Official Draft Thread 2015-16

[Duke4life831]

Or. We trade it for Boogie, his head spontaneously combusts, the lottery balls bounce Sac's way in June,they land Simmons and the result is every member of this board going postal.

I'd take Boogie over anyone in this draft in a heartbeat

[Stadium5]

Or. We trade it for Boogie, his head spontaneously combusts, the lottery balls bounce Sac's way in June,they land Simmons and the result is every member of this board going postal.

I'd take Boogie over anyone in this draft in a heartbeat

Easy to say now.

I can easily see Simmons becoming the superior player. If we get the 1 pick Ainge better keep it

[Duke4life831]

Or. We trade it for Boogie, his head spontaneously combusts, the lottery balls bounce Sac's way in June,they land Simmons and the result is every member of this board going postal.

I'd take Boogie over anyone in this draft in a heartbeat

Easy to say now.

I can easily see Simmons becoming the superior player. If we get the 1 pick Ainge better keep it

He will keep it. Again I just don't see superstar potential in Simmons. I think he is for sure the #1 pick right now and I think he will make a few all star games. Just don't see him as a franchise player. Boogie on the other hand, I think with the right support a d right coach (which I think Boston has both) can be that franchise changing player.

[Stadium5]

I'd take Boogie over anyone in this draft in a heartbeat

Easy to say now.

I can easily see Simmons becoming the superior player. If we get the 1 pick Ainge better keep it

He will keep it. Again I just don't see superstar potential in Simmons. I think he is for sure the #1 pick right now and I think he will make a few all star games. Just don't see him as a franchise player. Boogie on the other hand, I think with the right support a d right coach (which I think Boston has both) can be that franchise changing player.

I think Simmons is such a unique player and just looks so silky smooth with the eye test that once he imporves his shooting and develops an NBA body that he'll be a force in the NBA, especially when you compare him to his peers currently.

I am also a Cousins fan, and would love Cousins to get to Boston. But he does have attitude issues (which i think can be contained given the right winning environment), so I don't know if he can be considered a franchise player at this point until he proves it. Which hes obviously extremely capable of doing. But the Kings with their dumb ass owner isnt going to be the place for him to be

[Edug27]

the lottery balls bounce Sac's way in June,they land Simmons and the result is every member of this board going postal.

I think that potential risk right there is wayyyy too high for Danny to even touch that draft pick at the moment. It's not the kind of move a GM like Danny would do. If BK goes on a 6 game win streak or something crazy, then we have a slightly different story.

[Duke4life831]

Easy to say now.

I can easily see Simmons becoming the superior player. If we get the 1 pick Ainge better keep it

He will keep it. Again I just don't see superstar potential in Simmons. I think he is for sure the #1 pick right now and I think he will make a few all star games. Just don't see him as a franchise player. Boogie on the other hand, I think with the right support a d right coach (which I think Boston has both) can be that franchise changing player.

I think Simmons is such a unique player and just looks so silky smooth with the eye test that once he imporves his shooting and develops an NBA body that he'll be a force in the NBA, especially when you compare him to his peers currently.

I am also a Cousins fan, and would love Cousins to get to Boston. But he does have attitude issues (which i think can be contained given the right winning environment), so I don't know if he can be considered a franchise player at this point until he proves it. Which hes obviously extremely capable of doing. But the Kings with their dumb ass owner isnt going to be the place for him to be

Again I don't want to come off as bashing Simmons, I'm a big fan of his. His jumper needs more than just some work. I don't think it's a for sure thing he is ever going to scare defenses with his jumper. I don't like the form at all. Now with that said, the dude is a really good rebounder and will be good day 1 with that and will be money in transition from day 1. I think Cousins is a much safer bet when it comes to which one can be a franchise changer. And if I could give a top 3 best landing spots for cousins in the league Boston would be in it. You guys have some players that play with a ton of fire, you're very young and talented and in my opinion have the 2nd best coach in the league. I think you guys are 1 guy away from being a legit contender, Boogie can get you there right away, Simmons can get you there if or when he develops a jumper

[Pacino62]

Or. We trade it for Boogie, his head spontaneously combusts, the lottery balls bounce Sac's way in June,they land Simmons and the result is every member of this board going postal.

I'd take Boogie over anyone in this draft in a heartbeat

Yes. A Boogie with his head on straight. I agree 100%. However, there's no guarantee of him coming back to this planet. This isn't like KG. That's a move (gamble) that could come back to haunt Danny for years.

