Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric

[Von Bismarck]

Dario's drives to the rim has been huge for us this season. It doesn't look good, but he bulldozes his way to the paint so effectively.

I don't even remember how many times have I said that Saric would be a perennial All-Star if it wasn't for his lack of athleticism.

[Kolkmania]

Dario's drives to the rim has been huge for us this season. It doesn't look good, but he bulldozes his way to the paint so effectively.

I don't even remember how many times have I said that Saric would be a perennial All-Star if it wasn't for his lack of athleticism.

Well I'm not saying he's a perennial All-Star, but he has far exceeded our (or at least my) expectations coming into the season. Him hitting three point shots is crucial since it makes him a complementary piece in our starting lineup. If he can continue this trend, then I agree that there's a lot more upside in him.

[Von Bismarck]

Dario's drives to the rim has been huge for us this season. It doesn't look good, but he bulldozes his way to the paint so effectively.

I don't even remember how many times have I said that Saric would be a perennial All-Star if it wasn't for his lack of athleticism.

Well I'm not saying he's a perennial All-Star, but he has far exceeded our (or at least my) expectations coming into the season. Him hitting three point shots is crucial since it makes him a complementary piece in our starting lineup. If he can continue this trend, then I agree that there's a lot more upside in him.

Well, I never said that you said

How about we trade you Elfrid for Dario

[ziggy77]

Yeah, it's so unfortunate for him and the whole league i would say that he is not athletic and doesn't have longer reach. Just one of these things like speed, jump or longer wingspan would probably get him the all star someday.

We are playing the ifs game but it is fun to dream . His drives would be so much more effective if he is faster and his finishing and defence would be much more better with longer reach and jump.

But still if he keeps developing his shot, who knows? Someday maybe, if sixers are contenders or on some other team with more touches maybe...

[Ericb5]

It is hard to say how good someone is going to get when they are actively improving month by month.

We talk about ceilings and such, but that is an abstract concept. He is improving RIGHT now so it is hard to say how good he will be when he is done improving.

I think his shooting ability is real though. I want him to get better at getting to the free throw line. He gets so little respect from referees right now, and he could force the issue by initiating the contact more.

He is starting to try to do that.

He has become at least a neutral defender, and that is all he needs to do. Just don’t be a minus defensively and he will continue to justify big minutes even as we become a lot better as a team.


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[JojoSlimbiid]

As a big Saric supporter even I'm a bit surprised by how well him and Simmons have been working together. Every once in awhile Simmons will throw him a lob and it's like "cmon Ben" but they have real good chemistry on the court which is a surprise.

[Von Bismarck]

As a big Saric supporter even I'm a bit surprised by how well him and Simmons have been working together. Every once in awhile Simmons will throw him a lob and it's like "cmon Ben" but they have real good chemistry on the court which is a surprise.

Well, Simmons and Saric are your best passers who are constantly together on the court. Dario averages what, around 2.7 APG, and I also think that will go up to 4 APG once Simmons develops proper jumpshot.

[rzzzzz]

Dario averages what, around 2.7 APG, and I also think that will go up to 4 APG once Simmons develops proper jumpshot.

maybe more as consistent outside shooting should open up the paint for more economical feeds to the big guy.

[Ericb5]

Two factors that make Saric and Simmons able to share minutes that many people doubted coming into the season are Simmons’ ability to guard point guards, and Saric’s ability to shoot the 3.

As long as those two things continue I think that Saric can start at the 4.


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[sixerswillrule]

Two factors that make Saric and Simmons able to share minutes that many people doubted coming into the season are Simmons’ ability to guard point guards, and Saric’s ability to shoot the 3.

As long as those two things continue I think that Saric can start at the 4.


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I like what Dario has been doing lately but still think I'd prefer Dario being the 6th man, or at the very least not having another PF in the rotation so that Ben can cover PFs whenever Dario goes to the bench. Our defense would be even greater in lineups of Embiid, Simmons, and three wings/guards who can shut down the perimeter.

[Negrodamus]

Two factors that make Saric and Simmons able to share minutes that many people doubted coming into the season are Simmons’ ability to guard point guards, and Saric’s ability to shoot the 3.

As long as those two things continue I think that Saric can start at the 4.


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Also, they understand how to move in space, especially Saric.

[Ericb5]

Two factors that make Saric and Simmons able to share minutes that many people doubted coming into the season are Simmons’ ability to guard point guards, and Saric’s ability to shoot the 3.

As long as those two things continue I think that Saric can start at the 4.


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I like what Dario has been doing lately but still think I'd prefer Dario being the 6th man, or at the very least not having another PF in the rotation so that Ben can cover PFs whenever Dario goes to the bench. Our defense would be even greater in lineups of Embiid, Simmons, and three wings/guards who can shut down the perimeter.

I agree. I would prefer Saric to be the 6th man and for Fultz to earn the starting job next to Redick.

Saric is viable for starting though if he continues to play as well as he has recently.


