Wisconsin Badgers 2017-18 Season Thread

[CJTURT]

In the last 2 years we lost like 8 starters. So what if we have a rebuilding year. My gosh were playing legit tournament teams down to the wire already. Let it pan out.

[midranger]

Are you talking about Marshall Henderson? He was 6 for 21.

He missed like his first dozen shots or something and then he scored 17 points in the last 10 or so minutes of a game that UW scored 47 total points. He was essentially the only guy scoring any buckets for either side down the stretch. We never once tried to get the ball out of his hands once he got hot. And we went down with the ship.

[HaroldinGMinor]

Are you talking about Marshall Henderson? He was 6 for 21.

He missed like his first dozen shots or something and then he scored 17 points in the last 10 or so minutes of a game that UW scored 47 total points. He was essentially the only guy scoring any buckets for either side down the stretch. We never once tried to get the ball out of his hands once he got hot. And we went down with the ship.

He was 1/13 and then went 5 for 8 (3 of 6 from three) and made 4 free throws. It was exacerbated because UW shot 25% for the game. UW shoots 35% and no one remembers his performance. Jacob Pullen is a probably a better example but UW beat KSU that year so no one really cares.

[El Duderino]

In the last 2 years we lost like 8 starters. So what if we have a rebuilding year. My gosh were playing legit tournament teams down to the wire already. Let it pan out.

Things would be a lot better if the Iverson, Pritzl, Illikainen, Thomas, and Van Vliet recruiting class was productive.

[Mags FTW]

In the last 2 years we lost like 8 starters. So what if we have a rebuilding year. My gosh were playing legit tournament teams down to the wire already. Let it pan out.

I’m fine with growing pains with guys like Davison and King, but if we’re going that route, we shouldn’t have to watch multiple juniors put up doughnuts. Get Reuvers out there.

[midranger]

Are you talking about Marshall Henderson? He was 6 for 21.

He missed like his first dozen shots or something and then he scored 17 points in the last 10 or so minutes of a game that UW scored 47 total points. He was essentially the only guy scoring any buckets for either side down the stretch. We never once tried to get the ball out of his hands once he got hot. And we went down with the ship.

He was 1/13 and then went 5 for 8 (3 of 6 from three) and made 4 free throws. It was exacerbated because UW shot 25% for the game. UW shoots 35% and no one remembers his performance. Jacob Pullen is a probably a better example but UW beat KSU that year so no one really cares.

Eh. Yes. He singlehandedly beat us in the last ten minutes of the game. Everybody knew he was their entire team. In a game that UW scores 47, you can't let the only guy in the other team that can score go for 17 points in the last 10 minutes without trying to get the ball out of his hands.

Pullen is a fine example. I remember that we'll, but like you said, we won. Curry. Whoever you want. Watching a quick lead guard light us up with zero chance of ever sending an early double to make him pass is a badger tradition.

[DingleJerry]

He missed like his first dozen shots or something and then he scored 17 points in the last 10 or so minutes of a game that UW scored 47 total points. He was essentially the only guy scoring any buckets for either side down the stretch. We never once tried to get the ball out of his hands once he got hot. And we went down with the ship.

He was 1/13 and then went 5 for 8 (3 of 6 from three) and made 4 free throws. It was exacerbated because UW shot 25% for the game. UW shoots 35% and no one remembers his performance. Jacob Pullen is a probably a better example but UW beat KSU that year so no one really cares.

Eh. Yes. He singlehandedly beat us in the last ten minutes of the game. Everybody knew he was their entire team. In a game that UW scores 47, you can't let the only guy in the other team that can score go for 17 points in the last 10 minutes without trying to get the ball out of his hands.

Pullen is a fine example. I remember that we'll, but like you said, we won. Curry. Whoever you want. Watching a quick lead guard light us up with zero chance of ever sending an early double to make him pass is a badger tradition.

And in this particular game, Trice just basically let himself get screened every time. Somehow Davison fights over the screens and is disruptive, he can too. Heck Davison almost saved him at the end by coming over to help and almost getting the steal.

King has to keep improving and take more and more of Iverson's minutes. Same with Ford getting more and more. And really I'd like to see Pritzl finally start hitting these wide open shots so he could get a bunch of Trice's minutes. I don't know how a kid can be that good of a shooter but miss like this in games. You'd think at some point he'd get comfortable and they'd start raining. Supposedly in practice he just doesn't miss. And if you watch him in pregame or halftime shooting, he doesn't miss.

[Kerb Hohl]

The overseas trip actually did serious damage to the team. For whatever reason, AVV and a bit of Pritzl/Trice looked way better than they are. Pritzl, Trice, and Iverson are all reasonable fringe starters/bench guys for a decent/good Badger team, but those 3 and AVV were thrust in and assumed to be the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th options.

Iverson is so frustrating because he still is good enough and makes enough plays that he should be one of the 5 starters. You just know that every play down the stretch he will find a way to **** up.