[Duke4life831]

Or. We trade it for Boogie, his head spontaneously combusts, the lottery balls bounce Sac's way in June,they land Simmons and the result is every member of this board going postal.

I'd take Boogie over anyone in this draft in a heartbeat

Yes. A Boogie with his head on straight. I agree 100%. However, there's no guarantee of him coming back to this planet. This isn't like KG. That's a move (gamble) that could come back to haunt Danny for years.

Agreed with evrything. The reason I think Cousins would have his head on right is Brad Stevens and the players in Boston especially Isaiah Thomas. Boogie loved playing with him in Sac. Also I think being on a winning team would help drastically. I think Boston is probably the perfect fit for Boogie. But Ya it's no doubt a gamble

[Stadium5]

I'd take Boogie over anyone in this draft in a heartbeat

Yes. A Boogie with his head on straight. I agree 100%. However, there's no guarantee of him coming back to this planet. This isn't like KG. That's a move (gamble) that could come back to haunt Danny for years.

Agreed with evrything. The reason I think Cousins would have his head on right is Brad Stevens and the players in Boston especially Isaiah Thomas. Boogie loved playing with him in Sac. Also I think being on a winning team would help drastically. I think Boston is probably the perfect fit for Boogie. But Ya it's no doubt a gamble

It may be a gamble, but its the safer bet than staying the course we're on now

[Duke4life831]

Yes. A Boogie with his head on straight. I agree 100%. However, there's no guarantee of him coming back to this planet. This isn't like KG. That's a move (gamble) that could come back to haunt Danny for years.

Agreed with evrything. The reason I think Cousins would have his head on right is Brad Stevens and the players in Boston especially Isaiah Thomas. Boogie loved playing with him in Sac. Also I think being on a winning team would help drastically. I think Boston is probably the perfect fit for Boogie. But Ya it's no doubt a gamble

It may be a gamble, but its the safer bet than staying the course we're on now

As not a Boston fan looking in. So I don't watch everyone of your games but I catch a good amount since you guys got Stevens. After the championship against Duke I have always wished he would be the guy to take over for K. So from the outside looking in, I don't see why staying the course you guys are on would be a bad thing. Yes you guys are 1 superstar away from being contenders. But with all the assets you guys seem to get every year, I don't see it being to long till you guys get that superstar. Either it is from trading assets or get lucky in the draft. Either than my Warriors (I'm biased when I say this lol) I think you guys have the brightest future

[Edug27]

I'd take Boogie over anyone in this draft in a heartbeat

Yes. A Boogie with his head on straight. I agree 100%. However, there's no guarantee of him coming back to this planet. This isn't like KG. That's a move (gamble) that could come back to haunt Danny for years.

Agreed with evrything. The reason I think Cousins would have his head on right is Brad Stevens and the players in Boston especially Isaiah Thomas. Boogie loved playing with him in Sac. Also I think being on a winning team would help drastically. I think Boston is probably the perfect fit for Boogie. But Ya it's no doubt a gamble

The unknown spot of the BK pick is what makes it the biggest gamble. If Boston gets the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft back in 2007, then KG trade probably never happens and Danny gets to build around KD. Getting the 5th spot made it a no brainer. Danny would be thrilled to move the 5th pick this summer to Sac for Cousins.

[Stadium5]

Agreed with evrything. The reason I think Cousins would have his head on right is Brad Stevens and the players in Boston especially Isaiah Thomas. Boogie loved playing with him in Sac. Also I think being on a winning team would help drastically. I think Boston is probably the perfect fit for Boogie. But Ya it's no doubt a gamble

It may be a gamble, but its the safer bet than staying the course we're on now

As not a Boston fan looking in. So I don't watch everyone of your games but I catch a good amount since you guys got Stevens. After the championship against Duke I have always wished he would be the guy to take over for K. So from the outside looking in, I don't see why staying the course you guys are on would be a bad thing. Yes you guys are 1 superstar away from being contenders. But with all the assets you guys seem to get every year, I don't see it being to long till you guys get that superstar. Either it is from trading assets or get lucky in the draft. Either than my Warriors (I'm biased when I say this lol) I think you guys have the brightest future

Yea you have quite a fun team to watch out there in Oakland lol. Good for you guys, its been a long time coming

Stevens gets way too much praise though. He's above average no doubt, and hes a fantastic college coach...but as far as developing young players Im not happy with what I see. He chooses to play the scrubs and vets that wont help us get to the promise land nor get any better. So we're basically treading water since he wasnt on board for the tank last year either. Limiting us to just the Nets picks to really have a chance at grabbing a superstar. All of our 2nd rounders and late 1sts are overrated. Sure we could hit on one or two of them, but the averages are against us. Free agency here has never been kind to our cold climate and 2am nightlife.

