OKC Thunder 2022-23 Regular Season Discussion

[slick_watts]

The problem with baz is bb Iq. This also seems to be Manns problem. I think both have to go. I had high hopes for mannn but he now seems timid. Maybe he just needs to go down to the g league for a while. I just don't understand why Wiggins doesn't get more playing time.

Mann seems to be wild player and I don't think he can learn to facilitate plays. Presti will probably need to find new back-up pg in couple years.

I don't think he was ever considered a back up PG. We have Giddey and J Dub to run the bench units. Poku is even much more capable. I don't fault the pick of Mann. I see his appeal however he doesn't fit "the new age thunder" Schlecht is always talking about. Tre was likely drafted hoping his floor would be a Lou Williams type bench player with some passable defense. For now, Joe and Wiggins need to be getting Mann's minutes.

hoping his -floor- is lou williams? sam presti must have been drunk if that was the case.

[Woerzboerg]

The problem with baz is bb Iq. This also seems to be Manns problem. I think both have to go. I had high hopes for mannn but he now seems timid. Maybe he just needs to go down to the g league for a while. I just don't understand why Wiggins doesn't get more playing time.

Mann seems to be wild player and I don't think he can learn to facilitate plays. Presti will probably need to find new back-up pg in couple years.

Sure SGA and Giddey will run the Team all the time, but I think we could use a veteran PG who can shoot and defend as soon as we want to get to the playoffs. Like Derek Fisher did in the Russ-KD-Era, but with a smaller role.

[Patches Perry]

I reeeeallly enjoyed the game last night, not just because they won, and not just because they racked up a historical number of assists, but because so many of those dimes were just beautiful and they play a nice brand of basketball. OKC is a couple wins away from the 5th seed and a couple losses away from being 13th/3rd worst team in the conference so who knows where we land, but in the moment I'm just really glad to have a team I look forward to watching every game.

[ThunderBolt]

Tyler Parker seems like a nice dude but he’s a tough listen for me. Just spit it out, man.

[ThunderBolt]

Mann seems to be wild player and I don't think he can learn to facilitate plays. Presti will probably need to find new back-up pg in couple years.

I don't think he was ever considered a back up PG. We have Giddey and J Dub to run the bench units. Poku is even much more capable. I don't fault the pick of Mann. I see his appeal however he doesn't fit "the new age thunder" Schlecht is always talking about. Tre was likely drafted hoping his floor would be a Lou Williams type bench player with some passable defense. For now, Joe and Wiggins need to be getting Mann's minutes.

hoping his -floor- is lou williams? sam presti must have been drunk if that was the case.

Yes, hoping. Not expecting.

[BlazersBroncos]

I like using the TP MLE or BAE on Aaron Holiday - pesky defender, can hit a 3, decent at not turning the ball over, enough PG brains to run the offense but also can play off ball (Basically 3PT line camping for kickouts), not used to big PT so likely to accept 15mpg type role.

Sign him, trade Dieng + 23 OKC FRP + 24 HOU FPR + ? and TPE for OG on draft night -

G - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander / Aaron Holiday / Isaiah Joe / Tre Mann
G - Lou Dort / Jalen Williams / Isaiah Joe / Aaron Wiggins
F - Josh Giddey / Kenrich Williams / Aaron Wiggins
F - OG Anunoby / Aleksej Pokusevski / Kenrich Williams
C - Chet Holmgren / Jeremiah Robinson-Earl / Mike Muscala

[slick_watts]

Tyler Parker seems like a nice dude but he’s a tough listen for me. Just spit it out, man.

i never liked his writing much, always felt the same way. just get to the point, man. you're not william s. burroughs, the pleasure isn't in the journey.

[Dadouv47]

I like using the TP MLE or BAE on Aaron Holiday - pesky defender, can hit a 3, decent at not turning the ball over, enough PG brains to run the offense but also can play off ball (Basically 3PT line camping for kickouts), not used to big PT so likely to accept 15mpg type role.

Sign him, trade Dieng + 23 OKC FRP + 24 HOU FPR + ? and TPE for OG on draft night -

G - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander / Aaron Holiday / Isaiah Joe / Tre Mann
G - Lou Dort / Jalen Williams / Isaiah Joe / Aaron Wiggins
F - Josh Giddey / Kenrich Williams / Aaron Wiggins
F - OG Anunoby / Aleksej Pokusevski / Kenrich Williams
C - Chet Holmgren / Jeremiah Robinson-Earl / Mike Muscala

I like OG but I don't get the hype. Feels to me that the packages I see in potential OG trades are way too much, even more considering the fact that he will want big money. You are gonna have to pay him 30+ millions/year for a guy that I don't think is a 3rd best player on a contender.