[DingleJerry]

Iverson has to learn to just make the layup instead of going for the dunk every time in traffic. you can usually get the shot off quicker and get it on the backboard without chance to be blocked. Sure they're great when he pulls them off but I'm not 8 yrs old so I don't really care how cool it looks, just get the 2 points.

[ReginaldDwight]

Just rewatched the game winner, not sure what Trice was doing in that situation some really poor defense by him.

[DingleJerry]

Just rewatched the game winner, not sure what Trice was doing in that situation some really poor defense by him.

It's common for him. He just lets himself get screened instead of fighting over. Tre Jackson did the same thing too. Davison does all he can to fight over them and get through, Trice just voluntary accepts the screen/switch. But yea on that play he's gotta leave the big guy at the end to stop the layup too

[ReginaldDwight]

Just rewatched the game winner, not sure what Trice was doing in that situation some really poor defense by him.

It's common for him. He just lets himself get screened instead of fighting over. Tre Jackson did the same thing too. Davison does all he can to fight over them and get through, Trice just voluntary accepts the screen/switch. But yea on that play he's gotta leave the big guy at the end to stop the layup too

Yeah shocking that they didnt swarm him on the drive no way hes gonna give that up. Hopefully things like that come with time for them.

[Brewhoopfan]

Just rewatched the game winner, not sure what Trice was doing in that situation some really poor defense by him.

It's common for him. He just lets himself get screened instead of fighting over. Tre Jackson did the same thing too. Davison does all he can to fight over them and get through, Trice just voluntary accepts the screen/switch. But yea on that play he's gotta leave the big guy at the end to stop the layup too

Yeah shocking that they didnt swarm him on the drive no way hes gonna give that up. Hopefully things like that come with time for them.

Unlike the team we all root for, the Badgers execute a defensive scheme. It's very likely everything that happened was exactly how they practice it except for Happ getting toasted. They have not been collapsing or providing much help in these situations for long time. Disagree with it, but it's how they've been coached to execute defensively.

[DingleJerry]

It's common for him. He just lets himself get screened instead of fighting over. Tre Jackson did the same thing too. Davison does all he can to fight over them and get through, Trice just voluntary accepts the screen/switch. But yea on that play he's gotta leave the big guy at the end to stop the layup too

Yeah shocking that they didnt swarm him on the drive no way hes gonna give that up. Hopefully things like that come with time for them.

Unlike the team we all root for, the Badgers execute a defensive scheme. It's very likely everything that happened was exactly how they practice it except for Happ getting toasted. They have not been collapsing or providing much help in these situations for long time. Disagree with it, but it's how they've been coached to execute defensively.

Very true. If the PG can't get through the screen, and Trice give no effort to do so, this is what they do. however, the normal is to have the big guy sag off and force the deep pullup 2, a very difficult shot for most CBB players. Sometimes you get burned though like the examples given, and I remember Stauskus at least once just lighting us up in that range. In this case Happ probably got a little too far overextended because the guy had been hitting jumpers down the stretch, guy seized it, boom layup.

[Kerb Hohl]

Really hard for someone in the heat of the play on help defense to know how much time is left, but Iverson could've come over and contested the shot. I could see why he didn't, because he was exposing the lane to his guy and to maybe Welsh (Happ's guy), but had he known how little time was on the clock, it would've been a worthwhile risk.

[jschligs]

I think Davison needs to be getting the start over Trice. Pritzl I can't understand, he just hasn't panned out.

[jschligs]

Have 2 Badger Basketball tickets for Friday 11/24 vs UW-Milwaukee. Section 321, Row F, Seats 7 and 8. $20 each and no parking. Any takers?

[ReginaldDwight]

It's common for him. He just lets himself get screened instead of fighting over. Tre Jackson did the same thing too. Davison does all he can to fight over them and get through, Trice just voluntary accepts the screen/switch. But yea on that play he's gotta leave the big guy at the end to stop the layup too

Yeah shocking that they didnt swarm him on the drive no way hes gonna give that up. Hopefully things like that come with time for them.

Unlike the team we all root for, the Badgers execute a defensive scheme. It's very likely everything that happened was exactly how they practice it except for Happ getting toasted. They have not been collapsing or providing much help in these situations for long time. Disagree with it, but it's how they've been coached to execute defensively.

Well yeah at minute 10 thats fine and dandy but in a situation when you are certain hes gonna take it all the way you gotta atleast bring two I think, but yeah time for trice to hit the pine to start and see what davison has.

[Johnlac1]

I think Davison needs to be getting the start over Trice. Pritzl I can't understand, he just hasn't panned out.

I think Pritzl can be a productive player....just probably not as starter. I would think King will be starting over him in very short order. A lot more athletic, a better all around scorer if not as quite as good a pure shooter.
But with a little more experience I think Pritzl will provide benefits. But off the bench.

[RiotPunch]

I think I'd go small with a Trice / Davison / King / Ford / Happ lineup.