I like the looks of the younger guys we have in Smart, Crowder, Young, Mickey...but even with an additonal superstar its still not enough at this point until one or two of them really breakout in this league.

[Duke4life831]

Yes. A Boogie with his head on straight. I agree 100%. However, there's no guarantee of him coming back to this planet. This isn't like KG. That's a move (gamble) that could come back to haunt Danny for years.

Agreed with evrything. The reason I think Cousins would have his head on right is Brad Stevens and the players in Boston especially Isaiah Thomas. Boogie loved playing with him in Sac. Also I think being on a winning team would help drastically. I think Boston is probably the perfect fit for Boogie. But Ya it's no doubt a gamble

The unknown spot of the BK pick is what makes it the biggest gamble. If Boston gets the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft back in 2007, then KG trade probably never happens and Danny gets to build around KD. Getting the 5th spot made it a no brainer. Danny would be thrilled to move the 5th pick this summer to Sac for Cousins.

Im saying this trade would go down if you guys get the #1 or #2 pick, since I only see 2 guys in this draft that have legit potential. But Sac could probably only take the call if you guys have the first pick. So if you guys have say the 5th pick, of course it's a no brained to trade for Boogie. Just don't know if that trade would be available anymore. But Ainge has pulled off some surprising moves before

[Duke4life831]

It may be a gamble, but its the safer bet than staying the course we're on now

As not a Boston fan looking in. So I don't watch everyone of your games but I catch a good amount since you guys got Stevens. After the championship against Duke I have always wished he would be the guy to take over for K. So from the outside looking in, I don't see why staying the course you guys are on would be a bad thing. Yes you guys are 1 superstar away from being contenders. But with all the assets you guys seem to get every year, I don't see it being to long till you guys get that superstar. Either it is from trading assets or get lucky in the draft. Either than my Warriors (I'm biased when I say this lol) I think you guys have the brightest future

Yea you have quite a fun team to watch out there in Oakland lol. Good for you guys, its been a long time coming

Stevens gets way too much praise though. He's above average no doubt, and hes a fantastic college coach...but as far as developing young players Im not happy with what I see. He chooses to play the scrubs and vets that wont help us get to the promise land nor get any better. So we're basically treading water since he wasnt on board for the tank last year either. Limiting us to just the Nets picks to really have a chance at grabbing a superstar. All of our 2nd rounders and late 1sts are overrated. Sure we could hit on one or two of them, but the averages are against us. Free agency here has never been kind to our cold climate and 2am nightlife.

I like the looks of the younger guys we have in Smart, Crowder, Young, Mickey...but even with an additonal superstar its still not enough at this point until one or two of them really breakout in this league.

Again you definitely know the team more than me. But from what I see Stevens plays the older vets cause the dude wants to win now. Stevens doesn't care if the other team has more talent, he thinks he can find a way to win with the talent he has. And most the time the dude does it or comes close. I think you guys are stacked with really good rotation players just 1 big time player away from taking you guys over the edge. I have liked all your draft picks except for Rozier, had no clue what your front office saw in that one.

[ddb]

Yes. A Boogie with his head on straight. I agree 100%. However, there's no guarantee of him coming back to this planet. This isn't like KG. That's a move (gamble) that could come back to haunt Danny for years.

Agreed with evrything. The reason I think Cousins would have his head on right is Brad Stevens and the players in Boston especially Isaiah Thomas. Boogie loved playing with him in Sac. Also I think being on a winning team would help drastically. I think Boston is probably the perfect fit for Boogie. But Ya it's no doubt a gamble

The unknown spot of the BK pick is what makes it the biggest gamble. If Boston gets the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft back in 2007, then KG trade probably never happens and Danny gets to build around KD. Getting the 5th spot made it a no brainer. Danny would be thrilled to move the 5th pick this summer to Sac for Cousins.

Danny didn't trade the #5 pick for KG, though. He traded the #5 pick for Ray Allen. That's the big difference here. If we keep the pick and end up picking #4 or #5 then we're looking at best bet acquiring a 32 year Melo type of move.

