwards. Can't accept CJ as the return for Ben, even with RoCo coming back.

Glenn and Daryl sound sold on Maxey btw. But he's going to end up as a smaller defensively average at best attacking SG, so they need a bigger defensive PG who can space to pair with him. I'd be willing to add to Ben for Haliburton.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#822 » by Negrodamus » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:21 pm

Definitely trade Ben to the Cavs for Sexton, Rubio, Osman, and endless picks/swaps. Ben will serve as the Trojan Horse for us as they build around his unsustainable style and lose fantastically.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#823 » by Sportfan73 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:24 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Definitely trade Ben to the Cavs for Sexton, Rubio, Osman, and endless picks/swaps. Ben will serve as the Trojan Horse for us as they build around his unsustainable style and lose fantastically.

Need to hurry up because the second they ink an extension with sexton he can’t be moved
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#824 » by the_process » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:34 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Definitely trade Ben to the Cavs for Sexton, Rubio, Osman, and endless picks/swaps. Ben will serve as the Trojan Horse for us as they build around his unsustainable style and lose fantastically.


The Sixers already have their version of Sexton in Maxey. Don't need another.

If CLE wants to give up Garland, however, Love can be the salary filler with one pick that becomes unprotected at some point and I would do that. Love me some Garland too.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#825 » by Sportfan73 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:38 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:Definitely trade Ben to the Cavs for Sexton, Rubio, Osman, and endless picks/swaps. Ben will serve as the Trojan Horse for us as they build around his unsustainable style and lose fantastically.


The Sixers already have their version of Sexton in Maxey. Don't need another.

If CLE wants to give up Garland, however, Love can be the salary filler with one pick that becomes unprotected at some point and I would do that. Love me some Garland too.

Don’t think we’re getting garland or Haliburton. Teams just don’t have a reason to part with those guys right now or any time for the foreseeable future
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#826 » by Negrodamus » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:40 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:Definitely trade Ben to the Cavs for Sexton, Rubio, Osman, and endless picks/swaps. Ben will serve as the Trojan Horse for us as they build around his unsustainable style and lose fantastically.


The Sixers already have their version of Sexton in Maxey. Don't need another.

If CLE wants to give up Garland, however, Love can be the salary filler with one pick that becomes unprotected at some point and I would do that. Love me some Garland too.


I hope Maxey can become the scorer of Sexton, but he's a bit of a distance away from .347 FTr that Sexton had this past year. And I understand Maxey was only a rookie last year, but Sexton had a .575 FTr at Alabama to Maxey's .343 FTr. So Sexton is naturally a FT getter and it's clear Maxey is still a work in progress on that front.

At the end of the day, we're going to sit on Ben until the trade deadline, probably.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#827 » by Sportfan73 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:49 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:Definitely trade Ben to the Cavs for Sexton, Rubio, Osman, and endless picks/swaps. Ben will serve as the Trojan Horse for us as they build around his unsustainable style and lose fantastically.


The Sixers already have their version of Sexton in Maxey. Don't need another.

If CLE wants to give up Garland, however, Love can be the salary filler with one pick that becomes unprotected at some point and I would do that. Love me some Garland too.


I hope Maxey can become the scorer of Sexton, but he's a bit of a distance away from .347 FTr that Sexton had this past year. And I understand Maxey was only a rookie last year, but Sexton had a .575 FTr at Alabama to Maxey's .343 FTr. So Sexton is naturally a FT getter and it's clear Maxey is still a work in progress on that front.

At the end of the day, we're going to sit on Ben until the trade deadline, probably.

Yeah saying we already have a sexton in Maxey is a huge reach
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#828 » by Stanford » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:22 pm

The more I hear about the Sexton character stuff, the more interested I am. It would be nice to have a (two with Maxey!) point guard who works hard and cares.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#829 » by 76ciology » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:27 pm

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#830 » by 76ciology » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:35 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:Definitely trade Ben to the Cavs for Sexton, Rubio, Osman, and endless picks/swaps. Ben will serve as the Trojan Horse for us as they build around his unsustainable style and lose fantastically.


The Sixers already have their version of Sexton in Maxey. Don't need another.

