League Circles wrote:dice wrote:League Circles wrote:A gym is a place where people are in close proximity breathing heavily. End of story.
saying it's end of story doesn't make it so. the REALITY is that you can quite easily go to the gym when it's not super busy and never be within 6 feet of another human being. particularly when there's, you know, a pandemic unfolding. i did it just last evening. as the importance of the crisis has advanced, so has the spacing at the gym. funny that
No need to do endless pushups and situps, just a few sets of that or calisthenics etc.
which, again, is certainly "adequate." no arguments there. but it's your own standard
You said it seems unnecessary, and then cite the positive benefits of gyms which is laughable seeing as how those benefits are easily achieved for free by everyone in alternative ways
did you not even read my last post? why are you responding by saying the exact same thing you said in your first post, while completely ignoring my points about weight lifting and, again, the REALITY that people simply aren't going to do other forms of exercise as much at home?
again, why do people pay for gym memberships when they can get the same benefits for free? it's truly not difficult to understand
Does it seem unnecessary to you that schools are closing?
no, because schools are not gyms. book learning does not help your BODY, which is what viruses attack. and students are more necessarily in close proximity. also, you can't freaking exercise online
It's a difficult time. I guess if you can't get to the gym you may have to see your current flawless physique transform into a grotesque immunocompromised blob.
wtf are you talking about? i have said absolutely nothing about physical appearance. you've been making **** up this entire conversation
Schools have MANDATORY physical exercise.
again, what are you even talking about? you're introducing something completely new to the conversation. schools closing down has absolutely NOTHING to do with PE classes. you attempted to compare schools shutting down to gyms shutting down, which is a terrible comparison, and now you're quite obviously trying to pretend that you were talking about...PE classes? now THAT is laughable
Being at home does not cause a person to exert themselves physically less than at a gym. It's all in your mind.
i never said that you CAN'T exert yourself as much at home. you yet again completely invented a conversation that never happened. what i DID say is that people WILL excercise less at home. there's a reason you still haven't answered my question.
because it exposes the absurdity of your position. but i'll ask it again: WHY. DO. PEOPLE. PAY. FOR. GYM. MEMBERSHIPS?!
If you insist on dying on the elitist hill of needing your gymy gym workout to bump your immune response to the perfect level, let's see some immune PER or immune RPM stats that show what exact levels of exertion are ideal for immune maximization. Because surely you know that exercise can also weaken your immune system as well right?
good lord you're off the rails. again making statements that do not relate to anything i said. never said anything remotely like a personal need to perfectly optimize my immune system. but please, go ahead and don't exercise and tell yourself that maybe your immune system might actually improve. or that gyms are somehow elitist (one of THE most ridiculous things i've heard in a long time). THOSE statement are eminently worthy of an "SMH" response
again, people are going to get less exercise when their gyms are shut down. their immune systems will decine marginally in the meantime. that's simply not debatable. what's certainly debatable is whether it's in the broader public interest to shut down gyms right now. whether protecting mouthbreathing morons from themselves by not responsibly using gym equipment is of greater value than reducing exercise levels
Just go with the flow man. **** is shutting down.
i am going with the flow. again, wtf are you talking about? i merely suggested that it didn't seem NECESSARY to shut down gyms and may actually be counter-productive. i wasn't pitching a fit. i was merely opening it up to discussion. then you come in with your juvenile 'SMH' nonsense, as if i've suggested something preposterous
It's intellectually reasonable to wonder if it's better to open or close gyms.
then why have you been unwilling from the start to engage on that level?
It's not reasonable to use that theoretical ambivalence to suggest that maybe gyms shouldn't be closed.
huh? theoretical ambivalence?
Because overwhelming evidence simply doesn't exist that they should be open, they should obviously be closed.
where is this overwhelming evidence? something tells me you're making **** up again
if the evidence was overwhelming (hint: there IS no real evidence, because we're dealing with a new situation), gyms would have shut down IMMEDIATELY. they didn't. they have and ARE sussing it out day by day. some are still open
And FWIW, I'd guess most employees will still get paid.
not if they're hourly. hourly employees usually don't even have their schedules set more than a week or two in advance
which brings up the next obvious point in this: a gym's decision on whether to close is quite obviously about more than the public health. there are business considerations. employees, attendance, hand sanitizer stocks, etc.