[Stadium5]

As not a Boston fan looking in. So I don't watch everyone of your games but I catch a good amount since you guys got Stevens. After the championship against Duke I have always wished he would be the guy to take over for K. So from the outside looking in, I don't see why staying the course you guys are on would be a bad thing. Yes you guys are 1 superstar away from being contenders. But with all the assets you guys seem to get every year, I don't see it being to long till you guys get that superstar. Either it is from trading assets or get lucky in the draft. Either than my Warriors (I'm biased when I say this lol) I think you guys have the brightest future

Yea you have quite a fun team to watch out there in Oakland lol. Good for you guys, its been a long time coming

Stevens gets way too much praise though. He's above average no doubt, and hes a fantastic college coach...but as far as developing young players Im not happy with what I see. He chooses to play the scrubs and vets that wont help us get to the promise land nor get any better. So we're basically treading water since he wasnt on board for the tank last year either. Limiting us to just the Nets picks to really have a chance at grabbing a superstar. All of our 2nd rounders and late 1sts are overrated. Sure we could hit on one or two of them, but the averages are against us. Free agency here has never been kind to our cold climate and 2am nightlife.

I like the looks of the younger guys we have in Smart, Crowder, Young, Mickey...but even with an additonal superstar its still not enough at this point until one or two of them really breakout in this league.

Again you definitely know the team more than me. But from what I see Stevens plays the older vets cause the dude wants to win now. Stevens doesn't care if the other team has more talent, he thinks he can find a way to win with the talent he has. And most the time the dude does it or comes close. I think you guys are stacked with really good rotation players just 1 big time player away from taking you guys over the edge. I have liked all your draft picks except for Rozier, had no clue what your front office saw in that one.

Im definitely in the minority on this board in terms of this team's future, but the thing you say about Stevens is exactly what I have issue with for this team the past two years. Its noble that he means well and tries to win with whatever he has, but ts not the 1 game series format that college has. The NBA wins with talent...as you know...there -100% chance we'd come close to taking your Warriors in a best of 7 series. He should have tanked, acquired talent in a couple of "free pass" years, and went for gold as LBJ starts slowing down and maybe if your Warriors somehow become mortal. Gunning for the playoffs and making it with this team is detrimental in the sense that it significantly lowers our odds at having a chance at getting some top talent. Getting beat down by the Cavs for 4 games does absolutely nothing, no matter what the homers say. That seems to be the biggest disagreement on this board though

[ddb]

Yea you have quite a fun team to watch out there in Oakland lol. Good for you guys, its been a long time coming

Stevens gets way too much praise though. He's above average no doubt, and hes a fantastic college coach...but as far as developing young players Im not happy with what I see. He chooses to play the scrubs and vets that wont help us get to the promise land nor get any better. So we're basically treading water since he wasnt on board for the tank last year either. Limiting us to just the Nets picks to really have a chance at grabbing a superstar. All of our 2nd rounders and late 1sts are overrated. Sure we could hit on one or two of them, but the averages are against us. Free agency here has never been kind to our cold climate and 2am nightlife.

I like the looks of the younger guys we have in Smart, Crowder, Young, Mickey...but even with an additonal superstar its still not enough at this point until one or two of them really breakout in this league.

Again you definitely know the team more than me. But from what I see Stevens plays the older vets cause the dude wants to win now. Stevens doesn't care if the other team has more talent, he thinks he can find a way to win with the talent he has. And most the time the dude does it or comes close. I think you guys are stacked with really good rotation players just 1 big time player away from taking you guys over the edge. I have liked all your draft picks except for Rozier, had no clue what your front office saw in that one.

Im definitely in the minority on this board in terms of this team's future, but the thing you say about Stevens is exactly what I have issue with for this team the past two years. Its noble that he means well and tries to win with whatever he has, but ts not the 1 game series format that college has. The NBA wins with talent...as you know...there -100% chance we'd come close to taking your Warriors in a best of 7 series. He should have tanked, acquired talent in a couple of "free pass" years, and went for gold as LBJ starts slowing down and maybe if your Warriors somehow become mortal. Gunning for the playoffs and making it with this team is detrimental in the sense that it significantly lowers our odds at having a chance at getting some top talent. Getting beat down by the Cavs for 4 games does absolutely nothing, no matter what the homers say. That seems to be the biggest disagreement on this board though

how's that tank going for Philly? The Celtics are not going to Tank. Nobody wants to play for a garbage organization. Danny is doing a great, great job rebuilding. This is a good young team with cap space, roster flexibility, and tons of picks. Teams, executives, fans and players around the league respect the Celtics and how they're approaching this.