If CLE wants to give up Garland, however, Love can be the salary filler with one pick that becomes unprotected at some point and I would do that. Love me some Garland too.

Don’t think we’re getting garland or Haliburton. Teams just don’t have a reason to part with those guys right now or any time for the foreseeable future


Hope we have settle for Sexton instead

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#831 » by 76ciology » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:36 pm

Stanford wrote:The more I hear about the Sexton character stuff, the more interested I am. It would be nice to have a (two with Maxey!) point guard who works hard and cares.


Maxey and Sexton relentless dribble drive would be the dream

We even can start Green or Thybulle. Then have Sexton play the Manu role. Microwave scorer then insert him to the 5 man unit to finish the game
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#832 » by Negrodamus » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:48 pm

The last 10 games, Collin was averaging 24 ppg (8 FTA per game) and 6 apg. I'm not sure what the circumstances were, but his distribution went up a decent amount.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#833 » by XtremeDunkz » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:18 pm

The problem with Sexton is you immediately have to sign him to a max extension. So you don't even get the cap relief to find another player later on.

So you better be 100% sure he can be the guy to help put this over the top.

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#834 » by 76ciology » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:21 pm

Sexton would be on top of my list if there’s a player we’d most likely get in return for Ben. He just checks all the boxes for me in terms of a guy who i think Morey and Doc would like to have.

I’d even say that if we ever end up with Edwards, I expect Morey to trade Edwards for Sexton.

After Sexton, the next one on my list would probably be MPJ.

Then after that would be a meh player with a treasure chest of picks attached to him, similar to what Nets gave up for Harden but less picks and less of a player.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#835 » by 76ciology » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:32 pm

In case it ends up in a gridlock where we dont trade Ben at all.

The two guys I’d like us to trade for that wouldn't cost us Ben, it would be Immanuel Quickly and Rozier.

Knicks have a couple of guards in Kemba and Rose so they maybe open in trading Quickly. It hurts, but it may cost me my favorite sixer personality right now in Thybulle. I also wouldnt mind trading for if the price is right is Terry Rozier. And he may cost us Paul Reed and fillers.

Other guys I’m looking at are Jordan Poole and Cam Thomas, but I doubt that they’re ready to contribute so im more skeptic that we’ll go after them.

If we opt to take a breather, I’d trade Tobi for Hield or Barnes and try to get a pick and a pick swap from the Kings or to the Cavs for Kevin Love and a pick and a pick swap.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#836 » by Negrodamus » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:35 pm

If we do the Sexton move, we need size immediately. I still think we need to make a move for Kyle Anderson, but I'm not sure how willing the Grizz are to move him. We'd still have limited ability in distribution from our PGs, so adding a guy like him would help keep the ball moving in the offense.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#837 » by 76ciology » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:38 pm

Negrodamus wrote:If we do the Sexton move, we need size immediately. I still think we need to make a move for Kyle Anderson, but I'm not sure how willing the Grizz are to move him. We'd still have limited ability in distribution from our PGs, so adding a guy like him would help keep the ball moving in the offense.


Im hoping we can go for Jerami Grant. I think he can be acquired with Milton as the main trade chip. Milton would be a good backcourt duo for Cunningham.

If not, Kyle Anderson would be OK
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#838 » by Stanford » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:42 pm

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#839 » by Negrodamus » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:45 pm

76ciology wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If we do the Sexton move, we need size immediately. I still think we need to make a move for Kyle Anderson, but I'm not sure how willing the Grizz are to move him. We'd still have limited ability in distribution from our PGs, so adding a guy like him would help keep the ball moving in the offense.


Im hoping we can go for Jerami Grant. I think he can be acquired with Milton as the main trade chip. Milton would be a good backcourt duo for Cunningham.

If not, Kyle Anderson would be OK


I think Grant's asking price will be way higher than Shake. He was MIP last year with 20+ ppg with a reputation as a defender. Shake died on the vine and killed his value. We'd have to package multiple firsts for that to happen.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#840 » by 76ciology » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:54 pm

Stanford wrote:I think you're dreaming, 76ciology


It’s called negotiation. You start from a position of strength.
Then you compromise and meet halfway.

Im surprised they didnt teach you that in stanford.
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