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Jeff Wilson RB, San Francisco 49ers

The Athletic's Matt Barrows believes 49ers RB Jeff Wilson could be inactive when Tevin Coleman (ankle) returns.

Coleman might be active Week 5 when the 49ers come off this week's bye, and then coach Kyle Shanahan will have to decide if he wants to keep four running backs active on gamedays. Shanahan believes Coleman can handle Wilson's goal-line job and Coleman was the No. 1 back before his injury, so Wilson very well could be on the outside looking in. If Coleman's return is relayed, Wilson would be a touchdown-dependent RB3/4.

Source: The Athletic

Sep 24, 2019, 7:58 PM ET

I still don't get why Kyle/Lynch continue to spend big dollars on 3rd/4th tier caliber RB's. There isn't much reason to pay guys like McKinnon and Coleman when Shanny has long proven to mine solid production out of about any RB that suits up for him.

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I still don't want him as DC.

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I still don't want him as DC.

Same here. He sucks. If a team drafts DL 7th, 3rd, 2nd & 17th, trades for a pro-bowl DE, signs a pro-bowl CB, spends record money on a MLB, spends a 2nd rounder on a SS and a first rounder on a FS, you're not exactly a genius to put together a top-5 defense.

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I still don't want him as DC.

You don't want Breida on the field 50% of the game, I'm beginning to think you just want Tua.

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Jeff Wilson RB, San Francisco 49ers

The Athletic's Matt Barrows believes 49ers RB Jeff Wilson could be inactive when Tevin Coleman (ankle) returns.

Coleman might be active Week 5 when the 49ers come off this week's bye, and then coach Kyle Shanahan will have to decide if he wants to keep four running backs active on gamedays. Shanahan believes Coleman can handle Wilson's goal-line job and Coleman was the No. 1 back before his injury, so Wilson very well could be on the outside looking in. If Coleman's return is relayed, Wilson would be a touchdown-dependent RB3/4.

Source: The Athletic

Sep 24, 2019, 7:58 PM ET

I still don't get why Kyle/Lynch continue to spend big dollars on 3rd/4th tier caliber RB's. There isn't much reason to pay guys like McKinnon and Coleman when Shanny has long proven to mine solid production out of about any RB that suits up for him.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/tevin-coleman-16797/

Dude doesn't make a lot plus he was a guy who knows Shanahan's offense and will be an asset. But I agree we could just draft a guy in the 6th round of sign an UDFA and be just fine more than likely.

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Protecting Number Ten and Not Playing Like Number Two: Examining Justin Skules First Start as a 49er

https://www.the49ershub.com/single-post/2019/09/24/Protecting-Number-Ten-and-Not-Playing-Like-Number-Two-Examining-Justin-Skules-First-Start-as-a-49er

What an awful article, they barely talk about Skule. I was expecting some highlights and actually examining his play based off the headline.

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Jeff Wilson RB, San Francisco 49ers

The Athletic's Matt Barrows believes 49ers RB Jeff Wilson could be inactive when Tevin Coleman (ankle) returns.

Coleman might be active Week 5 when the 49ers come off this week's bye, and then coach Kyle Shanahan will have to decide if he wants to keep four running backs active on gamedays. Shanahan believes Coleman can handle Wilson's goal-line job and Coleman was the No. 1 back before his injury, so Wilson very well could be on the outside looking in. If Coleman's return is relayed, Wilson would be a touchdown-dependent RB3/4.

Source: The Athletic

Sep 24, 2019, 7:58 PM ET

I still don't get why Kyle/Lynch continue to spend big dollars on 3rd/4th tier caliber RB's. There isn't much reason to pay guys like McKinnon and Coleman when Shanny has long proven to mine solid production out of about any RB that suits up for him.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/tevin-coleman-16797/

Dude doesn't make a lot plus he was a guy who knows Shanahan's offense and will be an asset. But I agree we could just draft a guy in the 6th round of sign an UDFA and be just fine more than likely.