[Edug27]

Agreed with evrything. The reason I think Cousins would have his head on right is Brad Stevens and the players in Boston especially Isaiah Thomas. Boogie loved playing with him in Sac. Also I think being on a winning team would help drastically. I think Boston is probably the perfect fit for Boogie. But Ya it's no doubt a gamble

The unknown spot of the BK pick is what makes it the biggest gamble. If Boston gets the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft back in 2007, then KG trade probably never happens and Danny gets to build around KD. Getting the 5th spot made it a no brainer. Danny would be thrilled to move the 5th pick this summer to Sac for Cousins.

Danny didn't trade the #5 pick for KG, though. He traded the #5 pick for Ray Allen. That's the big difference here. If we keep the pick and end up picking #4 or #5 then we're looking at best bet acquiring a 32 year Melo type of move.

Didn't say he did. I said if we ended up with the chance to draft KD, then the KG trade doesnt happen... Since the Ray trade helped make the KG trade possible

[Stadium5]

Again you definitely know the team more than me. But from what I see Stevens plays the older vets cause the dude wants to win now. Stevens doesn't care if the other team has more talent, he thinks he can find a way to win with the talent he has. And most the time the dude does it or comes close. I think you guys are stacked with really good rotation players just 1 big time player away from taking you guys over the edge. I have liked all your draft picks except for Rozier, had no clue what your front office saw in that one.

Im definitely in the minority on this board in terms of this team's future, but the thing you say about Stevens is exactly what I have issue with for this team the past two years. Its noble that he means well and tries to win with whatever he has, but ts not the 1 game series format that college has. The NBA wins with talent...as you know...there -100% chance we'd come close to taking your Warriors in a best of 7 series. He should have tanked, acquired talent in a couple of "free pass" years, and went for gold as LBJ starts slowing down and maybe if your Warriors somehow become mortal. Gunning for the playoffs and making it with this team is detrimental in the sense that it significantly lowers our odds at having a chance at getting some top talent. Getting beat down by the Cavs for 4 games does absolutely nothing, no matter what the homers say. That seems to be the biggest disagreement on this board though

how's that tank going for Philly? The Celtics are not going to Tank. Nobody wants to play for a garbage organization. Danny is doing a great, great job rebuilding. This is a good young team with cap space, roster flexibility, and tons of picks. Teams, executives, fans and players around the league respect the Celtics and how they're approaching this.

Shocker...jumping right the the philly side of the spectrum

Let me know if the below sentence shows up blank since most of this board loves to ignore it

The Celtics could have retained all their players and still developed the young ones while soft tanking for a top pick

Tank is working out well for Minny. Their future is lightyears ahead of ours at the moment, and looks like they'll be able to add to it even more this year. Cap space means nothing if the team doesn't have any good star running mates for the superstars you want to sign. Most of our picks arent/wont be top lottery picks. Respect is when the other teams, execs, and fans dont want to play you in the playoffs out of fear that our team will knock them out. We don't have the kind of respect that counts yet.

And along with garbage organizations..nobody is jumping at the chance to play for a mediocre one either

[Andrew McCeltic]

Just to give some perspective, if the season ended today we'd pick 19th or 20th in the draft, with the same record as the Pacers (I don't know who won/is winning the season series.)

The 15-18 Utah Jazz (with Exum, Favors, Gobert and Hayward in the fold) would pick 15th.

The Magic, .5 a game behind us in the standings, would pick 14th and have a shot at Simmons.

The Knicks, 3.5 games behind us, would pick 11th.

Same maddening bull as last year- half a game is currently the difference between the 20th pick and the 14th/lotto-chances.

So Boy Scout Brad and the Try-Hard Tots could very well, again, be the difference between Rozier and Payne/Turner/Winslow. The Magic played with a bad coach last year and it got them Hezonja, the injured Hornets skimmed the lotto and got Kaminsky, the pack-it-in Heat got Winslow in the bargain. Integrity, in this case, is self-sabotage.

Some 'soft tank' trades (Turner, Sullinger, maybe even Bradley) could be the half game difference between pick 20 and pick 14. Worth keeping in mind.