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[kriss73]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22210351/zach-lowe-10-things-like-including-all-star-snubs-nba

Point 6: The Hoooooooooomieeeeee!


Philly's starting lineup, outscoring opponents by a ridiculous 18 points per 100 possessions, wouldn't work without Saric's jack-of-all-trades game.

[bobbeaver]

Oh and he is *almost* at a neutral RPM as of the last time they updated (remember when that first came out about a month into the season he was like the worst in the league) and if he keeps playing like this it wouldn't shock me if he was a top 20 PF by the end of the year.

That was the biggest criticizm by the Saric doubters. His D and his 3. After the 3 was fixed they started to doubt his ability to be in the NBA (and im not kidding) on the case of his D. Now he is a neutral on D. That means he started playing good D to catch up. I always said he played better D than all the negative hype said he did. But i honestly doubted he would fix it to this point that fast. He is a sophomore in the league. This development to this stage took less than a year and a half! That is insane! Who learns D so fast from being very bad at it? All this DURING a season. Why i never understood the hate for him like he was trash and would never improve. Who was so short in the NBA.
I belive that what he has shown is real. it has gone on long enough so it is steady. He doesnt think about it. And he will improve further. I have never seen him go back in his development after a certain point.
He still has alot to improve on. But even i am impressed to his development. I never dreamed he would go from %0.311 3 pt to .395 for the current season (that is with the bad start) from 3. Personaly i thought he would be around .36-37.
I think his finishing needs to improve, drives need to improve further, back to the basket and ofc D even further as much as he can. And i think he can do it. Even with all the handicaps.
Oh P.S. who ever said he is slow, he isnt he is actually fast for a PF. He has worked on his first step and that part he is not super fast on, but not bad either. But when he is on the move he is very fast and he is a bulldozer.

[bobbeaver]

With a week left in January

15.4 PPG
7 RPG
2.6 APG
45% FG
43% 3Pt
98.6% FT (Two months in a row over 90% )

Team has been +12.7 with him on the court this month, not counting tonight when he was a game high +31

His shooting improvements are real. His shot, and his free throw both look good off his hand every time.


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This is Dario’s team now.


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Its Embiids and Simmonses, but he is the cornerstone of the team now. He is always there and steady doing his thing filling up the stats in non flashy ways (except assists lol). The stars drop 3ple double or +30 but are bad another night, but Saric does his thing in a steady reliable manner. Always around a double double and second facilitator. And he loves crunch time. you need a guy like that on your team.

[TTP]

Oh and he is *almost* at a neutral RPM as of the last time they updated (remember when that first came out about a month into the season he was like the worst in the league) and if he keeps playing like this it wouldn't shock me if he was a top 20 PF by the end of the year.

That was the biggest criticizm by the Saric doubters. His D and his 3. After the 3 was fixed they started to doubt his ability to be in the NBA (and im not kidding) on the case of his D. Now he is a neutral on D. That means he started playing good D to catch up. I always said he played better D than all the negative hype said he did. But i honestly doubted he would fix it to this point that fast. He is a sophomore in the league. This development to this stage took less than a year and a half! That is insane! Who learns D so fast from being very bad at it? All this DURING a season. Why i never understood the hate for him like he was trash and would never improve. Who was so short in the NBA.
I belive that what he has shown is real. it has gone on long enough so it is steady. He doesnt think about it. And he will improve further. I have never seen him go back in his development after a certain point.
He still has alot to improve on. But even i am impressed to his development. I never dreamed he would go from %0.311 3 pt to .395 for the current season (that is with the bad start) from 3. Personaly i thought he would be around .36-37.
I think his finishing needs to improve, drives need to improve further, back to the basket and ofc D even further as much as he can. And i think he can do it. Even with all the handicaps.
Oh P.S. who ever said he is slow, he isnt he is actually fast for a PF. He has worked on his first step and that part he is not super fast on, but not bad either. But when he is on the move he is very fast and he is a bulldozer.

His 3 point shooting, his defense, and his decision making were all legitimate concerns coming into the season. It's great to see that he's shooting a lot better and I hope it continues, though I don't think he's going to shoot 37%+ going forward.

However, he's not a neutral on defense now. He's not a total liability like I feared he might be, but he's considerably below average for his position.

If he continues to shoot well, he'll be a better fit than I suspected, though I still think we'll be better off with him coming off the bench.

[Sixerscan]

The arc on his shot is miles better than it was at the beginning of the season. At long he keeps those mechanics up I expect him to have good results there.

They updated RPM. He's positive now and he's up to 35th among power forwards. Top 20 is looking good.

[bobbeaver]

Oh and he is *almost* at a neutral RPM as of the last time they updated (remember when that first came out about a month into the season he was like the worst in the league) and if he keeps playing like this it wouldn't shock me if he was a top 20 PF by the end of the year.