It's all relative to the position. He makes a lot for a RB.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cash/running-back/

I don't think he's worth it based on what I've seen to date. We'll see, but I have serious concerns about him as a runner. He's very upright, doesn't have great vision or feel for the game, and doesn't hit the hole with authority.

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I still don't want him as DC.

You don't want Breida on the field 50% of the game, I'm beginning to think you just want Tua.

As of September 25th, it's unavoidable that he'll be a main cog in the backfield and it's fine in certain respects if he's on the field for 50% of the snaps this year.

I still have concern that it's not incredibly smart to rely on him much more than that if you're worried about a 16 game schedule. Some of it is founded and some of it is pessimistic projection on my part. If I'm wrong about any part of him for this year, great. I have been before.

He'll be a RFA next year so maybe this next idea is something that should only be discussed at a later date. But again, as of September 25th, 2019, I am leaning against the idea of committing to him long-term if you're telling me he's going to command Tevin Coleman money - $4.25M/year (top 15 RB money).

I am incredibly brash, arrogant, and picky about RBs and what goes in to constructing an entire stable of backs. I'm not much less picky on RBs as I am over the QB position and CBs. I don't bend a lot on that position. I like what I like, I support what I support, and I am extremely confident in my ability to spot talent at that spot at a much better clip than most people I've come across on a football discussion level. At the same time, I'm not completely against giving a guy a healthy amount of $$$ if it's a special situation.

Understand that's part of what goes into my stance on not being the biggest advocate for Breida. Specifically Breida as a $4M/year back.

So, that leaves me to another question/proposition for people. As of September 25th, 2019, who sees themselves being an advocate for giving Breida $4M/year as it stands right now? If yes, how high are you willing to go? How many years? Or is there anyone out there thinking he'll be had for considerably less than that? Mostert gets $2.9M/year - primarily because when he signed that deal that's what top special teams players in the league were going for so it's a little different but I'm giving people an idea if you think I'm nuts thinking contract extension talks don't start somewhere around $4M/year.

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Okay I can see the contractual aspect of it, but if you're determining who gives the Niners the best shot to score TDs, it's Breida.


Do you know why we haven't cut McKinnon yet? Give him what he's due for this year and cut your loses. I feel as if Shanny doesn't want Breida shining too much, because he's obviously the one behind outbidding the Jets for him. He wants McKinnon to play as soon as he can to prove the signing was worth it.

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I still don't want him as DC.

You don't want Breida on the field 50% of the game, I'm beginning to think you just want Tua.

As of September 25th, it's unavoidable that he'll be a main cog in the backfield and it's fine in certain respects if he's on the field for 50% of the snaps this year.

I still have concern that it's not incredibly smart to rely on him much more than that if you're worried about a 16 game schedule. Some of it is founded and some of it is pessimistic projection on my part. If I'm wrong about any part of him for this year, great. I have been before.

He'll be a RFA next year so maybe this next idea is something that should only be discussed at a later date. But again, as of September 25th, 2019, I am leaning against the idea of committing to him long-term if you're telling me he's going to command Tevin Coleman money - $4.25M/year (top 15 RB money).

I am incredibly brash, arrogant, and picky about RBs and what goes in to constructing an entire stable of backs. I'm not much less picky on RBs as I am over the QB position and CBs. I don't bend a lot on that position. I like what I like, I support what I support, and I am extremely confident in my ability to spot talent at that spot at a much better clip than most people I've come across on a football discussion level. At the same time, I'm not completely against giving a guy a healthy amount of $$$ if it's a special situation.

Understand that's part of what goes into my stance on not being the biggest advocate for Breida. Specifically Breida as a $4M/year back.