Rumors during the 2022 draft at Portland throwing pick 7 + small asset to get OG made sense considering their willingness to improve fast with Lillard and he had two years left on his contract...now only one season under very good contract and you gotta throw a lottery pick, a 50% chance of a top 5-8 pick in 2024 and a young prospect in Dieng that is still talented (even if I'm low on him) is a lot.

[Big nick]

That is alot for og I wouldn't do it. I think dieng will pan out he's very young.

[ThunderBolt]

That is alot for og I wouldn't do it. I think dieng will pan out he's very young.

Yea I’m probably being irrational but I really like Dieng. I don’t want to say the typical overvalue-young-guy comments of “only part of a deal for a star” but I want to give him a couple of years of development. We might not be getting many lottery picks moving forward. He’s got the tools to be good.

[Dadouv47]

Dieng back with the blue today btw. Hope he can play stay healthy and play the last 25-30 games with the Thunder.

[bbms]

funny that giddey's best reps seems to be his pure forward and mid/high post reps, am i wrong?

just get this kid to watch some old larry bird tapes

[QPR]

I did notice they started running more Giddey high post stuff, which I love as his ability to find cutters when he's facing away is almost Jokic-like.

That pass to SGA after the offensive rebound (not high post but similar mechanics) was mesmerising.

[kdthunderup]

Giddey suddenly realising he is bigger and stronger than most guys has completely turned his season around. He has been super aggressive getting to the rim and creating space. He is only going to get stronger and bigger over the next couple of season, hopefully he will be able to draw more fouls as well. His defensive rebounding has been outstanding and the reason why we have been able to have success with our small-ball lineups.

His shooting off-ball has improved a lot since last season but he still struggles on pull-ups. There are a few times where he could benefit from a pull-up jumper. He will often still opt to drive into the paint with three defenders there rather than take the mid-range pull up. Also when he has the ball with only a few seconds left on the shot-clock he will still try and force a pass or throw up an awkward shot trying to drive to the rim.

If he can work on his pull-up mechanics with Chip then that will open up his game even further.

[Dadouv47]

Read on Twitter

We only have 3 Williams, would be nice adding one more.

[jake_swivel]

We only have 3 Williams, would be nice adding one more.

As if this team isn’t fun enough already!

[Old Man Game]

I must have finally gotten all the rooting for tanking out of my system because I found myself really mad tonight that we lost. Also, I had to listen to the Sacramento broadcast and I got to tell you, I thought I'd heard some homers before, but I heard them say tonight that as the number three team in the standings in the West, Sabonis ought to be getting MVP talk.

[slick_watts]

the more this team plays the more i get the feeling that lu dort is the 'jeff green' of this thunder iteration.

[Jstock12]

I must have finally gotten all the rooting for tanking out of my system because I found myself really mad tonight that we lost. Also, I had to listen to the Sacramento broadcast and I got to tell you, I thought I'd heard some homers before, but I heard them say tonight that as the number three team in the standings in the West, Sabonis ought to be getting MVP talk.

I think Jokic is the clear MVP frontrunner and any case for another player would be simply dumb (no, Tatum isn't even close to Jokic in terms of MVP). But Sabonis should at least be in the top 5-6 convo for sure. Domas has been phenomenal this year. Much better than in Indiana. He's got like one of the highest on-off differentials in the whole league (maybe even second only to Jokic). Averaging 19/13/7 on 67% TS%. And he could honestly easily average 25ppg without a significant drop in efficiency if he wanted. But he just embraced that point-center mentality. And it's been infectious to the whole Kings roster. Everyone's sharing and moving the ball knowing full well that they'll get their turn as well. That turned them into the best offense in the league.

[Dadouv47]

I must have finally gotten all the rooting for tanking out of my system because I found myself really mad tonight that we lost. Also, I had to listen to the Sacramento broadcast and I got to tell you, I thought I'd heard some homers before, but I heard them say tonight that as the number three team in the standings in the West, Sabonis ought to be getting MVP talk.

Same but the Kings deserves some credit...they play hard and smart. Their defensive adjusment in the second half made the difference.

Muscala and Kenrich were trash last night and I still don't understand why we drafted a poor JRE's version in Jaylin. I like the kid but I don't get it.