That was the biggest criticizm by the Saric doubters. His D and his 3. After the 3 was fixed they started to doubt his ability to be in the NBA (and im not kidding) on the case of his D. Now he is a neutral on D. That means he started playing good D to catch up. I always said he played better D than all the negative hype said he did. But i honestly doubted he would fix it to this point that fast. He is a sophomore in the league. This development to this stage took less than a year and a half! That is insane! Who learns D so fast from being very bad at it? All this DURING a season. Why i never understood the hate for him like he was trash and would never improve. Who was so short in the NBA.
I belive that what he has shown is real. it has gone on long enough so it is steady. He doesnt think about it. And he will improve further. I have never seen him go back in his development after a certain point.
He still has alot to improve on. But even i am impressed to his development. I never dreamed he would go from %0.311 3 pt to .395 for the current season (that is with the bad start) from 3. Personaly i thought he would be around .36-37.
I think his finishing needs to improve, drives need to improve further, back to the basket and ofc D even further as much as he can. And i think he can do it. Even with all the handicaps.
Oh P.S. who ever said he is slow, he isnt he is actually fast for a PF. He has worked on his first step and that part he is not super fast on, but not bad either. But when he is on the move he is very fast and he is a bulldozer.

His 3 point shooting, his defense, and his decision making were all legitimate concerns coming into the season. It's great to see that he's shooting a lot better and I hope it continues, though I don't think he's going to shoot 37%+ going forward.

However, he's not a neutral on defense now. He's not a total liability like I feared he might be, but he's considerably below average for his position.

If he continues to shoot well, he'll be a better fit than I suspected, though I still think we'll be better off with him coming off the bench.

You dont because you had a bet with someone that he wasnt going to shoot .38 % i got your number lol
He isnt considerably below average on D. You are just being stubborn now. Him rocco and simmons and anderson line were actually praized and considered main reasons for winning plenty of games because they can switch on anybody effectively by experts (Celtics for example). So saying he is considerably below average is same as when u said he was the worst of the worst while in fact him being the best when degending isos for players over 30 iso plays for example. You can argue being below avrage now if u want but dont overdo it man. Especially when stats paint a certain picture.

[Winejk]

Earlier this year I thought it might be wise to cash in on Dario and trade him before his value started diminishing despite really liking Dario. I thought his playmaking skills were redundant with Simmons and TJ playing a lot of minutes. Didn't think he was a good fit with Embiid. Boy was I wrong.

Part of what I liked about Dario is he's just a player. He does what is needed to get the job done. He comes up with winning plays. His transformation from the beginning of the season to now has been great. He really is a chameleon, giving the team whatever it needs. Embiid is out...no problem run Dario in the post. Need an extra pass...no problem Dario makes them. Need a rebound...Dario is right there. Dario is an important part of this team. He fits with Ben and Embiid. He's a keeper.

[Ericb5]

That was the biggest criticizm by the Saric doubters. His D and his 3. After the 3 was fixed they started to doubt his ability to be in the NBA (and im not kidding) on the case of his D. Now he is a neutral on D. That means he started playing good D to catch up. I always said he played better D than all the negative hype said he did. But i honestly doubted he would fix it to this point that fast. He is a sophomore in the league. This development to this stage took less than a year and a half! That is insane! Who learns D so fast from being very bad at it? All this DURING a season. Why i never understood the hate for him like he was trash and would never improve. Who was so short in the NBA.
I belive that what he has shown is real. it has gone on long enough so it is steady. He doesnt think about it. And he will improve further. I have never seen him go back in his development after a certain point.
He still has alot to improve on. But even i am impressed to his development. I never dreamed he would go from %0.311 3 pt to .395 for the current season (that is with the bad start) from 3. Personaly i thought he would be around .36-37.
I think his finishing needs to improve, drives need to improve further, back to the basket and ofc D even further as much as he can. And i think he can do it. Even with all the handicaps.
Oh P.S. who ever said he is slow, he isnt he is actually fast for a PF. He has worked on his first step and that part he is not super fast on, but not bad either. But when he is on the move he is very fast and he is a bulldozer.

His 3 point shooting, his defense, and his decision making were all legitimate concerns coming into the season. It's great to see that he's shooting a lot better and I hope it continues, though I don't think he's going to shoot 37%+ going forward.

However, he's not a neutral on defense now. He's not a total liability like I feared he might be, but he's considerably below average for his position.

If he continues to shoot well, he'll be a better fit than I suspected, though I still think we'll be better off with him coming off the bench.

You dont because you had a bet with someone that he wasnt going to shoot .38 % i got your number lol
He isnt considerably below average on D. You are just being stubborn now. Him rocco and simmons and anderson line were actually praized and considered main reasons for winning plenty of games because they can switch on anybody effectively by experts (Celtics for example). So saying he is considerably below average is same as when u said he was the worst of the worst while in fact him being the best when degending isos for players over 30 iso plays for example. You can argue being below avrage now if u want but dont overdo it man. Especially when stats paint a certain picture.

The actual bet is at 37% and it was with me. I’m feeling pretty good right now, but he is on a hot streak at the moment. A cold streak will happen at some point, and he could drop a lot when that happens.


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