So, that leaves me to another question/proposition for people. As of September 25th, 2019, who sees themselves being an advocate for giving Breida $4M/year as it stands right now? If yes, how high are you willing to go? How many years? Or is there anyone out there thinking he'll be had for considerably less than that? Mostert gets $2.9M/year - primarily because when he signed that deal that's what top special teams players in the league were going for so it's a little different but I'm giving people an idea if you think I'm nuts thinking contract extension talks don't start somewhere around $4M/year.

Especially in this system, I'm opposed to giving any RB even Tevin Coleman money (which isn't a huge contract, but still top-20 in the league). I thought one of the areas we could save some money when we brought Shanahan in was at RB. Instead, we're paying out the nose for guys who aren't contributing.

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You don't want Breida on the field 50% of the game, I'm beginning to think you just want Tua.

As of September 25th, it's unavoidable that he'll be a main cog in the backfield and it's fine in certain respects if he's on the field for 50% of the snaps this year.

I still have concern that it's not incredibly smart to rely on him much more than that if you're worried about a 16 game schedule. Some of it is founded and some of it is pessimistic projection on my part. If I'm wrong about any part of him for this year, great. I have been before.

He'll be a RFA next year so maybe this next idea is something that should only be discussed at a later date. But again, as of September 25th, 2019, I am leaning against the idea of committing to him long-term if you're telling me he's going to command Tevin Coleman money - $4.25M/year (top 15 RB money).

I am incredibly brash, arrogant, and picky about RBs and what goes in to constructing an entire stable of backs. I'm not much less picky on RBs as I am over the QB position and CBs. I don't bend a lot on that position. I like what I like, I support what I support, and I am extremely confident in my ability to spot talent at that spot at a much better clip than most people I've come across on a football discussion level. At the same time, I'm not completely against giving a guy a healthy amount of $$$ if it's a special situation.

Understand that's part of what goes into my stance on not being the biggest advocate for Breida. Specifically Breida as a $4M/year back.

So, that leaves me to another question/proposition for people. As of September 25th, 2019, who sees themselves being an advocate for giving Breida $4M/year as it stands right now? If yes, how high are you willing to go? How many years? Or is there anyone out there thinking he'll be had for considerably less than that? Mostert gets $2.9M/year - primarily because when he signed that deal that's what top special teams players in the league were going for so it's a little different but I'm giving people an idea if you think I'm nuts thinking contract extension talks don't start somewhere around $4M/year.

Especially in this system, I'm opposed to giving any RB even Tevin Coleman money (which isn't a huge contract, but still top-20 in the league). I thought one of the areas we could save some money when we brought Shanahan in was at RB. Instead, we're paying out the nose for guys who aren't contributing.

To add figures to this:

Without Breida's tender, the team is projected to commit the 2nd most dollars in the league to the RB spot next year ($2,451,247 behind LAR). The 4th highest average per RB in the NFL (behind AZ, LAR, DAL). The 3rd highest percentage of their adjusted cap (LAR, NYJ).

Mostert's contract doesn't bother me as much as others so long as the ST value remains where it's been.

Obviously this is probably going to change quite a bit because they'll have to address the McKinnon situation and hard telling what they do with Breida.

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His release is one of the more desirable things about him, and often it's what saves his bacon, but I'll go a step further and relent from the constant criticism I levy his way all the time. The release on THIS throw is especially ridiculous.

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His release is one of the more desirable things about him, and often it's what saves his bacon, but I'll go a step further and relent from the constant criticism I levy his way all the time. The release on THIS throw is especially ridiculous.

His release is special, and if his accuracy and arm strength maintain, I think he can be a good QB in this league. If he can also improve his deep ball passing - and we saw a few glimpses of that in the preseason - I think he can be really good.

Interesting defense on that first play. I guess that's one of the failing of zone. You've got two guys covering air on the defensive left.

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49ers rookie Nick Bosa has unfinished business despite stellar start

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-rookie-nick-bosa-has-unfinished-business-despite-stellar-start

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Browns looked a lot better today, run defense better show up